domain iBusinessLoans.com

[growthhacker]

It's one of the many major industry keywords i prefixes we own and we're about to shop it to ceo's of the top banks.

we had for years and have no development projects for it that fit our fractionization biz model and we have zero interest in adsense garbage

so for a biz loan company or a major bank that wants business loans, it's a major keyword for them to develop

so it's on my list of assets to start shaking potential end users for

we got it years ago for one reason it's a mega billion buck industry and some of the wealthiest companies in the world are potential end users

so that's why we got it years ago

we did basically minor development on it, but there's no good small market niche of loan brokers with enough dough to hire sem/seo/smm/ppc gurus

so it's gonna be a dump now

shop it to big end users

if nothing

dump on sedo or something

 

[cocaseco]

Seems a bit long to me and when I think "i" something, its around a product. Mid $xxx imo.

 

[growthhacker]

its value is to banks that spend a fortune to find BUSINESS LOANS the reason they are preferred accounts with all major banks

so cpc costs are high and this keyword com can control ppc for any bank

so it's a great domain IMO as to having a targeted url that nets banks what they want

business accounts

loans are not the main thing big banks want to target

business loans are the money makers, if a bank lands a new business account by giving a biz loan out

that is a preferred banking customer

but THANKS for your opinion

just look at how sold out the term is in ppc

so that's the value in our opinion

but THANKS for your input

I think you're way low, but we'll see how this community reacts to a major bank term that every bank targets with ppc, seo, sem, smm and every media there is

BUSINESS LOANS it's long but it is the money term in banking

 

[svede]

its value is to banks that spend a fortune to find BUSINESS LOANS the reason they are preferred accounts with all major banks

so cpc costs are high and this keyword com can control ppc for any bank

so it's a great domain IMO as to having a targeted url that nets banks what they want

business accounts

loans are not the main thing big banks want to target

business loans are the money makers, if a bank lands a new business account by giving a biz loan out

that is a preferred banking customer

but THANKS for your opinion

just look at how sold out the term is in ppc

so that's the value in our opinion

but THANKS for your input

I think you're way low, but we'll see how this community reacts to a major bank term that every bank targets with ppc, seo, sem, smm and every media there is

BUSINESS LOANS it's long but it is the money term in banking

I think what you are missing is that with the "i" it is no longer a pure keyword domain, but more of a brandable keyword mashup. That doesn't mean there isn't value, but it's purpose will be more for development. I have bought some "i" or "e" + "business" + keyword domains - but I don't expect them to sell for tons in the open market. I am a developer than can use the half decent domains for developing a site. The biggest thing you have going for you is the strong sector that business loans are in, as you mentioned, but that isn't generally enough to make it go as high as it sounds like you want.

I'd put it at mid $xx - to low $xxx reseller and mid $xxx to very low $x,xxx for enduser. But finding an enduser that wants to pay on the upper half of that could take some time, effort, and patience.

Hope that helps!

 

[growthhacker]

SE's consider the i prefix pretty much the same value as the keyword no prefix now so they do pop SE's

I've spoken to some business loan execs in major banks on a local level over the years about it to see their reaction and all were like wow, that's a great asset, wish our bank had something like that to target with.

So our strategy is talk to lots of the top banks and see if any want to make blind bids in a blind bid offer.

THANKS for the x,xxxx end user value though, I'm sure not many domains here get that often

End users do pay a lot to target this keyword in their marketing and when you use a power i prefix like this it takes over top of any ppc rotation as soon as you put a budget on these type of keywords.

Example in our core industry iProfessionalterm.com/net get top of ppc rotation IMMEDIATELY and at lower rates than Smith and Jones LLC or PA or whatever

So our experience in using such prefixes gives us the knowledge that SE's love them in ppc

They used to all love them in seo too, but now EMD's with a prefix are not big in seo unless you put portal development on the asset.

ppc action, it's a game changer, any bank can take top spots with it as we have done over and over with i prefixes in many professional terms

BUT THANKS

nice to see an end user value x,xxx

 

[cocaseco]

nice to see an end user value x,xxx

He actually said "very low $xxxx", and I would agree.

