ICANN Fee - Total BS

[spikedo]

What is this?

"This mandatory fee is charged by ICANN (Internet Corporation For Assigned Names and Numbers: www.icann.org). and becomes effective on November 1, 2004. It is 25 cents per domain name registration year. Thus, the fee on a one year .com registration would be 25 cents. The fee would be 50 cents for a two year registration (i.e. 25 cents times 2). Additional years would be at 25 cents per year. ICANN fees apply to .com, .net, .org, .biz, .info, and .name."

When I regged a new domain at GD, I had to pay this fee. But not at EV1Servers. What's the deal?

 

[zdscn]

maybe the price EV1Servers offered you has already included ICANN fee.

 

[jdk]

If you notice that at GD their price is $8.70 + $0.25 ICANN FEE = $8.95 (their normal rate)

 

[dgridley]

I suspect other registrars include it as well (after all, it's a mandatory fee)... GD has just itemized it.

What is this?

"This mandatory fee is charged by ICANN (Internet Corporation For Assigned Names and Numbers: www.icann.org). and becomes effective on November 1, 2004. It is 25 cents per domain name registration year. Thus, the fee on a one year .com registration would be 25 cents. The fee would be 50 cents for a two year registration (i.e. 25 cents times 2). Additional years would be at 25 cents per year. ICANN fees apply to .com, .net, .org, .biz, .info, and .name."

When I regged a new domain at GD, I had to pay this fee. But not at EV1Servers. What's the deal?

 

[Qwert]

So we pay extra money for a really annoying coropration to harass us, send us spam or make the registerars send us spam, and steal our domain names?

 

[mole]

So we pay extra money for a really annoying coropration to harass us, send us spam or make the registerars send us spam, and steal our domain names?

Would you rather ICANN introduces 10 more new gTLDs to try to earn some extra revenue to shoulder their overheads, payrolls and trips to exotic venues for conferences? Verisign is backing out from financing them, so they need to find money elsewhere. *goes and checks eNom for any price increases*

 

[AdoptableDomains]

GD has just itemized the cost ot make a point. So far, it looks like all the others are just considering it regitrar overhead like they always have when the fee was more like five cents.

 

[armstrong]

I actually think ICANN's share should be several times higher. That will have the effect of:

- increasing funding for internet R&D, true DNS reforms and fair UDRP panels
- reducing outrageous regs like m-a-n-y-d-a-s-h-es.com
- increasing the cost for bulk domainers (like BuyDomains with a few hundred thousand?), which will ...
- increase the chance that small-time domainers, web developers, and business owners can find good, brandable domains, as surely many mid-value domains will drop and be available for reg.

Imagine what would happen if we can go back to $35 domains, with distribution as follows:
- $6 -> registry (like netsol) for maintaing the root DNS servers
- $6 -> registrar (like enom) for wholesale marketing and customer service
- $6 -> resellers (like you and me) for retail marketing and customer service
- $6 -> ICANN's entertainment budget :p
- $10 -> ICANN's real work
- $1 -> credit card transaction fees

... instead of the current setup where netsol gets about 60% of reg fees. If a retail reg is $10, then:
- $6 -> registry (like netsol) for maintaing the root DNS servers
- $0.25 -> registrar (like enom) for wholesale marketing and customer service
- $3 -> resellers (like you and me) for retail marketing and customer service
- $0.24 -> ICANN's entertainment budget :p
- $0.01 -> ICANN's real work
- $0.50 -> credit card transaction fees

I realize this may not be a popular position to take, and unlikely to happen. But this is just me playing what-if's with made-up numbers, so don't flame me!

 

[mole]

Imagine what would happen if we can go back to $35 domains, with distribution as follows:
- $6 -> registry (like netsol) for maintaing the root DNS servers
- $6 -> registrar (like enom) for wholesale marketing and customer service
- $6 -> resellers (like you and me) for retail marketing and customer service
- $6 -> ICANN's entertainment budget :p
- $10 -> ICANN's real work
- $1 -> credit card transaction fees

LOL, let me know before that happens, strong. I will have to renew all my domains to 2014 first.

 

[sharapov]

They are becoming more and more greedy.

 

[theparrot]

So we pay extra money for a really annoying coropration to harass us, send us spam or make the registerars send us spam, and steal our domain names?

