domain Illegit.com

[wicked_gal00]

Don't think it's worth much, but thought I'd check.

 

[Larry]

Yes...it's just the interface of a reseller...not a scam.

 

[247newsnet]

Since this is the tread where an enom scam transaction occurred, I'm posting my questions for the owner of this forum. I also started a thread asking for an interview.

Here it is again,

Ron James owner of Name Pros Interview Request

Hello,

I'm the editor of 24 7 News Net.

I'm sitting at the computer of a person who works for AIS the parent company that owns 24 7 News and many other sites.

I was shown a thread on your site about a purchase that went on your site today. It was in this forum see ILLEGIT.com A purchase that resulted in the refund of the purchase price back to the main buying account for AIS. I have a copy of that refund here and there is all bogus info on it from one of your members.

I am concerned that the posting abilities of the person who was scammed have been disabled by your company.

Why did you disable the posting rights for domainnameappraisals ?

Right now your forum seems to have people supporting enom abilities that were exposed by domainnameappraisals as a scam.

Anyone wishing to support the way enom does business with limited access domain accounts where a buyer cannot renew on their login page, state why you think this is not a scam and I might quote you in an article I'm doing about this story.

Anyway, a request for a PUSH (a domain transfer I'm told) was requested in the PayPal receipt that I'm looking at in regards to the illegit.com transaction.

I have another email in my possession that lists an access.enom.com as the control access page.

I am told that is a very limited access page and the account was not PUSHED into the main AIS domain account at enom as the paypal instructions stated.

Is it the position of your forum to silence anyone that gets scammed on your site?

Do you think when a person says PUSH the account to my enom account and seller does not do it but sets up a limited access screen where things such as PUSHES and renewal are not permitted is not a scam?

Do you think a reseller of a domain name at enom should be able to limit the abilities of a buyer where they cannot PUSH or RENEW the domain name from their access page?

Do you think the enom policy of a 30 dollar registration fee when all the reseller registrars like godaddy, name cheap, register fly, etc have 8.99 or there about fees is ripe for having resellers SCAM domain buyers with such limited accounts where a domain buyer cannot transfer or push a domain name to a low fee account and they have to renew at the high rates some enom resellers push?

Is the handle you use at namepros.com coolhost?

What is your handle at namepros.com is it is not coolhost?

I suggest you allow domainnameappraisals to continue posting in your forum, it will make you look much better than you do now.

Thanks

Editor
24 7 News Net

 

[247newsnet]

Is it your position that when someone agrees to buy a domain name in a place like this provided it is PUSHED into an account and the seller does not PUSH but sets up a limited rights account is not a scam?

Do you think when every other reseller registrar (namecheap, registry fly, godaddy, etc) is only 8 dollars and change to register or new a domain, that a reseller trying to lock uneducated domain name buyers into a high renewal rate account is anything but a scam?

Originally posted by mr webname
THIS IS NOT A SCAM!

access.enom.com is a widely used method of changing ownership of a name registered with an enom reseller, it is not a regular "push" from one account to another but it is a legit method of changing ownership.
These names can be transferred to another registrar by simply requesting a transfer at the other registrar's control panel at your expense.
It may not be what you wanted but it is not a scam and the seller has dealt honourably in responding to your disatisfaction by refunding your money.

 

[NameCaster]

Don't you ever give up?
For the love of god let it go man.

There is no SCAM. The only SCAM here is YOU or anyone else claiming to work for AIS.

Your accusations are unfounded and should probably be reported to eNom.

Good Luck!

 

[247newsnet]

I am looking at the PayPal transaction, it says PUSH the name illegit.com to an specific enom account. That did not occur. Would you not agree that setting up a limited rights domain account when a push was requested is nothing but a scam?

Also, do you think a domain name buyer who is INFORMED that such limited rights reseller accounts result in high renewal costs, etc, would be something an INFORMED domain name buyer would agree to?

Is not the whole reseller business of enom based on ignoranance and therefore a scam?

When anyone can register or renew domain names at major icann approved registrars like godaddy, etc, why would anyone who is INFORMED pay extra fees for an enom account or be caught in an enom pyramid sceme?

enom is obviously praying on uninformed domain buyers and registrars, the people with low cost enom accounts are setting up the uninformed consumers. That's a scam in the opinion of most who hear about it and it borders on an illegal pyramid sceme.

