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From DomainNameNews:
SnapNames User Name “Halvarez” Was Nelson Brady, VP of Engineering Bidding on Domain Names [Updated]
[Updated] According to a statement from Oversee.net’s SnapNames, an employee was found to have bid in 5% of their auctions since 2005 and in some cases arranged for a partial refund of the sales price after winning an auction. DNN also confirmed the bidder as Nelson Brady, the VP of Engineering. He was bidding under the username “halvarez”.

From Snapnames:
SnapNames User Name “Halvarez” Was Employee Bidding on Domain Names
To avoid any question about whether the company benefited from this conduct, SnapNames will offer a rebate to impacted customers, including 5.22% interest (the highest applicable federal rate during the affected time period), of the difference between the prices they paid in winning auctions, and the prices they would have paid had the employee not bid in the auctions. Impacted customers will be notified by SnapNames or its representative with instructions for the offer of a rebate.

SnapNames also has taken further action to ensure its policies regarding auctions are followed, and the company remains committed to taking whatever action is necessary to protect the integrity of its auction platform.

SnapNames deeply regrets this situation and is committed to addressing its customers’ needs quickly and fairly.

There's also a FAQ page at Snapnames
 
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Have we confirmed that the following "people" are real?

Vaxis
Smarty
SaggyNickels
SaggyDimes
HipHop
GoldCreek
DomainLink
Bum
BonkersTwo
Bonkers
Blogger
Biz
Bigmooli
BenFranklin
asdf

These are the ones to whom I lost the majority of my domains auction.

I think we need to all "Claim" our "anonymous" titles... and then see who is not real.

Anyone working on this???

by the way kudos to oversee for providing ALL auction info (now appears to be available).

Yep those names were on my auction>:(
 
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It would seem that there are a number of suspicious accounts being identified, obviously some of them will likely turn out to be genuine bidding accounts, but by the same token some of them will likely turn out not to be. This now raises the stakes. Remember that Oversee brought in RUST and assured us all that this was just one rogue account setup and run by one rogue employee (all be it a VP of the company). It now seems that this statement was not truthful.

Another, and perhaps even more worrying revelation that seems to have occurred is that of payback on selling price by SnapNames to Nelson. It is clearly stated that Nelson credited himself after an auction. How could this be? The wording does not say that this was unusual and as such it would seem laudable that others must also be getting credited when winning an auction! This then begs the following questions:

1) Who else has been getting these credits?
2) What domain names were won by those getting these credits?
3) What was the value of these domain name sales?
4) What was the amount of the credits?
5) Who negotiated these credits on behalf of SnapNames/Oversee?
6) Who authorised these credit arrangements on behalf of SnapNames/Oversee?
7) Who sanctioned these individual credits for payment after each auction for SnapNames/Oversee?
8) When were these crediting arrangements first initiated?
9) When did these crediting arrangments cease? (If they ever have ceased.)
10) Have the winners of domain names and receiving a credit disclosed such credits on the tax returns? (Federal offence for federal taxes.)
11) What compensation has been offered to losing second highest bidders for not winning the domain?
12) Why have Oversee not brought charges against those who organised and took part in this unlawful and doubtless criminal acts?
13) Was Oversee aware of these credit arrangements being in place when they purchased SnapNames?

The 'dirty bomb' effect is starting to materialize, imagine a large company buying domains and receiving a kick-back (for that is what it would be), that company will have its records gone through with a fine toothed comb by Federal and State agencies. Suddenly the parking revenue will be investigated from the domain portfolio, and in court this will all be public, the evidence put out for all to examine. One wonders just what companies and individuals will be left untarnished.
 
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Im sure the Domain Parking/PPC industry is 100% Legit No Scams going on there either, Thank Goodness :]
 
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It has been mentioned in several posts here and on DNF that Halvarez / Nelson seemed to have either sold or monetized the domains he won. To sell, he would have had to go through escrow for payment, and you can't just do that with a fake ID. Even more puzzling is that to monetize via parking and PPC he would have had to provide the IRS / tax info. that the parking companies require before issuing any payment.

So how did he pull this off? I couldn't even get $25 parking revenue without completing the tax witholding forms. Surely the IRS would interested in this too, as well as the matter of the income from domain sales...
 