Sounds a lot like taxes to me. We often pay them to a really annoying entity to harass us.

GD has just itemized the cost ot make a point. So far, it looks like all the others are just considering it regitrar overhead like they always have when the fee was more like five cents.

I am going to continue to compare this to taxes. I think itimizing them to make a point it a great idea. Some cities have made it illegal for the cable company to do so, and thus the customers blame the cable companies for what are really tax increates. The most profit on a glass of beer in the USA is made by the government rather then the producers. Taxes are an amazing % of gas, and tires etc.... if we ever got an itemized tax bill we would be amazed.

I actually think ICANN's share should be several times higher. That will have the effect of:

- increasing funding for internet R&D, true DNS reforms and fair UDRP panels
- reducing outrageous regs like m-a-n-y-d-a-s-h-es.com
- increasing the cost for bulk domainers (like BuyDomains with a few hundred thousand?), which will ...
- increase the chance that small-time domainers, web developers, and business owners can find good, brandable domains, as surely many mid-value domains will drop and be available for reg.

ICANN does not do R&D, don't confuse them with IETF.

UDRP panels respond to who pays mostly, and that is the complataint, they pick the place to use so until we get a way to file for preemtive judgements that will not change.

 

[WuLabsWuTecH]

they have costs to pay as well and they work hard and shold deserve it, it's 20 more cents and most companies have just taken it into their over head and the increase is not passed fully onto you

 

[theparrot]

they have costs to pay as well and they work hard and shold deserve it, it's 20 more cents and most companies have just taken it into their over head and the increase is not passed fully onto you

they have mostly fixed not variable costs, and they want to grow and expand their role. They should move to a user fees not a variable costs structure. This is really the start of a slippery slope. It will be much more the .20 in 5 years if the .20 is easily accepted.

 

[EbookLover]

If you notice that at GD their price is $8.70 + $0.25 ICANN FEE = $8.95 (their normal rate)

No it's not. Godaddy's regular price is 8.95. The ICANN fee is an additional 25 cents on top making it $9.20 total.

It specifiacally shows on the domain price table...

.com* 8.95

and below the table...

* Plus ICANN fee of 25 cents per domain name year. Certain TLD's only.

Yes I agree, the ICANN fee is stupid. I bet you if they were asked why they charge the fee, they're only answer is, "because ICANN".

But never mind why other charge or do not charge. GD is a discounter and plays discounters games. In otherwords, they strip the price down to it's bare essentials and then use a bunch of "*" to up the price.

Other places simply just include it all together. they have to pay ICANN so it does not matter if they tell you about it or not. GD chooses to charge it separately so as to make their domain price look like it is under $9.00. Don't let em kid you, their regular price is $9.20.

It's like shipping charges. One merchant will rise the price and take away the shipping charge, others do the opposite. They pad the shipping charge and lower the price. In the end, you still pay the same amount.

 

[Dave_Z]

Love 'em or hate 'em, they're there. *shrugs*

There'll always be people who'll see it as "being greedy". But any organization
does need some other way to "earn" to cover their operating expenses.

It's just that ICANN has so far fallen short of many people's expectations.

 

[armstrong]

I see ICANN as being too beholden ATM to moneyed interests like netsol. So giving them a bigger budget might actually give them more balls to do the right thing.

 

[octobus]

You're crying out loud for ICANN's 25c fee while verisign takes $6?

Come on guys, be reasonable

 

[armstrong]

You're crying out loud for ICANN's 25c fee while netsol takes $6?

Come on guys, be reasonable

Agree wholeheartedly! Maybe when it becomes a round $1, netsol won't find it as easy to use their $6 to buy influence within ICANN.

 

[Mark]

You're crying out loud for ICANN's 25c fee while netsol takes $6?

Come on guys, be reasonable

:bingo:

I Think of it this way ... The Internet is one big Forum in which I am just a member ... ICANN is the Mod(s) .... They're worth it :tu:

 

[theparrot]

Why not lower verisigns take? Given that registraries are able to offer customer support and such at wholesale for just .50 or so over the base fees, it seems verisigns should still make a fortune at $2. Instead of saying it is small comared to the $6 fee, why not say they are both large compared to the margins left in the competive parts of the industry that probably show where the real prices should be.