question How Domains with numbers are valued?

[bashariqbal]

I am seeing lots of NNNNN.coms and NNNNNN.coms selling for lots of money.
Like here in NP in section "Make Offer: Min. $500" there is 10900.com which has lots of offers on it and also in "Domain Auctions" 49124.com and 152778.com & 115150.com have lots of decent bids on them.

So my question is how 1 would access the value of these type domains? As domainer what are you looking in them? I have tried to find out but could not get any concrete answer.

Any help would be appreciated....

 

[CrocodileDundee]

http://ggrg.com/numeric-domains-2-0-the-definitive-guide/

^This will help you.

 

[bashariqbal]

still I dont understand the value of 152778.com & 115150.com bcz hundreds of such names are droping daily...

 

[hawkeye]

It's pretty simple if you look at it. Numbers are universal, so anyone-anywhere can understand/read them. As time goes by, and demand claims more domains, in this case numericals, then the prices will increase too.

So if you look at valuations of them

Previously:
NNN.com sell for mid to high thousands and up to low tens of thousands.
NNNN.com sell for high hundreds to low thousands.
NNNNN.com sell for reg to very low hundred dollars.
NNNNNN.com who cares.

Currently:
NNN.com sell for high tens of thousands, to hundreds of thousands.
NNNN.com sell for mid to high thousands, and up to low tens of thousands.
NNNNN.com sell for low hundreds to mid hundreds.
NNNNNN.com sell for reg to under hundred dollars.

So in 4-5 years, you'll wish you had put in 20-50ea on NNNNNN.com's because they'll probably be worth hundred of dollars then.

 

[bashariqbal]

It's pretty simple if you look at it. Numbers are universal, so anyone-anywhere can understand/read them. As time goes by, and demand claims more domains, in this case numericals, then the prices will increase too.

So if you look at valuations of them

Previously:
NNN.com sell for mid to high thousands and up to low tens of thousands.
NNNN.com sell for high hundreds to low thousands.
NNNNN.com sell for reg to very low hundred dollars.
NNNNNN.com who cares.

Currently:
NNN.com sell for high tens of thousands, to hundreds of thousands.
NNNN.com sell for mid to high thousands, and up to low tens of thousands.
NNNNN.com sell for low hundreds to mid hundreds.
NNNNNN.com sell for reg to under hundred dollars.

So in 4-5 years, you'll wish you had put in 20-50ea on NNNNNN.com's because they'll probably be worth hundred of dollars then.

Thanks for the reply.
Yes I understand that for the COMs upto 5-digits. Beyond that the number should have something special in it to have any kind of value... Just take a look here, I don't understand what makes these numbers valuable to have even a resale price like that.
May be I am missing something.

 

[hawkeye]

Just take a look here, I don't understand what makes these numbers valuable to have even a resale price like that.

Ok, here is a better way to understand it - value is in the eye of the buyer!! (or Go Figure! ) Some things are just not understandable in life, especially why certain domains sell for what they do!!

 

[mech35]

i have to agree with the ts, i can't understand how these 2 NNNNNN have more value than any other expiring NNNNNN on expireddomains.net. I get it , it is important to have certain digits repeating and also no 4-digit. But thats it, i can't get the rest of the path ... how are these 2 special ???? O.o

 

[briguy]

still I dont understand the value of 152778.com & 115150.com bcz hundreds of such names are droping daily...

I believe you are talking about two domains that of this posting are bring auctioned off here on Namepros....if I am right, why not contact the winner and ask him or her why they bidded on those domains.

 

[Nazz]

I believe you are talking about two domains that of this posting are bring auctioned off here on Namepros....if I am right, why not contact the winner and ask him or her why they bidded on those domains.

BINGO!

 

[bashariqbal]

Ya that would my last resort

 

[gotasale]

please do some search and learn more

10900.com is one of the top NNNNN

compare google search results and exact match with other names

10900.com
29,000,000
590

10008.com
9,800,000
480

08880.com
432,000
260

88088.com
425,000
140

88880.com
426,000
90

51513.com sold for 9,200$
458,000
50

17176.com sold for 55,000$
645,000
90

 

[Tushar Batra]

Go Through these..

http://www.mediaoptions.com/domain-names/understanding-numeric-domain-value-in-chinese-culture.html

http://www.domainsherpa.com/giuseppe-graziano-numeric-domains-interview/

 

[bashariqbal]

Go Through these..

http://www.mediaoptions.com/domain-names/understanding-numeric-domain-value-in-chinese-culture.html

http://www.domainsherpa.com/giuseppe-graziano-numeric-domains-interview/

Thanks.
I am reading through number of articles relating to 'numeric domains ' and those you have mentioned are already open in my tabs including many others.
But until now I have not found any reason why domains at this auction have any value.

 

[domainerfella]

I think it is NOT okay to raise questions on an ongoing NP auction. I wouldn't do it. Just my 2 cents.