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IRS and FBI is the only choice for this disgusting FRAUD!

This is not a one man JOB!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
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I have not been directly affected by this but I am angry just like all of you. So I did some digging (like to think of my self as an ametuer investigator, very ametuer) and I found this Hallelujah Acres, Inc. v. Domainqueue c/o Domain Admin So if Neil and Domainqueue are one in the same it seems that this is proof of at least more cyber squatting. Interestingly the case refrenced does not refer to Domainqueue or whoever owns it by name only as a company.

Its a long read but might be worth it

national arbitration forum

DECISION


Hallelujah Acres, Inc. v. Domainqueue c/o Domain Admin

Claim Number: FA0509000558207



PARTIES
Complainant is Hallelujah Acres, Inc. (“Complainant”), represented by Neil M. Batavia of Dority & Manning, Post Office Box 1449, Greenville, SC, 29602-1449. Respondent is Domainqueue c/o Domain Admin (“Respondent”), 2346 NW Clarion Suite 303, New City, NY, 10956.



REGISTRAR AND DISPUTED DOMAIN NAME

The domain name at issue is <hallelujahacres.com>, registered with Vivid Domains, Inc.



PANEL
The undersigned certifies that she has acted independently and impartially and that to the best of her knowledge she has no known conflict in serving as Panelist in this proceeding. Hon. Carolyn Marks Johnson sits as Panelist.



PROCEDURAL HISTORY
Complainant submitted a Complaint to the National Arbitration Forum electronically September 9, 2005; the National Arbitration Forum received a hard copy of the Complaint September 13, 2005.



On September 16, 2005, Vivid Domains, Inc confirmed by e-mail to the National Arbitration Forum that the <hallelujahacres.com> domain name is registered with Vivid Domains, Inc and that Respondent is the current registrant of the name. Vivid Domains, Inc verified that Respondent is bound by the Vivid Domains, Inc registration agreement and thereby has agreed to resolve domain-name disputes brought by third parties in accordance with ICANN's Uniform Domain Name Dispute Resolution Policy (the "Policy").



On September 19, 2005, a Notification of Complaint and Commencement of Administrative Proceeding (the "Commencement Notification"), setting a deadline of October 10, 2005, by which Respondent could file a response to the Complaint, was transmitted to Respondent via e-mail, post and fax, to all entities and persons listed on Respondent's registration as technical, administrative and billing contacts, and to [email protected] by e-mail.



Having received no response from Respondent, the National Arbitration Forum transmitted to the parties a Notification of Respondent Default.



On October 17, 2005, pursuant to Complainant's request to have the dispute decided by a single-member Panel, the National Arbitration Forum appointed Hon. Carolyn Marks Johnson as Panelist.



Having reviewed the communications records, the Administrative Panel (the "Panel") finds that the National Arbitration Forum discharged its responsibility under Paragraph 2(a) of the Rules for Uniform Domain Name Dispute Resolution Policy (the "Rules") "to employ reasonably available means calculated to achieve actual notice to Respondent." Therefore, the Panel may issue its decision based on the documents submitted and in accordance with the ICANN Policy, ICANN Rules, the National Arbitration Forum's Supplemental Rules and any rules and principles of law that the Panel deems applicable, without the benefit of any response from Respondent.



RELIEF SOUGHT
Complainant requests that the domain name be transferred from Respondent to Complainant.



PARTIES' CONTENTIONS
A. Complainant makes the following assertions:



1. The domain name that Respondent registered, <hallelujahacres.com>, is identical to Complainant’s HALLELUJAH ACRES mark.



2. Respondent has no rights to or legitimate interests in the <hallelujahacres.com> domain name.



3. Respondent registered and used the <hallelujahacres.com> domain name in bad faith.



B. Respondent failed to submit a Response in this proceeding.



FINDINGS
Complainant, Hallelujah Acres, Inc., provides education, products, services and other resources to assist people in improving health. Complainant holds a registration with the United States Patent and Trademark Office (“USPTO”) for the HALLELUJAH ACRES mark (Reg. No. 2,077,460 issued July 8, 1997). Complainant began using the mark in 1989 in association with goods and services relating to books and newletters dealing with health, nutrition and biblical information.



Complainant also operates a website at the <hacres.com> domain name, which it registered on June 11, 1997.



