discuss I said I wasn't going to do it but I just bought my first .app domain

[MapleDots]

I have always stuck to .ca and .com domains and have shied away from almost all other extensions.

With some of the big boys touting the possibility off .app making it I still said I would not do it.

Well guess what?

I found one off my domains suits itself incredibly well to the .app extension that I actually went ahead and registered it.

Photogr.app

It matches my photograpp.com domain

So tell me what you think

Would you have registered www.photogr.app ?​

 

[MapleDots]

Hope this helps:
photograpp d0t com reseller $120 end-user $4500
Photogr d0t app reseller $7 - $20 end-user $35
You, see your .com is somewhat decent the app is not good at all, I'd never buy that app for even $0.99

As I said, I do not normally buy .app extensions, but in this case the ownership of the .app brings more value to the .com and as a pair they compliment each other.

 

[JayT]

Get your $ back

 

[Daniel Owens]

I would not have

 

[Corey]

The. APP extension is a secure namespace, so you need HTTPS and an SSL certificate for your website to load on most browsers.

BTW congrats on your .app name

Cheers
Corey

 

[Bob Hawkes]

I like your idea of owning both a match in app and com when the combination makes sense, like here.

I am sure you noticed this, but pic in .app was on NameBio today ($594).

https://namebio.com/pic.app

 

[Bob Hawkes]

Not speaking of any particular cases but drawing only on general observations, having an open-minded scepticism has proven indispensible to the scientific community throughout its history.

I agree with maintaining an open-mind and always looking at evidence to evaluate validity of any proposition. Critical thinking looks at the balance of evidence, it does not mean simply mistrusting some set of things without any hint of evidence.

I would not object to making the general statement in some thread that was not tied to any particular sale that we should always be alert to the possibility of some sales being misrepresented. But to make the statement specifically linking it to one sale (as was done drawing attention to exactly this name), particularly with no suggestion of any supporting evidence, is inappropriate, in my opinion. I would argue this is also highly unfair to the seller and the buyer of this domain name (neither of which I know.)

Before I first responded I looked at what I considered the balance of evidence - i.e. the numbered points in my response. Was it a validated sale? (yes, NameBio require this) Was it in the range of other .app sales (yes, highest by not by much). Was it a high value word? (not a lot of sales in NB but a hugely widely used and versatile word). Would someone REALLY desire it? (yes I found a company that it would clearly be worth way more than this in about 10 minutes of Google digging). I could go on, but to me the balance of evidence clearly favours it. Critical thinking means being open minded and looking at evidence. Not simply mistrusting everything.

 

[MapleDots]

It is a sale of king not kink I think?

HeHe

Too fast on the keyboard..... of course king

 

[urlurl]

its a shorten-er and an added bonus to the new owner when they buy the .com

i did the same with one of my names too: r e f e r c l u b . com + r e f e r . c l u b

actually, its the only reason i would buy a new extension

 

[Bob Hawkes]

Too often on this list I see things like this:

Off topic but due to a mention of dispatch.app ......all I will say just because a name is sold for x amount of dollars and reported dosnt mean it really sold for x amount of dollars

Unless there is some evidence supported reason to say that, I think we all do the domain community a disservice by sowing doubt and scepticism with statements like the above.

I have no knowledge of this specific case but would point out:

• It was reported on NameBio, a database I trust, who require documentation for sales outside the usual venues.
• Yes, a high value .app sale, but only slightly above the sale of host which went for just under $14k in July and bot sold in August for $10k.
• I have no idea if they are the buyer, but there is a company with exactly that name who use mobile as part of their product solution for matching trades people and jobs, so I don't find it at all unbelievable that it would sell for this price. In my opinion it is doubtless worth more than $15k to them.
• The generic nature of the word means there are many other potential purchasers ranging from delivery, financial, music, etc. More than 190 million Google search results on the word.
• The sale came from someone who clearly holds a premium portfolio of .app domain names. The name itself was premium from Google sold in EAP.

I realize this thread is not a place for such a discussion, but I did not wish the statement to go unchallenged. The success of domain investing depends on positive public perceptions. Yes, by all means we should call out cases where there is evidence. But giving vague statements that maybe it did not really sell for that does no good and much harm.

 

[MapleDots]

Actually, a few months ago (and in connection with another high value sale) you contemplated a possibility for the following scenario:

Agreed and there is some of that going on, I have my suspicions about a couple of sales specifically but from my own experience NameBio asks for all the supporting paperwork so I would say the vast majority of sales reported there are legit.

However.....

There are a few bad apples for sure, you can bet bottom dollar on that. The only thing is we cannot lump all of the legitimate sales into the same category.

 

[xynames]

I suppose if you think that photograpp dot com is good then you’d also like photogr dot app.

I am not saying one way or another.

But you should just be aware of why you’ve done what you’ve done.

 

[MapleDots]

Just found out something interesting....

.app & .dev domains require https to display in chrome without an error.

Nothing you can do unless you add an https certificate (which I can do, I own a wild card domain) but it is interesting that it displays properly in internet explorer but the owner of the extensions (google) decided they cannot display in chrome without https.

