"Hell yeah"

[liquidcherry]

http://www.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/asiapcf/07/03/nzealand.soul.ap/index.html?iref=mpstoryview



Cheers

Frank

 

[dgridley]

Hm.. I could use a few bucks myself.. tho I think I literally gave mine away years ago. (rummages thru closet)

 

[Achaias]

They could atleast buy him a plane ticket to come eat there. How else would he get to Hell?

 

[dgridley]

Hell, Michigan is alot closer to me.. :p

 

[Achaias]

Hmm I'll be about an hour north east of Hell, Mi this weekend...interesting.

 

[dgridley]

It's hotter than Hell in Carthage today .. 84 degrees vs 71 degrees in Hell, Michigan

 

[Compassion]

That guy should be more careful, he is lucky a pizza chain won his soul. The illuminists have been working on actual real soul transference since the days of Hitler alongside Spider Goats, Hupanzees and other hybrid creations.


Funny article. And yes Spider Goats and Hupanzees are just the tip of the iceberg.

 

[weblord]

i think he would get surprised if no one's inside Hell, hehe for they're all floating in the clouds.

 

[dgridley]

I think if we go by the classical Christian interpretation, most of us will be going to Hell... I can't imagine I'd be very good playing a harp or flying in thje clouds anyway.

 

[weblord]

no you won't turn into a cherubim you still Dave in a glorified body.
can go thru walls, will not starve

I think if we go by the classical Christian interpretation, most of us will be going to Hell... I can't imagine I'd be very good playing a harp or flying in thje clouds anyway.

 

[dgridley]

And I wonder, in the Christian view, what happens to all that die never having heard of Jesus (as millions do)?

no you won't turn into a cherubim you still Dave in a glorified body.
can go thru walls, will not starve

 

[weblord]

they go to the lake of fire but they're not such a thing as "never having heard of Jesus" end of the world as we know it will only happen when everyone's heard of the gospel.

it would be unfair for God to destroy everyone without giving them the chance to hear first.

might be more true, yeah they have heard but they have ignored.

And I wonder, in the Christian view, what happens to all that die never having heard of Jesus (as millions do)?

 

[dgridley]

That doesn't answer what happened to all those who died in ages past that never heard of Jesus.. I'm not disrespecting you, just that I see some flawed logic here. (And certainly not to turn this into a religious thread)

they go to the lake of fire but they're not such a thing as "never having heard of Jesus" end of the world as we know it will only happen when everyone's heard of the gospel.

it would be unfair for God to destroy everyone without giving them the chance to hear first.

might be more true, yeah they have heard but they have ignored.

 

[weblord]

there are things we don't know that God does, let Him do His part and we do the possible. as they say God does move in mysterious ways.

how about you? how many times have you heard the gospel? have you accepted the Lord?

it's up to people you see, God will make a move, a miracle we don't know of, what's important is if we have heard the gospel what do we do with it? only 2 choices ignore or accept.

I for one have heard it 1984 and I accepted Him as Lord and Personal Savior.
it's easy to ignore and reject, it's not actually a famous topic for people. actually the most ashamed of topic :lol:

disrespecting me does not matter but God does matter.

it times of Moses and the law, Jesus was not physically present to be their Saviour but God did made a move by giving an anti-type of Jesus the lamb, the sacrifices and the blood all pointed forward to the Lord, He's the Perfect Lamb that was slain, by the blood of Jesus demons of hell must flee, diseases will get healed, the sacrifices done to the lamb are typical of sacrifices of the Lord on the cross.

so it's all the gospel, about the Lord, even if the Lord was not physically present all thru adam until Malachi they pointed to the 4 Gospels for salvation, "looking forward" while us in this time, we're "looking backwards" what's done on the cross of calvary is our offered salvation to all of us in these present and future times.

now which is easier looking forward or looking backward? it all depends on the people that have misused "free will" as their trap for not accepting.

im not even talking about religion it's a different thing, it's man's move to reach for God, while God has provided the way it's "relationship" that matters not "religion"

That doesn't answer what happened to all those who died in ages past that never heard of Jesus.. I'm not disrespecting you, just that I see some flawed logic here. (And certainly not to turn this into a religious thread)

 

[dgridley]

I believe in God, but probably not the classical theology most believe. I don't believe God adheres to a single religion, for example.. I was raised Catholic and no longer adhere to the Catholic faith.

As I say, I have no intention of disrespecting your beliefs.. I just don't adhere to the same beliefs.

there are things we don't know that God does, let Him do His part and we do the possible. as they say God does move in mysterious ways.

how about you? how many times have you heard the gospel? have you accepted the Lord?

it's up to people you see, God will make a move, a miracle we don't know of, what's important is if we have heard the gospel what do we do with it? only 2 choices ignore or accept.