Respondent registered the <hallelujahacres.com> domain name August 31, 2005. The domain name resolves to a website that displays links to various third-party websites offering products and services that compete with those of Complainant.



DISCUSSION
Paragraph 15(a) of the Rules instructs this Panel to "decide a complaint on the basis of the statements and documents submitted in accordance with the Policy, these Rules and any rules and principles of law that it deems applicable."



In view of Respondent's failure to submit a response, the Panel shall decide this administrative proceeding on the basis of Complainant's undisputed representations pursuant to paragraphs 5(e), 14(a) and 15(a) of the Rules and will draw such inferences as the Panel considers appropriate pursuant to paragraph 14(b) of the Rules. The Panel is entitled to accept all reasonable allegations and inferences set forth in the Complaint as true unless the evidence is clearly contradictory. See Vertical Solutions Mgmt., Inc. v. webnet-marketing, inc., FA 95095 (Nat. Arb. Forum July 31, 2000) (holding that the respondent’s failure to respond allows all reasonable inferences of fact in the allegations of the complaint to be deemed true); see also Talk City, Inc. v. Robertson, D2000-0009 (WIPO Feb. 29, 2000) (“In the absence of a response, it is appropriate to accept as true all allegations of the Complaint.”).



Paragraph 4(a) of the Policy requires Complainant to prove each of the following three elements to obtain an order that a domain name should be cancelled or transferred:



(1) the domain name registered by Respondent is identical or confusingly similar to a trademark or service mark in which Complainant has rights; and

(2) Respondent has no rights or legitimate interests in respect of the domain name; and

(3) the domain name has been registered and is being used in bad faith.



Identical to and/or Confusingly Similar


Complainant established using extrinsic proof in this proceeding that it has rights in the HALLELUJAH ACRES mark by registering the mark with the USPTO. See Innomed Techs., Inc. v. DRP Servs., FA 221171 (Nat. Arb. Forum Feb. 18, 2004) (“Registration of the NASAL-AIRE mark with the USPTO establishes Complainant's rights in the mark.”); see also Vivendi Universal Games v. XBNetVentures Inc., FA 198803 (Nat. Arb. Forum Nov. 11, 2003) (“Complainant's federal trademark registrations establish Complainant's rights in the BLIZZARD mark.”).



The <hallelujahacres.com> domain name is comprised of Complainant’s entire HALLELUJAH ACRES mark and the generic top-level domain name (“gTLD”) “.com.” The addition of a gTLD is irrelevant in determining similarity under Policy ¶ 4(a)(i), because domain name registrants are required to add a gTLD or its equivalent to register a domain name. Thus, because the gTLD is the only difference between the domain name and the mark, the Panel finds that the disputed domain name is identical to Complainant’s mark. See Busy Body, Inc. v. Fitness Outlet Inc., D2000-0127 (WIPO Apr. 22, 2000) (finding that "the addition of the generic top-level domain (gTLD) name ‘.com’ is . . . without legal significance since use of a gTLD is required of domain name registrants"); see also Gardline Surveys Ltd. v. Domain Fin. Ltd., FA 153545 (Nat. Arb. Forum May 27, 2003) (“The addition of a top-level domain is irrelevant when establishing whether or not a mark is identical or confusingly similar, because top-level domains are a required element of every domain name.”).



Thus, the Panel finds that Complainant satisfied Policy ¶ 4(a)(i).



Rights to or Legitimate Interests


The Policy requires Complainant to satisfy the initial burden of proving that it has rights and that Respondent lacks rights to and legitimate interests in the disputed domain name. In Compagnie Generale des Matieres Nucleaires v. Greenpeace Int’l, D2001-0376 (WIPO May 14, 2001), the panel held:



Proving that the Respondent has no rights or legitimate interests in respect of the Domain Name requires the Complainant to prove a negative. For the purposes of this sub paragraph, however, it is sufficient for the Complainant to show a prima facie case and the burden of proof is then shifted on to the shoulders of Respondent. In those circumstances, the common approach is for respondents to seek to bring themselves within one of the examples of paragraph 4(c) or put forward some other reason why they can fairly be said to have a relevant right or legitimate interests in respect of the domain name in question.



