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shilmy

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Hi,

Do any of you has regularly sell your domain to end users? If so, do you mind share with me in this thread on how find potential end users for your domain?

Regards,
Sjarief
 
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This has got to be the worst business in the world. I have sent hundreds of emails and not sold anything. On top of that I feel like a used car salesman approaching people with things they don't want. The domains I'm trying to sell are solid. It is basically impossible, I think.

I am considering just having the names dropped from my registrar. How do you guys operate in a business where you feel like dirt approaching people to sell them things they don't want because they are too stupid to understand what you are talking about? On top of that the amounts involved are pitiful compared to any business I have ever been involved with. Unbelieveable! I would rather sell brushes door-to-door than be involved in this s#@t.



What Domain names are you trying to sell to the Enduser? Just curious!
 
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try putting the "this domain for sale" sign on a page or content area that has especially strong interest. Visitors are often fellow webmasters checking things out. Convert picky visitors to potential buyers.
 
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Look at it like this. say you buy 5 domains @ $8 a piece...thats $40 and then flip each one for a $100 a piece. Thats $500..now do that weekly and for the month you have $2000. Greed will always keep you poor and im learning to control that myself :)


is it works for you?

im just wondering ... :hehe:
 
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is it works for you?

im just wondering ... :hehe:

No, but its my starting point goal ;)...I also have to learn not to be greedy. manytimes I may get $100 offers right off the bat, say no and end up renewing the name a year later....trying to get out of that habit
 
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have anyone using fax for offering our domains name? sometimes there are website that have no email email address, even in their whois page

is it effective or just wasting time ?
 
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99% of the time, I haven't got any response for the emails i have sent, but is it good manners to send a thanking mail for those responded with not interested/not looking etc such in a polite way?
 
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have anyone using fax for offering our domains name? sometimes there are website that have no email email address, even in their whois page

is it effective or just wasting time ?

I think that a fax is just a waste of time.
 
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Yes, it does depend on the nature of the company. Do not assume that they would rather pay low $xxx on the name than UDRP you and then sue you for damages to recover the UDRP costs. If we're talking a large corporation or even an SMB, they would probably rather fork over $2000 to turn you into an example than opt for a low $xxx settlement. Be prepared to either go to court or give up the domain for free.

And even if they did settle for low $xxx, exacting cash by cybersquatting is bad karma and serves to reinforce the general public's view of domainers as cybersquatters.

Never register or purchase a domain with intent to sell it to one specific company, especially if they're well-established and hold a TM on that domain's keywords. If there multiple companies who go by the keywords in those domains then you're probably better off, but still liable to UDRP if you offer it one of the companies who owns the TM.

Also, contrary to popular belief, a "TM domain" is not simply a domain whose keywords are trademarked by at least one firm. More on that later.

And what if there is no trademark registered? Can they still start UDRP?
 
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Yes.
It's all in the usage.

How can this be possible? For example i have a domain xxxx.com and there is some xxxxcorp.com. XXXX is not registered as trademark. I use xxxx.com for my own website or business. Can the corp that own xxxxcorp.com sue me?
 
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How can this be possible? For example i have a domain xxxx.com and there is some xxxxcorp.com. XXXX is not registered as trademark. I use xxxx.com for my own website or business. Can the corp that own xxxxcorp.com sue me?
Yes, you can get sued if xxxxcorp.com is selling baseball and
your site, xxxx.com is selling baseball.

You will NOT get sued if your site is selling toy and
xxxxcorp.com is selling computer, for example.
 
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Yes, you can get sued if xxxxcorp.com is selling baseball and
your site, xxxx.com is selling baseball.

You will NOT get sued if your site is selling toy and
xxxxcorp.com is selling computer, for example.

And what if i sell baseball and them - toys, but i offer them my domain for sale? Is this going to be considered as bad will/faith?
 
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And what if i sell baseball and them - toys, but i offer them my domain for sale? Is this going to be considered as bad will/faith?

This cannot be answered accurately without a full-blown investigation. Generally, if you are attempting to profit in any way from a name, including trying to sell the name (whether it's officially registered as a Trademark or not), you risk a "bad faith" legal decision.