 

[bashariqbal]

please do some search and learn more

10900.com is one of the top NNNNN

compare google search results and exact match with other names

10900.com
29,000,000
590

10008.com
9,800,000
480

08880.com
432,000
260

88088.com
425,000
140

88880.com
426,000
90

51513.com sold for 9,200$
458,000
50

17176.com sold for 55,000$
645,000
90

Thanks @gotasale for pointing out Search Volume...
I was in the impression that as Google do not have that much presence in China so it would not give any significant search volume about numeric keywords...
I know up until 5-Ns they are quite valuable and there is some scarcity factor that comes into play even the domain contains undesirable numbers like 4,5 or starting with 0.
But I am more intrigued abt 6-Ns domains as at this NP auction. How one would know it is valuable or not when there are 1000s n 1000s are available for Hand reg.?

 

[briguy]

I can tell you some of the reason that I bid on a auction.
(1) seller..maybe the seller has a high value portfolio and dumping the lesser value ones,
So his garbage is my treasure
(2) maybe I have a client who needs that name
(3) maybe that name is a perfect name for my current or next project
(4) maybe noticed a rival bidding and the competitive side says...there no way in h!'ll am I going to let him get in
(5) maybe I had a dream and that number was in it
(6) maybe it a postal code
(7) maybe i own the numbers before and after and i want to own all three (etc)

Probably can go on and on...maybe there just no logic to why there is bidding on a domsin!

 

[biggie]

Thanks.
I am reading through number of articles relating to 'numeric domains ' and those you have mentioned are already open in my tabs including many others.
But until now I have not found any reason why domains at this auction have any value.

hi

viewing past sales, price guides, reading articles or watching domainer video's won't help you understand why

only by being part of the expansion, will you really see where value is heading.


it' starts with what's available to register and what's not.

at one time, nn.com thru nnnnn.com were all available to register
now, you'd have hard time registering 7 number domains or higher, depending on the digits and placement of them.

so, (time) + (availability or lack of) + (# of domainers), can = value for any particular category of subject of interest.... in .com

ie: in late 2013, for nnnn.com, nobody wanted to buy names with 4's in them and most price ranges were under $1k.

now in 2015, nnnn.com with 4's in them are selling at or close to 5 figures.

that's (value) over (time)



imo....

 

[bashariqbal]

I will try my luck with numeric DN auction at NP soon... Let see what I have I learned...
Thanks all you of guys here ...

 

[greggb]

I am seeing lots of NNNNN.coms and NNNNNN.coms selling for lots of money.
Like here in NP in section "Make Offer: Min. $500" there is 10900.com which has lots of offers on it and also in "Domain Auctions" 49124.com and 152778.com & 115150.com have lots of decent bids on them.

So my question is how 1 would access the value of these type domains? As domainer what are you looking in them? I have tried to find out but could not get any concrete answer.

Any help would be appreciated....

I haven't paid much attention to the buying/selling activity here at this forum. But what I've observed at Flippa and Sedo are a lot of people attempting to sell domain names that are decent at best, and often pretty crappy at outrageous prices...in the hopes that someone will come along and pay far more for them than anyone in their right mind ever will.

Many of those domain names, going for $1000 and on up, have expired because their owners can't find GoDaddy coupon codes for renewals.

The point being that you can't accurately determine the value of a domain based on what other people are trying to sell their domains for, because an extremely high percentage of domain names never sell.

I used to look at domains listed at Sedo and wonder why some of them had gotten so many offers, and also predict my success by the number of offers they'd received. I later theorized that many of the offers were bogus and probably made with second accounts by the sellers, in an attempt to jack up their perceived values.

I believe there are 4 primary reasons domain names sell:

1) Because they're collectible, like in the case of 4-digit numbers. Most of these don't have any practical value and will remain parked, passed from hand to hand, and never point to a functional website. How many websites have you visited whose domain names were nothing but numbers?

It'll all be fine and well until some event brings about the end of the internet, in which case their final owners, who paid a bunch of money for them believing they could sell them again for a profit, won't be able to. So in a lot of ways it's like a pyramid scheme, mostly in that the person at the bottom is left holding something of no value that they paid a lot for, with no one else to pass it on to.

2) Because they're kind of cool. I've sold a lot of "kind of cool" domain names at ebay for $10 to $30, like RoswellReport.com, MarioGamer.com, WarNickel.com, equaVision.com...

3) Because in the future, they may be worth a lot, like in the case of drone and 420 names. Speculation, basically.

4) Because they can be used to make someone money right now. As in, someone running an online business.

Now days I only buy domain names that people will buy for reason #4. The reason being that these can be hand-registered for less than $5 and typically sold for $50, to maybe as much as $1000. And they can be sold right now, which means I don't have to come here and ask if anyone knows of any renewal codes, when there's no such thing.

Hope that helps.

 

[awei]

51513.com sold for 9,200$
458,000
50

17176.com sold for 55,000$
645,000
90

you guys may not understand the point of this 2

in chinese
51 reads close to "i want"
3 reads close to "get on, be in, go"
513 makes some sense for gaming

17 reads close to "together"
6 reads close to "happy"
so 176 means "get together and have fun"

but most of number domains dont have any value for end users
they are just domainers' domains