Originally posted by Larry
Yes...it's just the interface of a reseller...not a scam.

 

[247newsnet]

I suggest you read some of the articles at 24 7 News. We often have audio files of the interview. I'm in Daytona right now for the 400 race as are many AIS employees.

I work for AIS and your remarks are false and ungrounded.

My article about the whole domain name registration SCAM will be on 24 7 and DNN domain news net.

People need to become aware of the scam that enom is running.

The SCAM is very simple, a reseller can lock out normal rights of a domain name buyer or register. So when a restricted account is used it has one purpose, to keep the domain name trapped in a high paying registration renewal scam.

Originally posted by NameCaster
Don't you ever give up?
For the love of god let it go man.

There is no SCAM. The only SCAM here is YOU or anyone else claiming to work for AIS.

Your accusations are unfounded and should probably be reported to eNom.

Good Luck!

 

[247newsnet]

I see the censorship at this forum has resulted in the removal of my interview request thread.

 

[Sohil]

Originally posted by 247newsnet
I see the censorship at this forum has resulted in the removal of my interview request thread.

your thread is in break room

 

[Jeff]

Originally posted by Sohil
your thread is in break room

Correct, Sohil.

Oh, Brother ... "fireworks" weren't supposed to happen for another week!
Thanks for staying cool, everybody.

 

[NameCaster]

Originally posted by 247newsnet
I see the censorship at this forum has resulted in the removal of my interview request thread.

As stated above your thread was moved to the break room.
http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=2204

I didn't leave a re-direct as I normally would have because you blatantly posted in the wrong thread.

NP is an open and uncensored domain community.

Thanks!

 

[mr webname]

Originally posted by 247newsnet
Is it your position that when someone agrees to buy a domain name in a place like this provided it is PUSHED into an account and the seller does not PUSH but sets up a limited rights account is not a scam?

Do you think when every other reseller registrar (namecheap, registry fly, godaddy, etc) is only 8 dollars and change to register or new a domain, that a reseller trying to lock uneducated domain name buyers into a high renewal rate account is anything but a scam?

Take some time out to research domain name registering and reselling - when you've done that come back, until then I suggest you stop making a fool of yourself.

 

[247newsnet]

Then why did this site disable the posting abilities of a domain name buyer that got scammed here?

Are you an owner?

What is your name for my article?

What is your age?

Thanks

Originally posted by NameCaster
As stated above your thread was moved to the break room.
http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=2204

I didn't leave a re-direct as I normally would have because you blatantly posted in the wrong thread.

NP is an open and uncensored domain community.

Thanks!

 

[247newsnet]

Actually, I've been writing about the Net and the various scams on them for many years.

If you look at enom from a casual users eye you will say it is a scam.

1. The going rate for domain registration is in the 8.95 range, not 30 dollars as enom promotes on it's front door.

2. A large percentage of bulk domain listers and sellers use enom to register domain names and INTENTIONALLY set up high renewal rate accounts for domains they sell.

3. Many UNINFORMED domain name buyers are being trapped in high renewal rate accounts, that is a SCAM and there will probably be a major investigation of eNom in the near future and their whole business model.

4. eNom resellers are using fraudulent business activities to sell domains all over the net, we've been monitoring eBay and their domain name section for some time. There are several domain name frauds going on there and they are all for the most part being done with eNom as the registrar.

Anyway, I am very informed as to the net, as to fraud and I often correspond with government agencies over internet fraud that I uncover as has happened several times at ebay.

Originally posted by mr webname
Take some time out to research domain name registering and reselling - when you've done that come back, until then I suggest you stop making a fool of yourself.

 

[247newsnet]

To anyone that stumbled into this thread today. These are the facts that you can follow.

1. This was an appraisal thread and an AIS employee made an offer on illegit.com (how appropriate and perfect for this story)

2. A transaction was made that made the buyer aware of a practice at enom that is obviously being used to trap domain name buyers into high renewal fee accounts.

3. The person that got scammed has had their posting rights disabled here.

4. The resellers replying in this thread and others are for the most part attacking AIS for questioning their business practices.

Anyway, if you think that selling domain names via a limited right enom account is a GOOD BUSINESS PRACTICE then you should look in the mirror and realize that what you are doing could be considered unethical and fraudulent.

