I hate Snapnames

[hrishi11]

I hate snapnames & pool. They make it impossible for anyone to get a good domain. Only the rich can afford the good domains now. For example, the a1.com auction that went for $260,000. Imagine if someone like you or me would have come upon that domain for reg fee after it expired... we would be quite rich. We could finally afford life's riches like a hot new ferrari or a nice house. With snapnames and pool around, this will never happen. I personally think domain buying would be much more exciting if snapnames and pool never existed.

 

[l0zo]

10 days or so ago i actually won a domain from snapnames, received the comfirmation letter that i won the auction, aswell as confirmation they credited my credit card. Still waiting to recieve my domain name from directi.

 

[tzmartin]

It's only going to get harder. ICANN is implementing a new deleted domain registry called the Central Listing Service. It essentially brings all deleted domains into one directory and auction system. All bids will be placed through virtually any registrar, which will help to compound the demand.

 

[DomainSage]

Could be worse, imagine if they did not run a service for anyone else but just kept the names themselves
At least we have a chance of getting some half decent names.

Sorry to hear about your problems Lorenzo, I have got domains through both for a few years without any troubles ... But I have heard of others having them, hope it all works out.

All the best.

Richard

 

[zachary0611]

i have never used snap names can you get names for cheap on there

 

[hrishi11]

Could be worse, imagine if they did not run a service for anyone else but just kept the names themselves
At least we have a chance of getting some half decent names.

Well such a thing shouldnt happen at all. Morally speaking, why should snapnames get all the profits from the good domains? Why shouldnt it be available to good honest people like us?

10 days or so ago i actually won a domain from snapnames, received the comfirmation letter that i won the auction, aswell as confirmation they credited my credit card. Still waiting to recieve my domain name from directi.

Wouldn't you have been gladder to register this domain for reg fee other than having to spend for example 100s of 1000s of dollars on snapnames for something they morally have no right to auction off in the first place?

 

[DomainSage]

Well such a thing shouldnt happen at all. Morally speaking, why should snapnames get all the profits from the good domains? Why shouldnt it be available to good honest people like us?

Well in a matter of speaking it is available to us, you just need to get the backing to set up a similar company. If they were disolved suddenly and you could no longer use any back order services there would be people complaining about us as we share information and ideas, I know it does not exactly cost anything but we do put the time in to learn the business ... which gives us the advantage ( the same as the drop services have the advantage over us, or other buyers have the advantage in they have better funding ).

The only real way to make it all equal is to have everyone interested in domains register their details with one site, then whenever a good name drops it is randomly sent to one of them

There will always be competitiors, after all it is a business. In any business someone will have the advantage ... Mind you, why is there only one monopolies comittee ???

All the best

Richard

 

[Sam]

Lol, if you hate snapnames. Your gonna either LOVE or HATE CLS. But Hate cls more likely since you like "premium" names.

 

[hrishi11]

Well such a thing shouldnt happen at all. Morally speaking, why should snapnames get all the profits from the good domains? Why shouldnt it be available to good honest people like us?

Richard

So would you rather spend 1000s on premium domains in benifit for snapnames or naturally find the domain and pay reg fee for it.

 

[vslevin]

Well such a thing shouldnt happen at all. Morally speaking, why should snapnames get all the profits from the good domains? Why shouldnt it be available to good honest people like us?

Well in a matter of speaking it is available to us, you just need to get the backing to set up a similar company. If they were disolved suddenly and you could no longer use any back order services there would be people complaining about us as we share information and ideas, I know it does not exactly cost anything but we do put the time in to learn the business ... which gives us the advantage ( the same as the drop services have the advantage over us, or other buyers have the advantage in they have better funding ).

The only real way to make it all equal is to have everyone interested in domains register their details with one site, then whenever a good name drops it is randomly sent to one of them

There will always be competitiors, after all it is a business. In any business someone will have the advantage ... Mind you, why is there only one monopolies comittee ???

All the best

Richard

The free flow of information in a forum is way different than companies like SnapNames auctioning off names for over a quarer of a million dollars, which isn't even justifiably theirs.

 

[DomainSage]

The free flow of information in a forum is way different than companies like SnapNames auctioning off names for over a quarer of a million dollars, which isn't even justifiably theirs.

Sorry,my point is that they have provided the service to capture the name.
This is something open to anyone that can secure the funds to provide a similar service, if it was that easy to make money then there would be many more in the mix.
Using this forum ( or any other, but I don't ) is just another way of securing an advantage over other people, it just happens to be free.

Maybe I am out of order here ( so mods please feel free to delete / modify ) but we are all in business, if taking part in this forum did not bring in any advantage then why would we be here ? The only reason would be for social interaction ... Whilst the people I have met here are great and I would be happy to go out for a pint or two with, it is still a business forum.

They provide the infrastructure to capture the domains in the first place, so in my view it is up to them how they sell them on ... Just the same as anyone who manages to register a good domain and develop it has the right to sell it on for whatever they see fit.

Sorry if this comes across in the wrong way, I am just putting my ideas and take on the situation down.

Wishing you all the best.

