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How to value LLLL.com ? Help plz!

Labeled as question in Domain Beginners, started by moelaimari, Oct 23, 2020

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  1. moelaimari

    moelaimari Established Member

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    I am new to domaining industry , and wondering how to value LLLL.com
    and what are good 4l.com should focus on
     
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  2. Samer

    Samer Top Contributor VIP

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    Shortnames.com has good snapshot market

    As always, Namepros has cheapest LLLL.com

    I consider Anything under 100 is good deal; but try avoid the XQZY or “random” lol

    All 456,976 4L.com taken; value lowest ~100
     
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  3. moelaimari

    moelaimari Established Member

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    Thanks for ur advice
    what letters should I focus on a lot ?
     
  4. Samer

    Samer Top Contributor VIP

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    Western Premium
    Chinese Premium

    Have higher likelihood of being future acronym

    CVCV
    VCVC
    (free to add)
    are more pronounceable LLLL.com also

    Most expensive is
    CVCV (constant vowel constant vowel)
    They are worth thousands; i wish i had 1 Lol!
    Supposedly, is most “pronounceable” LLLL

    VCVC is not as good as CVCV, but still good.

    Some like “CVVC” pattern and so forth.

    Me? I see if name looks good.
    “Would you want to be called this?”
    “Would you want to develop this?”

    and my personal favorite;
    Always check if name sold in past on namebio
    nice “icing cake” ANY prev sale past despite sale history not 100% reliable, it helps; name sales history, worth more than w/o (all equal)
     
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  5. slader23

    slader23 Always On The Bleeding Edge. VIP

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    XQZY.com would actually be a decent CHIP.
    寻求正义--> Seek Justice.

    So another dimension you will need to understand to be efficient with LLLL.com is PINYIN acronyms.
     
  6. Samer

    Samer Top Contributor VIP

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    Yeah; i gave up to get the Chinese;
    i focus mostly Western (what can understand) Defer @Kassey Lee! has nice perspective :)

    Samer
     
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  7. Samer

    Samer Top Contributor VIP

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  8. pinkdragon

    pinkdragon Established Member

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    May I ask why are you wondering how to value LLLL.com domains, if you are new to domaining?

    Why don't you start with 2 word names, for example?
     
  9. moelaimari

    moelaimari Established Member

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    where I can find them cheap and resell them with a little profit , that is my goal ??
    thanks in advance
     
  10. johnn

    johnn WeSellName.com VIP ★★★★★★★★★★

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    I used this formula. We have 26 letters so each of them has the value: Ex: A=1, B=2, C=3, Z=26, etc...

    So if you have a four letter name add the letter values together : ABCD.com = 1+2+3+4=10
    - Multiple the result to 10.
    - If the Letters are in CVCV format add 2,000
    - If it is dictionary word add 25,000
    - Consecutive letters add 800
    - If you cannot sell the name in 3 month then divide the number by 2
    - If the name is Trade Mark - multiple the result by Zero.

    Hope this help.
     
  11. biggie

    biggie GreenFriendly.com VIP ★★★★★★★★★★

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    Hi

    finding cheap names, is not a problem
    finding cheap names that you can resell for a profit, is another story

    and that story, starts with learning, what are right names to buy

    imo...
     
  12. Samer

    Samer Top Contributor VIP

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    Yes @biggie "right names to buy"

    "cheap" is relative, as i find $~100 floor higher-end

    The beauty of these is easy to sell "liquid" due to 456,976 supply
    "liquid" as in the LLLL.com Niche;
    He picked the right Niche; huge in and of itself.
     
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  13. Samer

    Samer Top Contributor VIP

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    "Liquid" is an Oxymoron when used to describe domains.

    I love the low floor of Prices; gurantees most $100
     
  14. sputnik7

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    I heard that it is good to avoid x,y,q,w,j and k. Also two v and u. For example: upud or vvsc.
    So, at least don't buy LLLL with two first mentioned letters.
     
  15. biggie

    biggie GreenFriendly.com VIP ★★★★★★★★★★

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    Hi

    you heard?

    who, you was listening to?

    lot of folks being saying lately, that they heard this, and heard that.

    so, i'm wondering, who's been saying these things?

    just asking....

    imo....
     
  16. sputnik7

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    Johnn you are a great guy.
    You often help, but I especially like your style with specific advice and concrete information
    So, Thank you, Professor
     
  17. sputnik7

    sputnik7 Established Member

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    I heard it from one guy who has been dealing with domaining for ten years and I read this in his script which he sells as instructions on his website. He also takes courses. Namely, he is from Croatia like me and he is the only one I found on our net who deals with it. He offers instructions and some training and other things on his website. I wasn’t on his course, but I bought and red that script. You think that's nonsense what he's talking about? I don't know, I'm a beginner. That's why I wrote that I heard, not that I knew.
     
  18. sputnik7

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    He wrote that these letters are not considered premium letters and that this is the reason, and that the letters u and v are not exactly full premium so it is ok, but if there is only one of theses in four letter dn. That's what the script says. :)
     
  19. biggie

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    Hi

    it's more about what you heard
    and then what you think about what you heard,
    when you go down the path of acquisitions

    i've had others try jedi mind tricks on me
    telling me, certain letters in the domain are not premium, so it's not worth asking price
    one even said, "he was an expert"

    but still, if you believe what he said, then words like
    sexy, veve, vovo, love, kick, vick, lazy, quiz, juno, juni, juju, june, july, qubo, waxy, wavy, woke, wuwu, zuzu, zulu, etc, etc
    wouldn't have value or be desirable, because they have the "non premium" letters?.

    just saying....


    imo....
     
  20. Mytz.com

    Mytz.com Top 4L [email protected] ieie.com CuTu.com NeSu.com KKiK.com VIP Gold Account

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  21. BrandPlease

    BrandPlease BrandPlease.com VIP Gold Account

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    Hey - I had gotten into 4L coms some time back and dug up a ton of info - throughout NamePros. I put that all together and posted it on my site a while back.

    There is alot of good 4L info in it - & it's 100% sourced here, on NP, from folks much smarter than I am!

    If you want to check it out, the link is below. (it's my site)

    brandplease.com/short-domain-name-buyers/

    GL,
    Brian
     
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  22. Embrand

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    Some very good advice here. But the wonderful thing about domain investing is also that a name you least expect to sell sometimes suddenly sells. So what would look like a "horrible" llll.com to most of us, might be just what is needed by someone, somewhere...
     
  23. -AR-

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    My advise would probably be, buy what you would be prepared to keep for a while minimum 2 years to 10 years. Over time they will appreciate in value anyway even at a investor level as long as they are brandable and pronouncable. There is no right or wrong in my view, there is just experience and luck. Currently the investor market is very unclear, some people are selling their domains for cheap while others are requesting huge sums for domains that may not appreciate that much in the future.
     
  24. BigBusiness

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    Just sold napy.com for $6000 via GoDaddy premium listings. I would look for names that could be used as a brand or a short acronym.
     
  25. varyemez

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