Domain name registration is not a high ticket item, but there is a major gap in what anyone can register a domain for.

A mass exodus has occurred at NetSol, over their high fees. I have done many exposes on Netsol over the years due to one fact, the parent company of the old Netsol was SAIC in San Diego, a major CIA operation.

Anyone following the net knows the bulk of registration is being done by resellers.

A reseller has a clear choice as to how they will make money.

1. You register desirable domain names and sell them straight up for a profit.

2. You register in bulk and then sell the names using deceitful practices.

What is a deceitful practice?

Well that is up to the person looking at the whole domain reseller game.

Is charging a 15 buck transfer fee on ebay in a .01 or 1.00 auction ethical? Or is it a trap to defraud the buyer who doesn't read the fine print (I have many buyers at ebay that are mad that they had to pay 15.00 to transfer a domain name when the custom all over ebay is to only have charges for mailing goods etc).

So the whole transfer fee at ebay is considered by many domain buyers who are not resellers to be a scam, and we've been investigating it for some time.

Also, the fact that many resellers are using limited right accounts to trap domain buyers is something that we became aware of today. In this forum (filled with resellers) of course the position will be how dare we question what you are doing.

Well, it is being questioned. It is not a honest business practice when you have very high fees and not disclose them to buyers.

Anyway, the fact that this forum disabled the account of a person that was scammed since the seller did not PUSH a domain and tried to TRAP the domain in a high renewal account is the bottom line story here.

When a potential buyer of a domain name reads about the things some resellers are doing to try to earn a few more bucks on a domain registration/sale they will see it from the buyers point of view. Hey, I'm getting ripped off and who do I complain to.

While Caveat Emptor is often the cry of the Net, blatant over charging is considered by many government agencies to be a fraudulent business practice.

That's why you see all that small print now on auto ads and loan ads on TV.

You rip off consumers long enough and the government passes laws to protect the consumer.

 

[NameCaster]

Originally posted by 247newsnet
Then why did this site disable the posting abilities of a domain name buyer that got scammed here?

Are you an owner?

What is your name for my article?

What is your age?

Thanks

From what I read domainnameappraisals had no posting abilities to begin with.
He was banned for SPAMMING and his abuse of users. Let alone his outlandish accusations!

I am not the owner of NP.
My name: Dave Heitman
My age:40


Warning to all NP members
domainnameappraisals = idomainbrokers = 247newsnet = /CEO/MONEY/AIS

This guy has been booted from more boards than anyone I know.
He does not play well with others!

If you see him posting out of line feel free to report it to the mods!

Thanks

 

[247newsnet]

More false statements. I'm not domanameappraisls, an please post a link to spam they posted etc. Why don't you listen to the various interviews with audio files at 24 7 News Net, they prove there are many writers at our site.

The fact is you banned someone that got scammed.

When they made others aware of the scam you banned them.

So where is Ron James. I want to quote the owner of this forum in my article.

Originally posted by NameCaster
From what I read domainnameappraisals had no posting abilities to begin with.
He was banned for SPAMMING and his abuse of users. Let alone his outlandish accusations!

I am not the owner of NP.
My name: Dave Heitman
My age:40


Warning to all NP members
domainnameappraisals = idomainbrokers = 247newsnet = /CEO/MONEY/AIS

This guy has been booted from more boards than anyone I know.
He does not play well with others!

If you see him posting out of line feel free to report it to the mods!

Thanks

 

[NameTower]

lol this is just stupid

 

[NameTower]

ill pay you a dollar to shut up
just kidding, but really. this is just pathetic. Specially if you have names for millions of dollars :p

 

[RJ]

Originally posted by 247newsnet
Do you think when every other reseller registrar (namecheap, registry fly, godaddy, etc) is only 8 dollars and change to register or new a domain, that a reseller trying to lock uneducated domain name buyers into a high renewal rate account is anything but a scam?

Your uneducated finger is pointing the wrong way. I'd like to see you go to NameCheap or RegisterFly and push a name to your eNom account.

Those are both eNom resellers.

:p

 

[RajanUrs]

according to 247newsnet owner of NamePros is CoolHost = NameCaster = RJ

NameTower if you dont shut up next you are in line to become the owner :lol: