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Hi Friends

my 3 domains sold through both market places. i saw sale is little slow now a days , what about u?


also i saw many domainers are selling domains through their own website

How many domains u have sold in BB( brandbucket) or Namerific yet?



thanks :)
 
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MindDoc: Just to put things in perspective, your first domain was published in July, and the bulk of the rest of them were published in late September and October. That is just over two months.

For anyone out there who thinks that brandable domains, or domaining in general is a "get rich quick" business, please be prepared to be disappointed. Any domain -- keyword or non-keyword -- that is being sold for over $500 takes time to sell. And the higher the price, the longer it can take. Brandables in particular have the particular (dis)pleasure of having to have the right buyer come along and fall in love with the sound. It takes years, and a lot of patience, to sell brandable names.

There are names owned by BrandBucket's parent company that recently sold that have been listed on BrandBucket since day one -- that was 2007, so they took 6 YEARS TO SELL. If you consider that our average selling price is about $2400, and we paid about $60 in registration fees over time, that's still a huge return.

Thanks for your comment.
I am learning this hard lesson slowly. I was seriously hoping for at least a single sales by this time. The thing is If I don't make some sales within this year, I won't be able to afford to renew many of the domains next year. I have paid over $300 for just listing fees to your site. I just hope to see some returns on my investments.

Also, your policy of exclusivity is making things more difficult. I am not saying it is not right. From your point of view, you would feel cheated if you had design logo and list and we sell it somewhere else. But from a domain seller's point of view, it is making sales more difficult. For example, I had an offer for a domain listed at your site for around $2500. The buyer offered me $500, which will be a huge profit for me. But I had to let go because of your exclusivity.

Anyway, thanks for your perceptive. :)

---------- Post added at 07:03 PM ---------- Previous post was at 06:14 PM ----------

Well he says he has 70 domains listed already with no sales and linked to a thread with other he has found; I'm just saying IMO most of the names in that thread he linked I wouldn't personally reg myself; so if he has 70 names and hasn't sold any then perhaps he needs to be a bit more picky in what he is buying - just trying to save him some money :)

Thanks for your input. I do believe that most of my domains do have value. If they are that much unreasonable, I don't think they would have been accepted in the first place :). My complete list of brandables are linked here. You can go through and give your opinion of them. Also, what might be valuable to one person may sound silly to another. I concur mikeowoicho's statement that Luck has a role in selling brandables. Regarding my thread of available brandable domains, I just started it and will try to improve the quality of the available names.
Thanks for your input
 
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I have paid over $300 for just listing fees to your site. I just hope to see some returns on my investments.

Also, your policy of exclusivity is making things more difficult. I am not saying it is not right.


...you are paying for a listing on a boutique site with a fraction of Sedo eyeballs, filtered for quality and exclusively bound but doing nothing more than Sedo/TDNAM/Afternic/etc/etc for promotion (sorry, they do $5 logos)?? what a joke... why?

list for free at Sedo, Afternic, Godddy, Namerific and park with no ads option at DomainNameSales - lower comissions, wider audience, no exclusivity (wtf?), no upfront fees, you are in charge of pricing..


what you found that attractive in BB to pay for the listings and be bound by exclusivity limitations? compare sales volumes (brandables or whatever filter like 5L, 6L, etc you prefer) to the above listed marketplaces and feel the diff... as for me i got regular and steady influx of offers/requests from established venues vs a couple from Namerific for the last couple of months (~15 names there, going to delist all because of high commissions, huge amount of low quality inventory and random pricing)




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before you buy a barandable name, you should assume you will be renewing it for 5 - 10 years. If you assume you will be able to buy and flip these names in a year... you are looking at the wrong niche.
 