Id.; see also Do The Hustle, LLC v. Tropic Web, D2000-0624 (WIPO Aug. 21, 2000) (holding that where the complainant has asserted that the respondent has no rights or legitimate interests with respect to the domain name it is incumbent on the respondent to come forward with concrete evidence rebutting this assertion because this information is “uniquely within the knowledge and control of the respondent”). Having found that Complainant has met its initial burden by establishing a prima facie case, the Panel will now analyze whether Respondent has met its burden to establish rights or legitimate interests in the disputed domain name under Policy ¶ 4(c).



Complainant argues that Respondent is not commonly known by the <hallelujahacres.com> domain name and that this is evidenced by the fact that Respondent is identified as “Domainqueue” in the WHOIS information for the disputed domain name. Respondent failed to respond and has, therefore, not contested Complainant’s assertions. The Panel, therefore, accepts Complainant’s contentions and finds that Respondent has not established rights or legitimate interests in the disputed domain name pursuant to Policy ¶ 4(c)(ii). See Am. W. Airlines, Inc. v. Paik, FA 206396 (Nat. Arb. Forum Dec. 22, 2003) (“Respondent has registered the domain name under the name ‘Ilyoup Paik a/k/a David Sanders.’ Given the WHOIS domain name registration information, Respondent is not commonly known by the [<awvacations.com>] domain name.”); see also RMO, Inc. v. Burbridge, FA 96949 (Nat. Arb. Forum May 16, 2001) (interpreting Policy ¶ 4(c)(ii) "to require a showing that one has been commonly known by the domain name prior to registration of the domain name to prevail"); see also Am. Express Co. v. Fang Suhendro, FA 129120 (Nat. Arb. Forum Dec. 30, 2002) (“ased on Respondent's failure to respond, it is presumed that Respondent lacks all rights and legitimate interests in the disputed domain name.”).



Additionally, Complainant asserts that Respondent is using the <hallelujahacres.com> domain name to operate a website that displays links to third-party websites related to health and nutrition, some of which are in direct competition with Complainant. The Panel infers that Respondent benefits from diverting Internet users to these third-party websites by earning click-through fees for those users directed via Respondent’s website at the disputed domain name. Respondent cannot establish rights or legitimate interests under Policy ¶ 4(c)(i) or ¶ 4(c)(ii) by using Complainant’s mark to attract Internet users to Respondent’s commercial website. See Bank of Am. Corp. v. Nw. Free Cmty. Access, FA 180704 (Nat. Arb. Forum Sept. 30, 2003) (“Respondent's demonstrated intent to divert Internet users seeking Complainant's website to a website of Respondent and for Respondent's benefit is not a bona fide offering of goods or services under Policy ¶ 4(c)(i) and it is not a legitimate noncommercial or fair use under Policy ¶ 4(c)(iii).”); see also WeddingChannel.com Inc. v. Vasiliev, FA 156716 (Nat. Arb. Forum June 12, 2003) (finding that the respondent’s use of the disputed domain name to redirect Internet users to websites unrelated to the complainant’s mark, websites where the respondent presumably receives a referral fee for each misdirected Internet user, was not a bona fide offering of goods or services as contemplated by the Policy).



Accordingly, the Panel finds that Complainant satisfied Policy ¶ 4(a)(ii).



Registration and Use in Bad Faith


Complainant urges that Respondent is using the <hallelujahacres.com> domain name for a website that links to products and services that compete with those of Complainant. The Panel infers that Respondent receives referral fees for forwarding Internet users interested in Complainant’s products and services to competitors’ websites. Respondent’s use of Complainant’s HALLELUJAH ACRES mark in the domain name creates a likelihood of confusion and suggests an attempt to attract Internet users to Respondent’s commercial website. The Panel finds that this is sufficient evidence of bad faith registration and use under Policy ¶ 4(b)(iv). See CMG Worldwide, Inc. v. Lombardi, FA 95966 (Nat. Arb. Forum Jan. 12, 2001) (finding that the respondent’s use of the complainant’s VINCE LOMBARDI mark to divert Internet users to its commercial website located at the <vincelombardi.com> domain name constituted bad faith use and registration of the disputed domain name); see also Drs. Foster & Smith, Inc. v. Lalli, FA 95284 (Nat. Arb. Forum Aug. 21, 2000) (finding bad faith where the respondent directed Internet users seeking the complainant’s site to its own website for commercial gain); see also G.D. Searle & Co. v. Celebrex Drugstore, FA 123933 (Nat. Arb. Forum Nov. 21, 2002) (finding that the respondent registered and used the domain name in bad faith pursuant to Policy ¶ 4(b)(iv) because the respondent was using the confusingly similar domain name to attract Internet users to its commercial website).