 

[svede]

He actually said "very low $xxxx", and I would agree.

Yes and that is the high end of my quote.... not easy to get there IMHO.

Also, I disagree that "i" + keyword is the same exact thing as "keyword" to search engines. While they do see the keywords "business loans", the domain still has the "i". Sure, the most important thing these days is site content, not the url - but that could be said about a lot of domains of low value with "businessloans" as part of the domain.. However, the biggest area this impacts is type-in/organic traffic. Not a lot of people are going to type it in with the "i" - unless you brand it and market it.

Hope that helps!

 

[growthhacker]

no one does type in today, that's 1995 era

SE's look at the url in their QS scores, it's why I get 10 QS on my i's and regular keywords

I own keywords that buy tons of ppc for clients and my i's get the same 10QS, my full time career is managing ppc for clients on keywords I own and keywords are legit keywords .com/net or a few of mine are i prefix, mostly I just use the keywords .com/net I own.

so unlike most here, I USE i's to BUY PPC for clients everyday, and I know how SE's look at them, the i isn't even there for QS scores to start a campaign

I have used both keywords I own and urls of clients names or brands over the years, and years ago I did use clients urls, no more, a client comes to me with their brand and or whatever url they own I laugh, I say hire an in house guy, it has NO USE or VALUE to the QS algorithm, the only thing it wants are keywords.com/net or a few prefixes and i is the top prefix, so get with the program use my keywords .com/net or my i prefix keywords .com net or hire an in house ppc nobody that has no clue how to get a 10qs

So keep guessing I DO THIS FOR A LIVING, I own major keywords .com and .net and I have clients on them buying ppc for one reason, my keywords dominate ppc like they did seo years ago

Example a big law firm is say smith and jones pa they own smith jones .com

They want me to manage their ppc, the first thing they learn from me is that their url has NO VALUE in ppc, zero nada zilch.

I say use it, hire a local yokel ppc guru and when I enter your market with another firm on my asset I take over the top of ppc way cheaper than you an with your smith and jones bs

So in REAL LIFE I see every day how I enter a market with a keyword and take it over, if my keyword is an i prefix or another prefix we use all the time, same results, instant 10 QS

now IF you were a ppc guru you would know I'm saying the facts of life, initial QS 10 scores come one way to a company that owns a keyword .com/net or they own a prefix like i keyword

now IF some here are clueless about ppc and what a 10QS means let me educate you

it means instant top spot of ppc rotation
it means huge discounts for that spot

it means YOU CONTROL PPC INSTANTLY

anyway THANK YOU SO MUCH for your OPINION

keywords .com/net
i, e and 1 prefix keywords .com/net

all MONEY

period

say what you THINK I just say WHAT I KNOW

but THANK YOU so much for your OPINION

 

[London555]

Don't let the "I" bother you too much Apple paid $4 million for iCloud.com The right investment bank will pay a big number for this name. Best of luck to you.

 

[growthhacker]

exactly

the big A ponied up 5M I thought for a lousy i

ipad
ipod
itunes
iphone

you know in the 1990's in such forums I used to argue with guys over prefixes

everyone was on the e thing

it was hard to find a good e even back then

anyway we grabbed a ton of industry keywords i

everyone trashed them

we said

it takes one big company to brand an i as the natural prefix for the net and i is it

it is Internet not Enternet

haha

sure enough year later Jobs launches iMac when he came home to Big A

still many 'expert domainers' were clueless

now you have SE's all saying i prefix, ignore in QS score when you start a campaign

no one here but me has ever started a campaign at 10QS, if they did, they know what I say is facts

the only way to 10qs is keyword .com/net

now do the same gurus know ikeyword .com/net gets that coveted 10 QS too

I doubt it

99.9% of people do not manage ppc accounts for a living, I do

keywords .com/net and ikeywords.com/net are all that matters

it gives you entree to the top spots in ppc INSTANTLY

then content converts and you can charge clients all day 25% of their budgets to do one thing, well two

grab top ppc spot and then convert at a high ratio

if you can do that, well YOU WOULD BE ME

and as GS says

It's so good to be ME

hehe

 