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I think way to many of US get caught up in one of these two categories

1. My name got accepted at one of these sites and that makes it a great name
2. My name didn't get accepted at one of these sites and that makes it a bad name

Neither one is true. None of the owners of Brand Bucket, Namerific, or BrandRoot have any branding or naming experience so who makes them the judge or jury. They just have a site that sells brandable names. Namerific is owned by Zane Gocha who is a nice guy but I remember when he was listing names at Brand Stack now known as Brand Crowd. He is a regular guy like you and I who has no formal training in Naming so just because a name was accepted or not accepted at Namerific means nothing. It's just his choice in taste. Same goes for Margot Bushnaq who owns Brand Bucket. This site got started because she was naming some of her own companies and had left over names that people liked so she started her own site. I don't know much about Michael Rader from Brand Root but from looking at the names on his site he has no formal training either but seems like a really nice guy.
Bottom line, try to follow the parameters that professional namers follow. Even companies like Addison Whitney, Catchword, ZinZin, A Hundred Monkeys etc..... come up with crappy names also. It's all personal taste. The consumer is clueless at what they are looking at and most of the names sold at these sites are bought only because they sound good even though the name means absolutely nothing. Listed below are some names from these sites that in my opinion suck but they got listed. I am sorry if anyone gets offended but this is only my opinion but honesty is the best policy because that's how we learn. I have names that suck also so we are all in this together.

Listed at Brand Bucket
TWAGIC
CESSINA trademark infringement of Cessna Aircraft Corporation
SHNOOPY
GROGGY DOGGY
TABLOMO
TWOOPIO
INFINIFTY
LET'S JEST
MUCKERY
OMGTY ??

Listed at BrandRoot
REINFORAY
SUNLID
PANDAVINE
PICKPOKE
LAZYLEGAL
JACKPOTA
NEWYUP
HUAROH
INWAI
DOUBAJ

Listed at Namerific
GRISB0N
SONOLLY
BONYUM
SEPHAUNT
STATUSBUBBLE
BOSSABLUE
BLUEABBEY
BULLETACCESS
OORKLE
HUWAII

Just remember if your name gets accepted that does not make it a great name and if it doesn't that does not make it a bad name. If you like the names you choose get out there and sell them because domaining is all about making money and having fun while you do it.
 
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I think way to many of US get caught up in one of these two categories

1. My name got accepted at one of these sites and that makes it a great name
2. My name didn't get accepted at one of these sites and that makes it a bad name

Neither one is true. None of the owners of Brand Bucket, Namerific, or BrandRoot have any branding or naming experience so who makes them the judge or jury. They just have a site that sells brandable names. Namerific is owned by Zane Gocha who is a nice guy but I remember when he was listing names at Brand Stack now known as Brand Crowd. He is a regular guy like you and I who has no formal training in Naming so just because a name was accepted or not accepted at Namerific means nothing. It's just his choice in taste. Same goes for Margot Bushnaq who owns Brand Bucket. This site got started because she was naming some of her own companies and had left over names that people liked so she started her own site. I don't know much about Michael Rader from Brand Root but from looking at the names on his site he has no formal training either but seems like a really nice guy.
Bottom line, try to follow the parameters that professional namers follow. Even companies like Addison Whitney, Catchword, ZinZin, A Hundred Monkeys etc..... come up with crappy names also. It's all personal taste. The consumer is clueless at what they are looking at and most of the names sold at these sites are bought only because they sound good even though the name means absolutely nothing. Listed below are some names from these sites that in my opinion suck but they got listed. I am sorry if anyone gets offended but this is only my opinion but honesty is the best policy because that's how we learn. I have names that suck also so we are all in this together.

Listed at Brand Bucket
TWAGIC
CESSINA trademark infringement of Cessna Aircraft Corporation
SHNOOPY
GROGGY DOGGY
TABLOMO
TWOOPIO
INFINIFTY
LET'S JEST
MUCKERY
OMGTY ??

Listed at BrandRoot
REINFORAY
SUNLID
PANDAVINE
PICKPOKE
LAZYLEGAL
JACKPOTA
NEWYUP
HUAROH
INWAI
DOUBAJ

Listed at Namerific
GRISB0N
SONOLLY
BONYUM
SEPHAUNT
STATUSBUBBLE
BOSSABLUE
BLUEABBEY
BULLETACCESS
OORKLE
HUWAII

Just remember if your name gets accepted that does not make it a great name and if it doesn't that does not make it a bad name. If you like the names you choose get out there and sell them because domaining is all about making money and having fun while you do it.

