How to find valid page rank?

[domainpush]

Hopefully this is the best place to ask this question. I have been checking my page rank on the site prchecker.info. However, unless someone is pulling my leg, I was told that site is not accurate.

Is there a sure way to find out what the page rank of a domain is?


Thanks

 

[designboss]

try www.rankchecker.com it will tell you if it is vaild or fake PR

 

[domainpush]

Thanks so much! I got the same results I was hoping to get. The other guy must be hating on me b/c the site is so new. LOL

Thanks buddy!

 

[Smiler]

try www.rankchecker.com it will tell you if it is vaild or fake PR

This ^ site is pretty accurate.

 

[domainpush]

Thanks!

 

[ommedu]

Thanks I have been looking for a better checker for a while

 

[thebutler]

If you're using firefox install the seoquake plug in. Good for PR and other important items in one easy click.

 

[sheena2012]

I am checking on checkpagerank.net , it gives me accurate detail on my website. hope this could helps.

 

[Luc]

try fastpagerank.com

it does pagerank validation, language checking and a lot of other tricks. it also allows for up bulk scans of up to 25k domains

 

[xtmoney]

cekpr.com is another great tool

 

[4pm]

all web/browser PR checking tools are based on the same api calling toolbarqueries.google.com (pretty simple to make your own php/javascript app and whats cool - the api does not have any rate limiting, at least i never seen any in real life). so if implemented correctly all will return correct PR rank. important to understand that no one of them really calculate PR (thats impossible without having the same data array as Google has), they all get pre-calculated figures from Google which means they all report identical results.

yet the validity of the ranking is quite another story as the above mentioned api does not provide any mneans of checking it. however this part turns to be even simpler to cope with - PR is considered valid if (in simple words) Google query "info:mydomain.com" returns the same domain:

for example,
if you have PR3 for aaa.com and search "info:aaa.com" returns aaa.com (or www/aaa.com) then PR is valid.
if the search returns some other domain PR is fake.
if theres "sorry no info ..." - consider it as not enough info to know for sure if PR is valid or not..

the only problem with validity is web based tools need to use (deprecated but still working) Google search api or do some Google search results scrapping - both of which are rate limited (and no one want to let you use multiple IPs for free for some reason) so mass-checking is difficult.

since i use my own tool (1st.ly/prcheck for mass-check or just shoot 1st.ly/prcheck/mydomain.com for one particular domain) i can tell that with reasonable 1 second timeout you are banned by IP after 25-30 requests. ban lasts for 20-30 seconds or something. ..well that technical stuff may be of no interest sorry.. anyway feel free to check it out - any bug reports greatly appreciated

 

[T-B]

There are no accurate fake PR tools.
All the tools check if there is a redirection on the domain by searching "info:domain.com" on Google and if they find domain.com in the results they say its a valid PR.
This is a complete bullshiit !
The domain fakers make a redirection, then the domain get its fake PR, then they delete the redirection and build a normal website, they wait till Google index it and then when you do "info:domain.com" you see it like its a valid PR.

The only way to know for sure if the domain's PR is valid is to check its backlinks profile, you should expect to find some PR(x+1) natural backlinks for PR(x) domain.

- Tom

 

[4pm]

There are no accurate fake PR tools.
All the tools check if there is a redirection on the domain by searching "info:domain.com" on Google and if they find domain.com in the results they say its a valid PR.
This is a complete bullshiit !

thats not bullshit - thats a PR validity in a real time.. lets say you have 1 good edu backlink, no redirection, no domain fakers around, everything is fair and clean..
you sell the domain with its PR4.. and its completely valid for the time being..
then the other day that nice .edu institution decides to just shut the page with your backlink down for some reason.. PR of your sold domain goes to the toilet on the next update.. was it bullshit when you sold it? no.. thats the nature of backlinks/PR imho

 

[xtmoney]

some time domain get valid pr4 from google pr update even without 1 backlink.
How about that?

 

[4pm]

some time domain get valid pr4 from google pr update even without 1 backlink.
How about that?

sure, it happens all the time.
as Google's Pagerank algorithm remains well kept secret (in its simplest basic form it's available to everyone - [ame="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PageRank"]PageRank - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia[/ame] - but they sure use much more advanced form for actual ranking) we still can make some reasonable assumptions. i got two:

1) not all backlinks Google use for PR shown via "link:mydomain.com". only those that they included in that special index. but those not shown also affecting the ranking and taken into account when they calculate it. for example, if you have 100 baclinks from your 100 sites to one of them Google probably use all of them for PR calculating, but may list none in "link:" search. how/what they choose to include in that index we dont know, but its natural to assume they mantain much wider index of backlinks for PR and other things

2) even if your site has no backlinks at all but is ranking high in SERP (because you've got unique highly relevant content, good seo, keyword domain etc) we can safely assume that their algo still gives you some PR because the probability that a user gets to your site while browsing is not zero (he can arrive via search or typein which Google apparently taking into consideration when calculating PR). simply put PR is not just baclinks metrics but includes SERP and typein statistics i believe..


imho

 

[NetOctave]

There are no accurate fake PR tools.
All the tools check if there is a redirection on the domain by searching "info:domain.com" on Google and if they find domain.com in the results they say its a valid PR.
This is a complete bullshiit !
The domain fakers make a redirection, then the domain get its fake PR, then they delete the redirection and build a normal website, they wait till Google index it and then when you do "info:domain.com" you see it like its a valid PR.

The only way to know for sure if the domain's PR is valid is to check its backlinks profile, you should expect to find some PR(x+1) natural backlinks for PR(x) domain.

- Tom

This is exactly true. I've fallen victim on this before.
They do exactly the same stuff.
- Redirect the site to a high PR site,
- then remove the redirection, and
- gets some pages indexed.
- And some of these crooks even gets high PR blog comments or other backlinks (can get it easily from Fiverr) to this site and then all starts to look natural.

But in reality, you end up getting screwed up. You can check this for yourself using any domain you have.

And so far, no tool I tried was able to detect it.

One thing I use is archive.org to check the archive of the site. If the site doesn't have a similar archive profile (different pages etc show up in archive or nothing turns up there), then I will be extra careful.

 

[vincewicks]

I am new to SEO, but my mentor explained the same scam technique to me the other day, because I nearly made a deal with that guy

 

[Irieman]

This is exactly true. I've fallen victim on this before.
They do exactly the same stuff.
- Redirect the site to a high PR site,
- then remove the redirection, and
- gets some pages indexed.
- And some of these crooks even gets high PR blog comments or other backlinks (can get it easily from Fiverr) to this site and then all starts to look natural.

But in reality, you end up getting screwed up. You can check this for yourself using any domain you have.

And so far, no tool I tried was able to detect it.

One thing I use is archive.org to check the archive of the site. If the site doesn't have a similar archive profile (different pages etc show up in archive or nothing turns up there), then I will be extra careful.

Yes, this is 100% correct. No current tool is able to detect these fake PR domains and there is new wave of scams going on. Just take a look over at DP, you'll see scammers tyring to sell domains with PR7-9. One guy even tried to sell a PR 10 domain!!!