Furthermore, Respondent had constructive notice of Complainant’s rights in the HALLELUJAH ACRES mark due to Complainant’s registration of the mark with the USPTO. See Orange Glo Int’l v. Blume, FA 118313 (Nat. Arb. Forum Oct. 4, 2002) (“Complainant’s OXICLEAN mark is listed on the Principal Register of the USPTO, a status that confers constructive notice on those seeking to register or use the mark or any confusingly similar variation thereof.”). In addition, Respondent’s use of a domain name identical to Complainant’s mark to operate a website that links to third parties in competition with Complainant suggests that Respondent had actual knowledge of Complainant’s rights in the mark. See Pfizer, Inc. v. Suger, D2002-0187 (WIPO Apr. 24, 2002) (finding that because the link between the complainant’s mark and the content advertised on the respondent’s website was obvious, the respondent “must have known about the Complainant’s mark when it registered the subject domain name”). Respondent’s registration of a domain name incorporating Complainant’s mark with actual or constructive knowledge of Complainant’s rights in the mark is evidence of bad faith registration and user under Policy ¶ 4(a)(iii). See Samsonite Corp. v. Colony Holding, FA 94313 (Nat. Arb. Forum Apr. 17, 2000) (finding that evidence of bad faith includes actual or constructive knowledge of a commonly known mark at the time of registration); see also Digi Int’l v. DDI Sys., FA 124506 (Nat. Arb. Forum Oct. 24, 2002) (“[T]here is a legal presumption of bad faith, when Respondent reasonably should have been aware of Complainant’s trademarks, actually or constructively.”).



Consequently, the Panel finds that Complainant satisfied Policy ¶ 4(a)(iii).



DECISION
Having established all three elements required under the ICANN Policy, the Panel concludes that relief shall be GRANTED.



Accordingly, it is Ordered that the <hallelujahacres.com> domain name be TRANSFERRED from Respondent to Complainant.





Hon. Carolyn Marks Johnson, Panelist

Dated: October 31, 2005.
 
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Scott? Any thoughts?

---------- Post added 11-08-2009 at 12:01 AM ---------- Previous post was 11-07-2009 at 11:50 PM ----------

When i submitted names to Snapnames/Moniker Auctions there would be someone (alias/email) asking to buy the domain (knowing your reserve) within a day or two on selected domains during the selection period?

Did this happen to any one else ??
 
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What a mess!

If it is Contained with just Nelson Brady's Rorts, Oversee are doing a spectacular job managing it and i genuinely hope things work out positively for them....

IF it is a wider industry issue....there is More to come as people save themselves :guilty: from possible prosecution.

Is there more to come?...the Blogosphere is alive with the possibility of this spreading across multiple domaining platforms...

Snapnames/Moniker/Oversee all provide EXCELLENT services "IF" it was Just Nelson Brady involved in this deception :imho:

Why Didnt Anyone @snapnames Listen to all The Many Public WARNINGS about Halvarez and apply basic customer sign up procedures to check why/WHO this fellow was & obviously in the top 5% of bidders on snapnames? AND YOU DEFENDED HIM REPEATEDLY :sick:

You Could NOT have Known_\|/_'s

Sorry just Venting :|
 
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You Could NOT have Known_\|/_'s

Sorry just Venting :|

---------- Post added at 01:27 AM ---------- Previous post was at 01:09 AM ----------
 
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Fortunately my personal loss from this mess was small so I need to do some checks and confirm the Rust calculation is accurate and I might just take the token reimbursement. I've only been domaining about four years and my first year I didn't really get into domain auctions. In the last year I 've been less active in auctions in general due to the need to focus on revenue rather than costly acquisitions. But this certainly is the industry story of Q4 2009... We don't know the full story yet so I'm not rooting against Snapnames. They have been a valuable source of domains. I would hate to see them just disappear. But this will cripple them at least temporarily.
 
