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The next wave of the competitive internet has arrrived, and it’s driven by the Domainers. No, not parked pages, and no, not typo squatters. Domainers as publishers.

If you’re in SEO and you haven’t met a domainer yet, you need to get out more. If you’re a web designer without a job, there’s likely a domainer-placed ad waiting for you. Infrastructure guys (PHP developers, server admins…) they want you, too. While domainers used to be bad for the web (all those ugly parked pages, all those probably-illegal typo domains, domain tasting and back-office pre-buying of expiring domains) now domainers are poised to drive the web publishing industry. Domainers are expected to be good for economic circulation too… they know what they want, and have the money to buy it. While some have criticized them for driving up the prices of aftermarket domains, they have the cash to go after web-based publishing in a serious way. Buy a domain, and publish on it to build a network of visitors. Yes, for the ads, but more importantly, for the media empire it builds.

Domainers are quick and decisive. Yes means now, and no means forget it. Literally. None of this web 2.0 get-the-transparent-logo-perfect stuff. They may be paying huge prices for domains, but oddly, pennies matter to these guys. I thinkit’s kinda like a franshisee who pays way to much to a franchise to “get in” but then has to scrape nickels to become profitable. I guess it’s a reflection of that decisiveness. It seems to work, no?
The best thing, which I admire the most about domainers, is the way this business model insulates against search engine efforts and market swings. Too dependent on type-in traffic? Worried about legal challenges to typo domains? Too much reliance on search rankings for traffic? Build a content network of mammoth proportions, and become a media player. Arbitrage while it works, community building when it matters, list building, lead generation, or heck even banner ads might make a come back. Wherever the money goes, you can go. It’s the same thing we’ve said for years, except when done over thousands of domains overnight, the word “mashup” starts to glow like it never did before.

Those who can read my mind might remember a post I half-wrote long ago… “where the real money is in SEO“. The real money is in the empire you build along the way as you SEO. Real SEO is execution on opportunity, which may exploit assets held (domains) but may also address traffic flow (redirection) or strategic market knowledge. Monetization. Working within the system, but along the edges. Competing.

Publishing is not for everyone. Conventional publishing is tough… it takes time, staffing.. but when you view it as a massive media building effort across thousands of domains, it scales a bit differently. Where the domainers are going, is where the good SEOs are now. Tools tools tools. Hack like it’s 1997, monetize robustly and watch the metrics. Don’t worry too much about the look… you can clean it up later.



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Interesting Take..
 
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I don't entirely agree with the point of view, especially since i believe in aesthetically well built sites which contribute to the marketability, positioning and brandability of a product/site. However, you have a VERY strong point when i look at the likes of just 2 of the most phenomenal sites out there: YouTube and MySpace. Both look horrible from a marketers standpoint, yet it might just be that simplicity and "i don't care what they look like" attitude that made them work. Which ties right back to what you said:
Don’t worry too much about the look… you can clean it up later.

Get your sites up, SEO them and generate traffic that you can bounce around in your own network of sites and THEN clean them up and make them look professional...
Something just "doesn't taste/look right" here, though....
 
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I like the article. Thanks it was a good read.
 
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"Build a content network of mammoth proportions, and become a media player". What are they trying to say? the content dosen't create by itself, you have to make it. The only fact that you own 100s of domain names dosen't make you any better then the rest of the world at building good content. A good domain name helps, but that is surely not the key. just my humble opinion..
 
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What does this article accomplish exactly? A circle-jerk for all the super domainers out there? I mean, yeah, if you have a few hundred awesome names of course you can turn them into published pages, produce your own content on them, get visitors and build a "media empire". Or you may be a total dipsh*t who owns a bunch of domains that no one wants to listen to. It irritates me to think that people will forgo a well built, functional, good looking site or business ventures because they have a bunch of domains. This is certainly the future, I am right there with you guys on that, but there are so many options available than just this...


If you’re in SEO and you haven’t met a domainer yet, you need to get out more.

Yeah...You need to actually get out more...
 
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Cool read
I am here I am not rich i just have a vision.
The site in my sig says those names are for sale

shhhhhhh dont tell anyone

Its actually a baby media empire
 
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You don't have to be

a big player for development to work. In my small world of developed sites which range from basic mini-sites to full blown hundreds of pages sites the profit margin is quite nice. Ten percent of my gross is allocated to purchase software and have content written. The renewal fees and hosting costs run about $10.00 per domain per year. That still leaves me a net of about 6X the renewal/hosting costs. None of this stable is 'typein' traffic type names. They are niche (many .info) sites which were, with one exception hand reg'd and developed by myself. I have only recently started buying original content.

Having been a believer in development from the beginning it does my heart good to see more 'domainers' promoting it. In todays world one doesn't have to be a programmer to build out names. Being a good content writer is more important (and my big handicap). Learning to use one of the CMS packages is not that difficult. I like Drupal but am thinking about taking a second look at the new version of Joomla.

I can only dream about what could be done with a bunch of top flight generic properties. My point here is that it is possible to develop a revenue stream without relying on parking. Don't get me wrong cause I park names also and sometimes it can pay better than small scale development.

I have yet to figure out how to make affiliate programs pay which is frustrating but I keep trying.

JMHO
 
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For development of a large number of domains, being a good content writer or atleast understanding what good content is far more important.
 
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Nice take on things. I generally have the development potential in mind when I reg a name, but sadly, I rarely take the time for development.

As for content, there are plenty of off the shelf scripts that let the users make the content for you once you get a start on it. Forums, social networking, photo sharing, and other things that are maybe not web 2.0, but like web 1.75. Most of the recent popular sites don't create content, they just put the tools and structure in place for others do do so. This includes YouTube, MySpace, Classmates, Yahoo, and the vast majority of popular non-product sites.
 
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From a newbie perspective (like myself) very interesting...thanks for the link!
 
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Interesting take on things. Good read indeed. Thanks :)
 
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I'm not too happy to see my entire post reproduced here, but I do appreciate the link and the discussion.

I'm an SEO and I also work for clients. As optimization goes, the "mashup" is very interesting. And as others have said, you don't need to write all of your content these days. Working for BigCorporations, I also see some interesting transactions in the traffic/ad buying arena that would be equally interesting to an SEO/Domainer.

Sorry if my perspective doesn't match yours, but I think that's the point. Much of what we seek in SEO world is achievable and can be very profitable. It has traditionally been done small scale... "mini nets" of 10 or 30 sites. But that's changed, and SEOs and domainers may be meeting in the middle one day soon.
 
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Interesting,

thanks for sharing!
 
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