A company name can be considered their TradeMark whether or not it was ever officially registered.
 
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Just in case this hasn't been mentioned...Craigslist.

I just sold a .org domain for $65 that I picked up elsewhere for $3 (I think) - from one ad taken out on Craigslist. It had special appeal to Austin, Texas, so I thought I'd try it locally. Not much money - but it was easy enough.
 
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Is there any Cambodian domainer here?

I own Chinese Cambodia Pinyin domain:
Jianpuzhai.com

I want to sell it to end user,if you have any clues,please contact me,thanks.
 
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I have a non-top-domainer's-domain, a L-L-L .com :guilty:
Let's say it is X-X-X.*com for an example
From the search engine, i found lot of xxx+{keyword} websites.
Most of them are related with stock exchange, big and small ones, even one of them is a stock exchange in a country.

I started to think that the "end users" are too "big" for the domain :| (i mean the stock exchange)

Does anyone can give me suggestion / opinion about how to deal with this "big" end users? :guilty:

I have sent some mails to the smaller one, but got no reply, and i got no inquiry this far.
Or should i drop it instead? :td:
 
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Greetings NamePros.

This will be my first post on this forum and sincerely one i have been waiting for quite some time to do, the reason being that it took me a while to interiorize all the information you guys shared specifically on this thread as it touched the exact subject i needed to go forward with what i had in mind.

It took me a bit over two weeks to read it all and copy the information i thought relevant (to use as reference) i also did a lot of restructuring to my strategies and adopted many of what was shared here.

Before i come out with my main question i would like to express my gratitude to all that have contributed with their experiences and data, that you would do it to help the community is very inspiring of respect, Thank You.

So focusing on what i have been doing while going through all of your posts i have come up with a strategy based on what some of you have counseled and of which Joshua has been a great influence.

What i will ask of you is what you guys are best at - Constructive Criticism - please feel free to express anything you think would help improve the strategy i will be using, i will keep an open mind and one thing i understand is that ego's have no place in businesses.

Strategy​

That being said i have a company i founded with 2 other friends over a year ago and we're all focusing on different areas, i have chosen Domain Flipping and i have decided to follow your advices will be using our company website (which is still under construction) and create a section devoted to Domains in which i will be providing all information on every aspect regarding the domains i will be selling to end users and auctions.

My intention would be as well to give an image of who the end-user is dealing as to avoid being labeled a scammer or anything of sorts and at the same time use an email based on my company domain with my first and last name to add in credibility.

I have found the statistical analysis that Joshua shared on when to contact end-users to increase response very inspiring and decided to act on it, also i have found his pitch templates well structured, i will be using some and others as well but all tweaked.

My idea is to do all the research on end-users gather all the data required and when mailing them i'm still considering whether to use Joshua method of just keep it through email or Cold Calling (which i'm also organizing my ideas and preparing some scripts for the actual conversation over the phone) or to either in the first pitch or in the second after the response to include a link to my website section where i will have one article customized for each end-user with all the information regarding they're domain and why "my" domain is a good investment for them, the price and any other relevant information and i intend to do it in a way that each customized article is only accessible by the end-user who received the mail with the link.

I will then include an article on a common area with the info for general purposes.

I am parking all domains on sedo and i intend to put them on auction if i can't find an interested end-user and try as well to give it maximum exposure on other places to increase the possibility of selling it.

I am intending to be successful on this but at the same time to adapt myself to situations in order to achieve my goal.

I will be eager to hear from all interested in commenting, i'm unsure if i should post my website link here or if i should ask you guys to PM me so that i give you the link.

I believe i have a few questions but i was dumb enough to not write them down while i was reading so i will be asking them as they come.

- Edited: I remember one, Joshua you use buydomains(dot)com to base your prices but do you do it off the current list for sale? i can't find a list of recently sold domains and since you're using it on your picth mail to give prices it would be good to know this, thank you.

Thank you all for the excellent thread.
 
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Selling to end users means SALES.

Read up on sales. Persistence, patience and putting the right opportunity in front of the right people.

I sold a three keyword domain to an end user today for $500.

Keep the price under $2500 and you'll be fine.
 
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