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It look likes this Alvarez was in most auctions.
I'm wondering how historical big bidders never noticed this before.
Looks crazy.
 
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It has been mentioned in several posts here and on DNF that Halvarez / Nelson seemed to have either sold or monetized the domains he won. To sell, he would have had to go through escrow for payment, and you can't just do that with a fake ID. Even more puzzling is that to monetize via parking and PPC he would have had to provide the IRS / tax info. that the parking companies require before issuing any payment.

So how did he pull this off? I couldn't even get $25 parking revenue without completing the tax witholding forms. Surely the IRS would interested in this too, as well as the matter of the income from domain sales...

Once he has moved the domains away from Oversee companies then he does not really need to hide anything to be honest. Either that if they stayed he could have simply done this using a friends name or a family members name.
 
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buydomains will be owed Millions.
I found seveal names from halvarez at Dsponsor owned obscure subsidiaries...eg portfolio brains.
DOes anybody has alist of all Dsponsor registras previosuly used fro domain tasting, kind of dum using adrsses within 2 blocks in LA of the corproate adress.
 
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IF it is a wider industry issue....there is More to come as people save themselves :guilty: from possible prosecution.

Is there more to come?...the Blogosphere is alive with the possibility of this spreading across multiple domaining platforms...

Snapnames/Moniker/Oversee all provide EXCELLENT services "IF" it was Just Nelson Brady involved in this deception :imho:

I think this is almost definitely not isolated to Snapnames. I really wouldn't be surprised if other companies knew of similar issues on their systems and were awaiting anyone else coming clean and see the outcome. Lets face it the 2nd company will get an easier ride as people now know it has been going on.

Why Didnt Anyone @snapnames Listen to all The Many Public WARNINGS about Halvarez and apply basic customer sign up procedures to check why/WHO this fellow was & obviously in the top 5% of bidders on snapnames? AND YOU DEFENDED HIM REPEATEDLY :sick:

You Could NOT have Known_\|/_'s

It is quite possible that when these reports came in they asked Nelson to look into the allegations. He was the VP of Engineering and would have been in charge of the development team. People in other departments may not have been in a position to actually look into the matter properly. Nelson when asked to look into it would of course said that it was impossible or didn't go on. I would suggest that even if no one else within Snap were involved some would have at least known about it.

There are 2 possibilities that I can think of on what happened.

  1. He put his bot code within the Snap code
  2. His bot code had access to the Snap database

If the bot code was within Snaps code then you would expect the developers to have come across this code at some point.

If his bot code had access to the snap database why did it have access? It obviously had knowledge of how much people had proxy bid.

Until things move on we are not going to understand how he went about this until possibly we find out how he was caught.
 
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Im sure the Domain Parking/PPC industry is 100% Legit No Scams going on there either, Thank Goodness :]

:lol:
 
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Sometimes in life we get to see the sordid underbelly of a corrupt business.


The full extent of the corruption in the Oversee/Snapnames business has yet to be exposed - but observed experience of organisations that have gone astray says that the place was rotten to the core.


What we have here is organised, systemic, fraud - emanating from the inner heart of the very systems that drove the Snapnames business model.


No ONE employee, acting alone - no matter how senior, no matter how embedded, no matter how integral to the design & maintenance of the tech operations - could have sustained and concealed a fraud involving thousands of separate auctions & transactions - and millions of dollars - over many years - without discovery, if the organisation, as a whole, was in any way committed to the concept of integrity.

...Rigorous system checks, dual & triple level verification procedures, random process audits, sensitive antennae tuned into market & customer feedback etc etc, would have combined to expose this kind of dishonest dealing within days of an attempt being made.


That didn't happen. For years. These were smart people. With top-class resources available to them. This organisation was apparently deaf and blind. This organisation willfully and arrogantly ignored any and all the signs and sounds of suspicious behaviour. This organisation apparently missed every red flag in the game....


There's only one logical explanation.


It looks like a deliberate, management-wide, scam, imo - not saying it was, we don't know - but, if so, most probably designed to inflate the total value of Snapnames, for resale.
 
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Couldn't have put it better.

It does raise some serious questions for the company as a whole. I am currently building a project with a auction system and through development I can see so many places that would trigger alerts if such a thing happened.