I just loaded my certificate and it should activate soon but this would be a big NAY for me if I ever considered buying more of them.

 

[webhostuk]

Its for all domain TLD's in Chrome browse https URL is necessary now a days.

 

[MapleDots]

I like your idea of owning both a match in app and com when the combination makes sense, like here.

I am sure you noticed this, but pic in .app was on NameBio today ($594).

https://namebio.com/pic.app

Thank you for that but .app seems to be selling quite low compared to the .online extension.

Did you see kink.online below???? WOW $17,250

 

[Bob Hawkes]

Did you see kink.online below???? WOW $17,250

It is a sale of king not kink I think? (although that is probably high value too )

Unfortunately these were added to NameBio database just after I did my last monthly ngTLD sales report or it would have taken second place. Quite often that helps, especially with .top sales and radix registry sales that are periodically reported.

But there have been .app sales in that range too, such as yesterday's dispatch sale at $15,000 and the host sale for over $13,000 in July. I think .app are still finding values since the record is sparse so far. If you scale .app by how large the pool is and how long it has been in resale, it is actually doing well, both in sales volume and average price.

Bob

 

[BaileyUK]

I don't ever do the 'Protection' registrations these days. I did in the past, around 2000/5 but they never were even remotely wanted by the .com buyers (and I've dealt with a lot)
Besides once you start down that road it becomes never ending. It makes even less sense if it's for your own development
photograpp dot app anyone

 

[BaileyUK]

Agreed there, and I generally refrain from that as well but this one just made sense because it actually had app in the name.

Probably my first and only .app registration

I'm going to disagree with you on that, Your second word is Grapp. It bares no resemblance to .App. It's a mind thingy, that identifies the association. been there and done that many times in the past. And of course you've now got the domain PHOTOGR.

honestly if you'd seen some of my early domains that incorporated the .COM as word ending registrations from the past, you'll kill yourself laughing.

one mistake and registration is of course, forgivable

 

[MapleDots]

I have a major website on .club including a forum and it loads fine http on Chrome browser no need for SSL. I just haven't gotten around to putting this site on my server which offers free https yet.

.app and .dev is owned by google and they will not load on chrome without an ssl certificate.

Other site like a .club will load with an insecure warning in front of the url but the .app and .dev will not load, instead you get a huge....

The only reason mine loads now is because I added ssl

 

[Darren C]

Off topic but due to a mention of dispatch.app ......all I will say just because a name is sold for x amount of dollars and reported dosnt mean it really sold for x amount of dollars

 

[MapleDots]

Got a few on Namebios myself and they require a lot of documentation to get listed.

I'm with @MetBob on this one

 

[Darren C]

There’s a difference between an opinion and an accusation .....everyone has a right to an opinion and I voiced mine....I did some research on which I base my opinion,wether I’m right or wrong it’s an opinion nothing more nothin less

 

[briguy]

So tell me what you think

Would you have registered www.photogr.app ?​

To answer the question, personally I would not have registered a (dot)app, because basically not my forte (new extensions that is) and I sure don't know how to get past these hurdles with that extension

https://domainnamewire.com/2018/05/10/heres-why-its-going-to-be-hard-to-sell-your-app-domain-names/
(assuming still up-to-date information)

But If I had a popular "app" on Google/Amazon/Apple, I do my best to to acquire the app extension!

Also I do understand the logic of registering your domain in another extension (less loss of search engine traffic, add value to a sale, can be a redirect to your main domain).

Now, my question is..I can see the logic in the first keyword (photo) but why the secondary keyword "grapp" (compared to grip/group/etc)
https://www.google.ca/search?rlz=1C.......0...1.1.64.psy-ab..0.0.0....0.tAF4tXysQiM

https://www.google.ca/search?rlz=1C.......0...1.1.64.psy-ab..0.0.0....0.pKmm0lBCTow

Branding? Future development?

 

[MapleDots]

I'm going to disagree with you on that, Your second word is Grapp. It bares no resemblance to .App. It's a mind thingy, that identifies the association. been there and done that many times in the past. And of course you've now got the domain PHOTOGR.

honestly if you'd seen some of my early domains that incorporated the .COM as word ending registrations from the past, you'll kill yourself laughing.

one mistake and registration is of course, forgivable

The second word is not grapp

Look at it this way....

Photograph now drop the end "h" and add a "p" instead to get..

photograpp a photography app.

So it's a play on the word photograph and the word app

It makes sense to own them both. Now mind you it makes sense as a $20 registration for the .app, it would not have made sense to drop any big money on it.

As far as photograpp.com goes, well I have had a number of offers on it and one from as far away as Germany. I'm not prepared to sell it under 5k so I decided to hold off until someone sees the branding opportunity for an app on this one.

 

[MapleDots]

I have a major website on .club including a forum and it loads fine http on Chrome browser no need for SSL. I just haven't gotten around to putting this site on my server which offers free https yet.

Just to clarify

You missed the fact that I said .app & .dev as being the domains that require an ssl certificate.

Those two are owned by google and they mandate an ssl certificate. It is not optional like on the .club extension.

Hope that clears it up.