I for one have heard it 1984 and I accepted Him as Lord and Personal Savior.
it's easy to ignore and reject, it's not actually a famous topic for people. actually the most ashamed of topic :lol:

disrespecting me does not matter but God does matter.

 

[weblord]

mostly everyone here in the Philippines are born roman catholic, im a devout catholic since elementary and high school I never understood it I studied in roman catholic schools and have priests and nuns as my teachers.

Im talking about relationship with God not just beliefs, something that we believe in and practice at the same time.

God does not promote religion in any way but relationship.

it's with relationship with His only begotten Son who was made human for us, preached here on earth and died by roman crucifixion and after 3 days was raised from the dead. (that's the Gospel )

I believe in God, but probably not the classical theology most believe. I don't believe God adheres to a single religion, for example.. I was raised Catholic and no longer adhere to the Catholic faith.

As I say, I have no intention of disrespecting your beliefs.. I just don't adhere to the same beliefs.

no way i won't be offended if you reject what i believe, but i will be sad, sometimes i do

 

[dgridley]

Have you seen this?

http://www.iht.com/articles/2008/07/05/africa/06stone.php

My personal belief is Jesus would be absolutely shocked (and probably mortified) if he saw the belief system that has been built up around him since he walked the earth. I have a completely different viewpoint of Jesus.

BTW- I went to Catholic military school (there's an oxymoron if ever there was one)

 

[weblord]

what's it's all about btw?
can you summarize it for me?

yeah we do believe in the Bible alone as immutable Word of God and we won't watch porno movies or other movies like da vinci code anything that will degrade or make the Bible a lie to us.

Have you seen this?

http://www.iht.com/articles/2008/07/05/africa/06stone.php

My personal belief is Jesus would be absolutely shocked (and probably mortified) if he saw the belief system that has been built up around him since he walked the earth. I have a completely different viewpoint of Jesus.

BTW- I went to Catholic military school (there's an oxymoron if ever there was one)

it's good to know other beliefs you know for the sake of knowing it and not embracing it btw.

 

[dgridley]

I suggest you read it for yourself rather than have me give you the short version.

BTW- my belief is God gave man the reasoning and intelligence to question for a reason, that way we can come to have a relationship with him through intelligence and not "superstition" or "tradition". I beleive God exists empirically, not because the Bible tells me so.

BTW- this is part of what I believe (and believe it because it makes the most sense to me):

Monistic Idealism is a metaphysical concept which states that consciousness, not matter is the ground of all being. It is a monistic theory because it holds that there is only one type of thing in the universe, and a form of idealism because it holds that one thing to be consciousness. In India this concept is central to Vedanta philosophy.

Monistic idealism rejects any notion of consciousness being an "accident" or the mere side product of material interactions. Instead, consciousness comes before matter; it is the fundamental wellspring from which reality is created.

(from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monistic_idealism)

what's it's all about btw?
can you summarize it for me?

yeah we do believe in the Bible alone as immutable Word of God and we won't watch porno movies or other movies like da vinci code anything that will degrade or make the Bible a lie to us.




it's good to know other beliefs you know for the sake of knowing it and not embracing it btw.

 

[weblord]

relationship based on intelligence alone is not true relationship it's with the heart, you can talk to, you can feel and experience both of yourself and yes with emotions, if true relationship is possible with intelligence alone then there are successful online marriages, but for these to be successful they need to "see" each other feel each other as well.

the bible is not tradition it goes way beyond tradition, actually the pharisees and saducees in the days of the Lord are more traditionally inclined compared to the Lord, having their tradition stopped them from believing Jesus.

God does exist even if there's no bible , the Bible is God's Words to mankind.

whether you believe or don't believe the Bible as God's infallible Word then it continues to exist in the hearts (relationship) of men and women who do believe whether it makes sense or not.

but to put every other references on top of the bible as the authority reference about God and being spiritual is not my cup of tea.

now my question is have you read the bible? have you understood it with the mind, heart, intellect, and emotion? that's the way to read the Bible. the problem with people nowadays they're reading too much stuff just to excuse them from believing the Bible and will make the Bible weird and funny.

I suggest you read it for yourself rather than have me give you the short version.

BTW- my belief is God gave man the reasoning and intelligence to question for a reason, that way we can come to have a relationship with him through intelligence and not "superstition" or "tradition". I beleive God exists empirically, not because the Bible tells me so.

BTW- this is part of what I believe (and believe it because it makes the most sense to me):

Monistic Idealism is a metaphysical concept which states that consciousness, not matter is the ground of all being. It is a monistic theory because it holds that there is only one type of thing in the universe, and a form of idealism because it holds that one thing to be consciousness. In India this concept is central to Vedanta philosophy.

Monistic idealism rejects any notion of consciousness being an "accident" or the mere side product of material interactions. Instead, consciousness comes before matter; it is the fundamental wellspring from which reality is created.

(from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monistic_idealism)