Richard

 

[mole]

Only the rich can afford the good domains now. For example, the a1.com auction that went for $260,000. Imagine if someone like you or me would have come upon that domain for reg fee after it expired... we would be quite rich. We could finally afford life's riches like a hot new ferrari or a nice house. With snapnames and pool around, this will never happen. I personally think domain buying would be much more exciting if snapnames and pool never existed.

If you are talking about the really good .COM names, yes it is very expensive to play the game today. I'm sure even the 'rich' balk at the kind of money they have to pay for each name nowadays. Everyone wants to get a good name for a couple of hundred. The rich did not become rich by throwing unneccessary money into the drain.

The acquisition game has already matured, is transparent and easy for the whole world and their dog to play, and way too late to acquire names with smartness and hard work like in the early years of 2000.

And because of the gross inefficiencies inherent within the 'fattest wallet in the world' syndrome we face today, millions of dollars need to be wasted in the hope of getting domains that might by chance make its money back and more in the coming years. Most probably won't. This industry is driven by hope, not realistic P/E ratios.

Which is why if you are a newcomer with a very limited budget, your best chance as a domainer is on new namespace like .EU, .US., forget about playing the auction for good names. That, or accept that you will be giving more than you are ever going to get, unless you are very lucky.

 

[mole]

I think we are lucky more millionaires are not in the game. Honestly considering the number of rich who could decide to pay anything to try and corner a market etc.

Big rich corporations don't care much for trafic generated by "curious type-ins". They prefer, and have the millions, to generate their own traffic. The domain name is normally just the start, pumping in millions into development and promotion of that one URL is where the action, and costs, really is.

Having hundreds of URLs in ludicrious to say the least, unless it was initiated by the legal department for IP reasons.

 

[wow!]

As I always said...sharks are eating / speculating every good domain.
I think you young/new domainers must bring new ideas how to snap those names or how to find new solutions to make big profits from domain business.

 

[hrishi11]

Big domain companies like snapnames are only around because they see that people like us are interested in paying hundreds of thousands. I honestly feel like boycotting snapnames for not playing the domain game fair.

 

[AdoptableDomains]

It was not much better before the drop auction services. Before they exsited, you had to write or buy scripts to search for names, then run scripts to try to register at the exact millisecond they were dropped. The registrars blocked this because everyone was trying to use their bandwidth to the registries slowing them to a crawl. The registries were also bombarded with registration attempts, and you had a hard time even registering an unwanted name near the scheduled drop time. Staggering the drop times only lead to expanding the traffic of the registration attempts. Most registrars then decided it was better to sell their registry bandwidth to a single drop service or a large bulk buyer like buydomains than have thousands of people bringing them down with rogue scripts.

If the drop services disappeard today, it still wouldn't be easy to get the names at reg fee.

 

[gazzip]

Agreed that it still wouldn't be easy to get the names at reg fee but it would level the playing field alot IMO

 

[AdoptableDomains]

Agreed that it still wouldn't be easy to get the names at reg fee but it would level the playing field alot IMO

Actually, it probably wouldn't, and wasn't before they came around. The big players had expensive and sophisticated scripts and access agreements with the registrars and registries to give them an advantage. Some even started registries of their own to get more access to bandwidth and drop information. They had an advantage in both funds and access. They still have the advantage in funds, but at least access is now on a fairly level paying field.

 

[Sir Regalot]

I wish there was a company like Snapnames.com in the UK. The situation the the UK for catching LLL.co.uks and valuable word co.uks is to put it in a word "stinks". There is no auction service available for dropped names. The only people who catch dropped names are tag holders of the UK registry nominet. This means a small group of the same people catch ALL the good names. Some tag holders catch good name after good name and let their collection pile up and they neither sell them or put anything on a domain's site. Some tag holders offer a dropcatching service. If you submit a request for a good name they hadn't noticed was dropping they write back to you saying that name is already booked and they try to catch it for themselves. Strangely enough Snapnames.com and Pool.com offer a dropcatching service for .co.uk names. I have requested scores of names to be caught by their service. Whilst they have caught many .coms and .infos these two companies have never caught any of the .co.uks I have requested. I think even Snapnames and Pool cannot break the hold Nominet tag holders have on .co.uk drops.

 

[primacomputer]

Well in a matter of speaking it is available to us, you just need to get the backing to set up a similar company. If they were disolved suddenly and you could no longer use any back order services there would be people complaining about us as we share information and ideas, I know it does not exactly cost anything but we do put the time in to learn the business ... which gives us the advantage ( the same as the drop services have the advantage over us, or other buyers have the advantage in they have better funding ).

It's not just about backing. The drop services rely on deals made with other companies which may not be available to you. This is a fundamental change from the first come first serve system that was previously in place.

If the drop services disappeard today, it still wouldn't be easy to get the names at reg fee.

Perhaps. But it would at least be possible. With registrars squatting on expired names and selling their connections to the drop companies it's literally impossible to pick up a drop without paying a premium to someone.

Sorry,my point is that they have provided the service to capture the name.
This is something open to anyone that can secure the funds to provide a similar service, if it was that easy to make money then there would be many more in the mix.

This is a very obtuse way of looking at it. What they do is pay money to jump the name registering queue. By getting in front of you they are able to purchase cheaply and sell it to you at a huge market. Most places in the world paying money for such favouritism would be called corruption.

Perhaps there are not so many people in the business because it's a close knit group of pirates not because it's so expensive to get into?