Post of the year on the topic IMO
 
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In the eyes of newbies, acceptance by BB and the clones has become the new benchmark of domain value after estibot :lala:

Guess what, all those specialist platforms have an incentive to take paid passengers on board - because they are charging a lot for the privilege and they have nothing to lose, the risk is all yours. But at the same time they must be careful not to dilute the overall quality of the portfolio. This is a delicate trade-off :)
But they always win, regardless of whether your domains get sold or not. Nice business model.
 
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Got lot of good names rejected by both :)
vioos is one of them ; )
 
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Neither one is true. None of the owners of Brand Bucket, Namerific, or BrandRoot have any branding or naming experience so who makes them the judge or jury. They just have a site that sells brandable names. Namerific is owned by Zane Gocha who is a nice guy but I remember when he was listing names at Brand Stack now known as Brand Crowd. He is a regular guy like you and I who has no formal training in Naming so just because a name was accepted or not accepted at Namerific means nothing. It's just his choice in taste. Same goes for Margot Bushnaq who owns Brand Bucket. This site got started because she was naming some of her own companies and had left over names that people liked so she started her own site. I don't know much about Michael Rader from Brand Root but from looking at the names on his site he has no formal training either but seems like a really nice guy.

When you're in the field long enough you start to get a better idea about what works and what doesn't. This is more valuable than any training. You also have a keener eye on what names are starting up around since you're dedicated full-time+ to the business, as I am. I have also read and studied numerous books about branding and naming, which has allowed me to write about the subject extensively. That's not to say we may accept and list some iffy names, but these names even serve a purpose (at Brandroot) believe it or not. Without a few of the bad ones, how will the good ones shine and attract a buyer? That said, I would never intentionally accept a bad name from an outside individual but this has been part of my tactic since I started, listing a few bad ones of my own. For a similar reason I purchased high value 4-letter names (likely not to sell for some time), to help increase the overall value perception of the site. "Oh I can't afford this name, but oh... this name is nice and more in my price range. It's also a lot better than this ugly one sitting next to it so I better it get it quick." (probably shouldn't be shouting out strategy, but just making the point that when you're actually behind such a specialized business you develop a lot more reason and tactic. There's much more than picking and choosing. Almost every month I let about 10-20 names expire from my portfolio. Some names truly are bad and should not be allowed to waste money. Doubaj, Sunlid etc.... probably on my drop list. lol

And thank you, I am a nice guy... for the most part. :)

Also, your policy of exclusivity is making things more difficult. I am not saying it is not right. From your point of view, you would feel cheated if you had design logo and list and we sell it somewhere else. But from a domain seller's point of view, it is making sales more difficult. For example, I had an offer for a domain listed at your site for around $2500. The buyer offered me $500, which will be a huge profit for me. But I had to let go because of your exclusivity.

I agree, exclusivity is a touchy subject. At Brandroot, we will require it too. It definitely didn't make me happy at BrandBucket but it's just one of those things that needs to be or you're just wasting time and money listing and designing names. However, at Brandroot, when a name gets sold outside our site we realize there's little we can do to prevent it and would hate for the owner to miss out on a sale (like your situation), so we are asking that sellers at least send payment for the agreed logo amount award, since the logo designer is really what concerns us most. The logo is really what makes this business model work and we don't want to starve the designers.

what you found that attractive in BB to pay for the listings and be bound by exclusivity limitations? compare sales volumes (brandables or whatever filter like 5L, 6L, etc you prefer) to the above listed marketplaces and feel the diff... as for me i got regular and steady influx of offers/requests from established venues vs a couple from Namerific for the last couple of months (~15 names there, going to delist all because of high commissions, huge amount of low quality inventory and random pricing)

A lot of end-buyers don't know anything about SEDO and other marketplaces. They are terribly unattractive and very difficult and time-consuming to search through the trash. It's not for the business man looking for a nice, quick name for their new idea. What do these types of people do? They don't go to SEDO, they search Google for phrases like "cool business names." or "creative business name" (and so many others) where they will find at the top, BB, Brandroot etc.... not SEDO or Afternic. We are attracting a very different buyer, and all to your advantage. It's really hard to compare the two.