[svede]

no one does type in today, that's 1995 era

SE's look at the url in their QS scores, it's why I get 10 QS on my i's and regular keywords

I own keywords that buy tons of ppc for clients and my i's get the same 10QS, my full time career is managing ppc for clients on keywords I own and keywords are legit keywords .com/net or a few of mine are i prefix, mostly I just use the keywords .com/net I own.

so unlike most here, I USE i's to BUY PPC for clients everyday, and I know how SE's look at them, the i isn't even there for QS scores to start a campaign

I have used both keywords I own and urls of clients names or brands over the years, and years ago I did use clients urls, no more, a client comes to me with their brand and or whatever url they own I laugh, I say hire an in house guy, it has NO USE or VALUE to the QS algorithm, the only thing it wants are keywords.com/net or a few prefixes and i is the top prefix, so get with the program use my keywords .com/net or my i prefix keywords .com net or hire an in house ppc nobody that has no clue how to get a 10qs

So keep guessing I DO THIS FOR A LIVING, I own major keywords .com and .net and I have clients on them buying ppc for one reason, my keywords dominate ppc like they did seo years ago

Example a big law firm is say smith and jones pa they own smith jones .com

They want me to manage their ppc, the first thing they learn from me is that their url has NO VALUE in ppc, zero nada zilch.

I say use it, hire a local yokel ppc guru and when I enter your market with another firm on my asset I take over the top of ppc way cheaper than you an with your smith and jones bs

So in REAL LIFE I see every day how I enter a market with a keyword and take it over, if my keyword is an i prefix or another prefix we use all the time, same results, instant 10 QS

now IF you were a ppc guru you would know I'm saying the facts of life, initial QS 10 scores come one way to a company that owns a keyword .com/net or they own a prefix like i keyword

now IF some here are clueless about ppc and what a 10QS means let me educate you

it means instant top spot of ppc rotation
it means huge discounts for that spot

it means YOU CONTROL PPC INSTANTLY

anyway THANK YOU SO MUCH for your OPINION

keywords .com/net
i, e and 1 prefix keywords .com/net

all MONEY

period

say what you THINK I just say WHAT I KNOW

but THANK YOU so much for your OPINION

Since you know everything already, why do you come here for an appraisal? And some of what you say suggests to me that you don't really do this for a living and are a newbie. I've been doing domains for 11+ years and web development (including keywords, seo, etc) for about 15. If you think people don't still type keywords in, then you seriously do not know the industry. While it isn't as much as it was in the past, it still happens and produces a lot of organic traffic. I even have a dot org (never developed, just good keywords) that gets strong type in traffic and makes me good ad $$... Also, if you reread what I said, I am not against the "i" and "e" prefix - I buy quite a bit of them. But they change it into a brandable from a pure keyword domain. iCloud is not a pure keyword domain - it is a keyword rooted brandable domain. Also, single dictionary premium keywords with "i" in front of them are worth a lot more than 2 keywords with "i" in front as they are far more brandable. iLoans.com, for example, would be worth a LOT more. But you already think you know everything so I don't even know why I try to help you and share my experience and knowledge.