The alerts (red flags) would be raised at various levels, so as you said, hiding them would be near impossible. Keeping them quiet and from public eye, is another matter. But at some point, with so many occurrences, its unbelievable to think that this was not known by other people from the inside.


By the way, any news on the other suspected account? I think it was JMJ that mentioned something about "siner"... any one else come across this?

Sometimes in life we get to see the sordid underbelly of a corrupt business.


The full extent of the corruption in the Oversee/Snapnames business has yet to be exposed - but observed experience of organisations that have gone astray says that the place was rotten to the core.


What we have here is organised, systemic, fraud - emanating from the inner heart of the very systems that drove the Snapnames business model.


No ONE employee, acting alone - no matter how senior, no matter how embedded, no matter how integral to the design & maintenance of the tech operations - could have sustained and concealed a fraud involving thousands of separate auctions & transactions - and millions of dollars - over many years - without discovery, if the organisation, as a whole, was in any way committed to the concept of integrity.

...Rigorous system checks, dual & triple level verification procedures, random process audits, sensitive antennae tuned into market & customer feedback etc etc, would have combined to expose this kind of dishonest dealing within days of an attempt being made.


That didn't happen. For years. These were smart people. With top-class resources available to them. This organisation was apparently deaf and blind. This organisation willfully and arrogantly ignored any and all the signs and sounds of suspicious behaviour. This organisation apparently missed every red flag in the game....


There's only one explanation.


These people at Snapnames were running a scam - from top to bottom.


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I think that the plaintiffs should hire domain talker for the opening address to the court!

Nicely put, if i was the defence i would be shaking in my boots after that.
 
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I think what is not being realized here is that the person who basically built the entire system, and the person who would have been in charge of all checks etc is the one who is accused of the fraudulent bidding.

It's very easy to sit here retrospectively picking apart what could have been done, but when a key person like Nelson who had the trust of the company and clients is the one who abuses that trust, there is little that can be done. If this is something you don't understand, you simply haven't been in business long enough to know how things work in the real world.

At the end of the day this will be sorted out, not everyone will be happy with the results I'm sure, but life & business will go forward. This is a young industry and issues like this will continue to happen and will continue to be exposed as it grows and starts to self regulate. What has to happen now though, is that people have to settle down, grow up, learn from this, and ultimately get back to business.

The fact that there are veiled threats of violence in this thread, and that the mods are allowing some of thing things that have been posted in this thread to remain is very hypocritical and dangerous. A few blogs have received posts containing death threats against Nelson's kids even. The community reaction to this is getting out of hand, fanned by a few key loose cannons, don't contribute to the hysteria, you won't like where it ends.
 
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The fact that there are veiled threats of violence in this thread, and that the mods are allowing some of thing things that have been posted in this thread to remain is very hypocritical and dangerous. A few blogs have received posts containing death threats against Nelson's kids even. The community reaction to this is getting out of hand, fanned by a few key loose cannons, don't contribute to the hysteria, you won't like where it ends.

I haven't read the entire thread and haven't noticed any threats as such (maybe a few prison jokes) but if that's the case, especially with the violence/hate toward his family that that really is disgusting.
 
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Snapnames was an organized fraud.

Nelson told me on the weekend he was being acquired by Oversee that there were many unpaid accounts at Snapnames. Now, I know what it means. These were fake accounts Nelson and the partner registrars setup to bid on credit. He let them through into the system. The only way to fight organized crime is to organize ourselves.

File a complaint with the FTC. If enough complaints are filed, they will hunt down Snapnames and take out the entire operation. It took me just 5 minutes to file my complaint:kickass:.

https://www.ftccomplaintassistant.gov/FTC_Wizard.aspx?Lang=en
 
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I have not been directly affected by this but I am angry just like all of you. So I did some digging (like to think of my self as an ametuer investigator, very ametuer) and I found this Hallelujah Acres, Inc. v. Domainqueue c/o Domain Admin So if Neil and Domainqueue are one in the same it seems that this is proof of at least more cyber squatting. Interestingly the case refrenced does not refer to Domainqueue or whoever owns it by name only as a company.

Its a long read but might be worth it.

I remember when this domain dropped, I wondered how long the new owner would be able to hold onto it as H Acres is pretty well know in some "health" circles, now I know!
 
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