We're not selling domains (well we are) but it's not the domain name marketplace, its a business name marketplace. Some customers surprisingly do not know exactly what a domain is and it has to be explained to them. You would never find this person at a GoDaddy auction.
 
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Now take the owner of Qubix.com held for 11 years sold yesterday for $10,000
 
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I like Qubix.com and I like it even more when I see QubixMedia.com, QubixInternational.com, QubixTech.com, QubixSolutions.com, QubixElectronics.com, and about 40 others.
This is a prime example of why Phive.com was a great buy at Godaddy auctions the other day. Lots of companies using Phive in the same exact way as Qubix. Quick sale at low X,XXX or sit and possibly get XX,XXX
 
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I think way to many of US get caught up in one of these two categories

1. My name got accepted at one of these sites and that makes it a great name
2. My name didn't get accepted at one of these sites and that makes it a bad name

Neither one is true. None of the owners of Brand Bucket, Namerific, or BrandRoot have any branding or naming experience so who makes them the judge or jury. They just have a site that sells brandable names. Namerific is owned by Zane Gocha who is a nice guy but I remember when he was listing names at Brand Stack now known as Brand Crowd. He is a regular guy like you and I who has no formal training in Naming so just because a name was accepted or not accepted at Namerific means nothing. It's just his choice in taste. Same goes for Margot Bushnaq who owns Brand Bucket. This site got started because she was naming some of her own companies and had left over names that people liked so she started her own site. I don't know much about Michael Rader from Brand Root but from looking at the names on his site he has no formal training either but seems like a really nice guy.
Bottom line, try to follow the parameters that professional namers follow. Even companies like Addison Whitney, Catchword, ZinZin, A Hundred Monkeys etc..... come up with crappy names also. It's all personal taste. The consumer is clueless at what they are looking at and most of the names sold at these sites are bought only because they sound good even though the name means absolutely nothing. Listed below are some names from these sites that in my opinion suck but they got listed. I am sorry if anyone gets offended but this is only my opinion but honesty is the best policy because that's how we learn. I have names that suck also so we are all in this together.

Listed at Brand Bucket
TWAGIC
CESSINA trademark infringement of Cessna Aircraft Corporation
SHNOOPY
GROGGY DOGGY
TABLOMO
TWOOPIO
INFINIFTY
LET'S JEST
MUCKERY
OMGTY ??

Listed at BrandRoot
REINFORAY
SUNLID
PANDAVINE
PICKPOKE
LAZYLEGAL
JACKPOTA
NEWYUP
HUAROH
INWAI
DOUBAJ

Listed at Namerific
GRISB0N
SONOLLY
BONYUM
SEPHAUNT
STATUSBUBBLE
BOSSABLUE
BLUEABBEY
BULLETACCESS
OORKLE
HUWAII

Just remember if your name gets accepted that does not make it a great name and if it doesn't that does not make it a bad name. If you like the names you choose get out there and sell them because domaining is all about making money and having fun while you do it.

Yes they have some crappy names, but I think the point is that they have a much lower proportion of bad to good compared to the big marketplaces, and a much higher percentage of names that could actually be used as a company title. I think they are all very well-trained in the school of experience, which is often more valuable than formal training. When my domains are rejected I sometimes disagree with them, but more often than not a part of me grudgingly agrees that it has shortcomings.

Remember also, they may have reasons for not choosing your name that have nothing to do with its quality, such as conflicting with an existing brand, or already having a title in stock that is too similar.

Rader, thanks for the great response!
 