 

[London555]

Since you know everything already, why do you come here for an appraisal? And some of what you say suggests to me that you don't really do this for a living and are a newbie. I've been doing domains for 11+ years and web development (including keywords, seo, etc) for about 15. If you think people don't still type keywords in, then you seriously do not know the industry. While it isn't as much as it was in the past, it still happens and produces a lot of organic traffic. I even have a dot org (never developed, just good keywords) that gets strong type in traffic and makes me good ad $$... Also, if you reread what I said, I am not against the "i" and "e" prefix - I buy quite a bit of them. But they change it into a brandable from a pure keyword domain. iCloud is not a pure keyword domain - it is a keyword rooted brandable domain. Also, single dictionary premium keywords with "i" in front of them are worth a lot more than 2 keywords with "i" in front as they are far more brandable. iLoans.com, for example, would be worth a LOT more. But you already think you know everything so I don't even know why I try to help you and share my experience and knowledge.

Who cares if iCloud is a keyword or "brandable"-Apple paid $4 MILLION for it-plus why so nasty to this guy? I'm pretty sure it's always you that seem to be saying how many many years you've been doing this so who is it that thinks they know everything? Ease up.

 

[svede]

Who cares if iCloud is a keyword or not-Apple paid $4 MILLION for it-plus why so nasty to this guy?

Yes, and I see a lot more value in that domain. The domain he asked about doesn't even compare. Also, I am not being so nasty - if he wants an appraisal, he needs to treat others with respect and not trample over them with baseless responses that he knows better and we don't. What is the point of giving an appraisal if people don't want to hear it and already have decided the value in their head? I don't always agree with appraisals people give me, but I reason politely with them and don't bash their appraisals on the basis of me "knowing better"...

 

[growthhacker]

dude people are clueless still about the net 90% don't know where the url box is on a browser

that's a fact

I see it all the time

I tell people open our browser

they do

I say type in keyword.com I own it

90% of the dummies use the search box not the url box

typeins are dead

1995 99% of the net was smart people computer literate

today the net is mass consumption and the world is filled with idiots

unlike most here, I've been doing the net for 20 years

so you see no value in i domains

that means you have never used one in ppc management

period
end of subject

web design
yawn

no the net domaining
yawn

what do you own dude

this asset is worth a small fortune, that's my OPINION

businessloans.com to a major bank, you give me 5 players in a blind bid I get 5M to 10M easy for that domains if it had no development

why? it's the money maker for all big banks, it leads to business accounts and anyone in banking will tell you they WANT BUSINESS ACCOUNTS over some employee all day long

so banking major desired end user business customer how do they find them new BUSINESS LOANS

now in real life an i prefix is 33% of the keyword .com

so 30% of 5M to 10M is the appraisal I WOULD GIVE but I'm here asking people what do they think

anyway I APPRECIATE the OPINIONS and maybe a few here not set in their words say

iPhone
iTunes
iCloud
iPad
iPod
iLoans
iBill

and they realize all their domains have little value, they missed the boat, they should of been chasing i industry keywords all these years

haha

guess what these types of assets drop every day

so now go get some

join the I parade

cha ching

 

[svede]

dude people are clueless still about the net 90% don't know where the url box is on a browser

that's a fact

I see it all the time

I tell people open our browser

they do

I say type in keyword.com I own it

90% of the dummies use the search box not the url box

typeins are dead

1995 99% of the net was smart people computer literate

today the net is mass consumption and the world is filled with idiots

unlike most here, I've been doing the net for 20 years

so you see no value in i domains

that means you have never used one in ppc management

period
end of subject

web design
yawn

no the net domaining
yawn

what do you own dude

this asset is worth a small fortune, that's my OPINION

businessloans.com to a major bank, you give me 5 players in a blind bid I get 5M to 10M easy for that domains if it had no development

why? it's the money maker for all big banks, it leads to business accounts and anyone in banking will tell you they WANT BUSINESS ACCOUNTS over some employee all day long

so banking major desired end user business customer how do they find them new BUSINESS LOANS

now in real life an i prefix is 33% of the keyword .com

so 30% of 5M to 10M is the appraisal I WOULD GIVE but I'm here asking people what do they think

anyway I APPRECIATE the OPINIONS and maybe a few here not set in their words say

iPhone
iTunes
iCloud
iPad
iPod
iLoans
iBill

and they realize all their domains have little value, they missed the boat, they should of been chasing i industry keywords all these years

haha

guess what these types of assets drop every day

so now go get some

join the I parade

cha ching

dude, you need to stop stroking your ego and start reading what I wrote.

You just said "so you see no value in i domains" after I appraised your "i" domain with value and MULTIPLE times told you that I like them.... seriously... and honestly you read a book and think you know SEO, but your comments are quite laughable and show that you are new...

 

[growthhacker]

actually I've been laughing as I thank every here for their OPINION

you know as for OPINIONS

you want to compare something real

how much you got as to your EXPERT RANK on KLOUT on domains?

you think yours is higher than mine?

how about this domains is so unimportant in the world klout won't even give it a category

haha

now SEO top .1% expert ranking
internet top .1% expert ranking
advertising top .1% expert ranking

if they had a category for domains I would easily be top .1% expert ranking

but hey domains have ZERO klout

haha

domainers no such category at KLOUT

now real words to real people are

business
seo
sem
growth hacking
growth hacker
ppc
adwords
google
internet

I got top .1% expert ranking in pretty much every one of these categories

I thought I'd educate some here that need to be educated, I want opinions and yep I will give my two cents and explain why I think the asset is huge

I guess a few here think they can slap domain owners all day with I know this bs

I know more period

my klout expert rankings PROVE IT

go game klout, you can't

so yeah I got the proverbial mine is bigger than you in this debate

IT IS THAT BIG

haha

 

[growthhacker]

actual I wrote one of the first books on domains and seo in the mid 1990's

in my book I called what became SEO by the acronym SEM

search engine manipulation

I was probably the first SEO guru mentioned in major media the WP did it in 1997

washington post

so WHO AM I

haha

it's why I own iBusinessLoans.com and you don't

 

[svede]

actually I've been laughing as I thank every here for their OPINION

you know as for OPINIONS

you want to compare something real

how much you got as to your EXPERT RANK on KLOUT on domains?

you think yours is higher than mine?

how about this domains is so unimportant in the world klout won't even give it a category

haha

now SEO top .1% expert ranking
internet top .1% expert ranking
advertising top .1% expert ranking

if they had a category for domains I would easily be top .1% expert ranking

but hey domains have ZERO klout

haha

domainers no such category at KLOUT

now real words to real people are

business
seo
sem
growth hacking
growth hacker
ppc
adwords
google
internet

I got top .1% expert ranking in pretty much every one of these categories

I thought I'd educate some here that need to be educated, I want opinions and yep I will give my two cents and explain why I think the asset is huge

I guess a few here think they can slap domain owners all day with I know this bs

I know more period

my klout expert rankings PROVE IT

go game klout, you can't

so yeah I got the proverbial mine is bigger than you in this debate

IT IS THAT BIG

haha

whatever, I am done with this discussion. You obviously are still trying to convince yourself that you are everything you think you are so keep ranting on about how amazing you are with evidence that you are clueless. I am content with knowing my own success and don't need to prove it to some newbie. I came here to provide an appraisal on your domain, not be baited for stroking your ego. Have a great day.

 

[London555]

Yes, and I see a lot more value in that domain. The domain he asked about doesn't even compare. Also, I am not being so nasty - if he wants an appraisal, he needs to treat others with respect and not trample over them with baseless responses that he knows better and we don't. What is the point of giving an appraisal if people don't want to hear it and already have decided the value in their head? I don't always agree with appraisals people give me, but I reason politely with them and don't bash their appraisals on the basis of me "knowing better"...

iBusinessLoans.com is a SERIOUS and exceptionally valuable name to the right financial firm.

 

[London555]

Svede why would you possibly "dislike" my above comment? You might disagree but "dislike"? You let ego get in your way I can see. Have a nice evening.