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At Sedo or any other large marketplace I can list whatever name I want no matter how crappy it is and include it with the millions of other names listed there but at Brand Bucket etc....there are only about 2,500 names that are hand picked so there should not be a bad one in the bunch so your comparison doesn't hold water.
I think its funny how just because a person has a website that makes them some expert or professional in that field. Rader said he has read lots of branding books etc....which is great but I have read lots of medical books but that doesn't make me a doctor. I like his sales pitch on putting bad brands next to good brands so it makes the good ones shine. If that was true the local Ferrari dealer would put a couple Hondas in the showroom to make the good ones shine or how about a Timex next to a Rolex. Come one, what a load of BS! Just admit that sometimes we all choose bad names. It's that simple.
 
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Hi hookbox

I agree with you. We all pick crappy names.

However, the Decoy effect and relative decision making is a well-known phenomenon in marketing. In the Ferrari dealership example it is still present at a higher level, with different models having different prices and features, including obviously superior and inferior models to get the buyer to choose the mid-range one.
 
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The decoy effect is only relevant when a small limited number of choices are available but when you have 2,500 choices the decoy effect is impossible to implement because you never know where item A is going to be seen when compared to item B or item C etc......and then for the decoy effect to really take shape all items would have to be fairly similar in price but if item A is listed at $1,700 and item B is listed at $3,500 then the decoy effect is rendered irrelevant because the price comparison is to wide of a gap to even be considered as a decoy effect trap. So the bottom line like I said before is sometimes we choose bad names but it's easier to come up with some grand excuse instead of just admitting we made a bad choice.

I do agree with Rader that adding really good names such as high priced great 4 letters does make the cheaper good names look better but to say adding bad names to make the others look better is still in my opinion BS.
 
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...you are paying for a listing on a boutique site with a fraction of Sedo eyeballs, filtered for quality and exclusively bound but doing nothing more than Sedo/TDNAM/Afternic/etc/etc for promotion (sorry, they do $5 logos)?? what a joke... why?

list for free at Sedo, Afternic, Godddy, Namerific and park with no ads option at DomainNameSales - lower comissions, wider audience, no exclusivity (wtf?), no upfront fees, you are in charge of pricing..


what you found that attractive in BB to pay for the listings and be bound by exclusivity limitations? compare sales volumes (brandables or whatever filter like 5L, 6L, etc you prefer) to the above listed marketplaces and feel the diff... as for me i got regular and steady influx of offers/requests from established venues vs a couple from Namerific for the last couple of months (~15 names there, going to delist all because of high commissions, huge amount of low quality inventory and random pricing)




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Thanks for your comment
Not that I got any offers from Sedo, But I was thinking that my domains would be lost in the many thousands of domains listed there. I do have many domains at sedo but no offers there to. If it were 4 letter .coms or key words then I may have gotten more offers. Instead, I own many brandables.
I wonder if i am doing anything wrong while listing at sedo. Is there any way to list properly so that it is easily found by others?
Thanks for your help.
 
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When i try to add domain on Namerific in first section where you need to write domain name,description and keywords I only have name option.

Whats wrong?
 
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When i try to add domain on Namerific in first section where you need to write domain name,description and keywords I only have name option.

Whats wrong?

I think the name would have to e accepted first before you can add details.
 
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Really? Because when I registered and went to add domain (just to look how it goes), I had more fields.

I would put picture but cant :You must be a registered member for at least 10 days in order to post links.

In first name,description and keywords I only have option to write domain name.
Before i could see option to write domain name,then description (how would you describe name etc.),then keywords (write keywords for name).
 
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@Kasa7

It seems like they changed the format for adding names. Before you would have to add the domain, description, keywords etc......which was a big waste of time on a domain that you didn't know if they would accept or not so now you don't have to waste your time unless the name is accepted. It's much easier this way so I don't what your complaining about.
 
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I have noticed the same thing.

I agree that it's better just to submit the name and then IF it's approved deal with the rest of the details.
 
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