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[JMJ]

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[IAmAllanShore]

I'm leaving it up to you, but if you want this to serve as effective notice, it would be better placed in the "warnings and alerts" forum.

1) Because this forum is not indexed by search engines, anyone doing their own due diligence and checking on a domain name before purchasing would not see this post.

2) This seems more like a warning/alert in nature, unless you are seeking advice/information on how to handle a situation that you provide no details for.

You can reply here either way.

-Allan

 

[kev]

whats up with these domains? i have dealt with greg lasrado before

 

[JMJ]

Yes if you will please move it.

 

[IAmAllanShore]

Moved.

And on a purely personal interest note at this point, these domains are "stolen" or "ill gotten"

Will understand that you probably prefer not to say at this point, but once it settles down, explanations are always nice so we don't just have random "name dropping" running amok

Best of luck,
-Allan :gl:

 

[JMJ]

All I will say at this moment is a few months ago a dear friend made this comment to me. "Watch your back." I'll listen to my dear friends advice more often.

 

[Broker]

Seems alot of those domains are for sale via sedo or pools secondary market?

 

[namemojo]

There are always two sides to a story. You can’t just come out and state something without facts John. So we thought we would tell our side. As we still cannot understand what you are trying to claim.....we are only answering your malicious comments here because this is what you have chosen, but don’t be mistaken into thinking this is it, all your emails, and accusations have been handed onto our lawyers, and in time I am sure the truth will come out.

You have made threats to us that you would maliciously hurt our company through posting on boards and you would make it impossible for us to trade in the domain industry, if we don’t give you some domains. I call this COMMERCIAL BLACKMAIL. And it is unwarranted as you do not have a legitimate commercial reason to make such claims and attacks on our company and the people who work for it. As no outcome has been determined by a court of law. Threatening emails and icq messages are just childish if you have a legitimate argument then please fight it through the necessary avenues available to you legally.

What is your problem. Your accusations to discredit our company have no reason behind them. You are attempting to blackmail us into handing over a few domains that we have paid for and own 100%. We are only new to the business but no business should be conducted this way. This is simply you bullying a new company in the industry who does not have the experience or know how of what goes on as we have found out allot of things you have told us are untrue and things can be done differently. Although that is our problem for being so green and naive when it comes to domains...

This has not been appreciated. It is interesting that you have stated that these domains are involved in a legal dispute. As far as I am aware there have been no legal moves instigated at this time by yourself or your company. Which begs the question why would you say there are.

On what basis are you making these allegations, and What claim do you have to these domains? Is this simply so you can rally our friends to side with you. That is a weird business tactic for someone who has been around for so long. I thought you would handle this like a man. Not a boy who has had his bat and ball taken.

Your being desperate for money brought all this to a halt, as You stated that you were going to JAIL for non-payment of child
support and issues with your ex wife, so you wanted to sell our domains at ridiculous prices in order to raise money. We would not entertain this as if domains where to be sold then it would be when the projects you started where completed so we had a platform in order to sell domains from and so that we could get a reasonable ROI. And only then would we seriously look at selling any of our domains. You were free to sell your names if you wanted but we wanted to wait for the completion of the projects we started with you.

During this time together while waiting for these projects to be complete, you have continued with your own business of selling domains and brokering domains of which you are very good at from what I hear. We have also sold a few of our premium names to people, although we were holding off doing anything major till at least one of the projects were complete.

From the start you said you are known for discount selling and bulk selling and it will be good to sell domains within a different market.

You said it would be good for a new face on the block, this is why you wanted to join us plus we had the funds to set up the environment in which you described to us and it would be beneficial for us all to be selling domains under this...

You went as far as saying you were just about to advertise locally for someone to come in and back such a project. We were all happy to have met at this time.

You started developing these new platforms with the scripts you had us purchase. We were to fund all costs of developing this new platform, in return you were to share some of your expertise and knowledge with us.

This is exactly what we started to do with you. As we were very new to this industry and you were to help us with questions etc. Other people have also done this for us so and we are very grateful for this, yet they have not demanded domains or monetary payouts. All of the people to date that we have met have been very kind and open to share ideas This has been a great experience with this being the only blemish.

Yes you were very helpful at times when we had basic questions of where to register names and you also assisted us in ideas of what names to buy at times, although we made the final decision on what we purchased out of the lists you made available to us and the lists that registrars have sent us, Why do you now have claim to the domains we registered.

As on many occasions we did not go ahead with your suggestions and instead registered domains that others suggested.....and that’s exactly what they were....suggestions from you and others, if you wanted them why didn’t you go ahead and register them for yourself, as we were registering hundreds and hundreds of other names of our own choosing and ones that others in the industry where kind enough to give us ideas on.

You don’t see the domain companies who sent us lists of domains now asking for the domains we purchased. Just today another list of available mobi domains was sent to us from a very large domain company. We will pick and choose what we want and register those although I don’t expect the likes of this company to come back to us in a few months and say they want those domains back because they sent us a list it was up to us if we wanted to register them.

There are heaps of people who provide lists on these boards, You don’t see them going back to the people who take the opportunity and register what is there at the time. This does not make sense. sure sometimes donations are made, although we were funding the scripts and other things you were building. So I feel we also gave you opportunity - this seems fair us. We put not only our time, but our money into this also. You only risked time. And from the beginning you knew this was the deal.

You even stated it at one time saying you were fortunate enough because you have your own business that you can take risks like this as sometimes the rewards can be great. But if it doesn’t work then time is only lost. you were fortunate as we funded every last thing.

Also John you decided to put some of your domains into a pool with what we purchased and we were to sell these names together under the new programs that you were developing and we were paying for. Then suddenly a few weeks ago when you needed money and you took your domains out and started to sell your own domains to raise funds for your personal problems. You did not even tell us of this at first. We trusted you with our passwords and usernames as you needed access to certain things.

At this point we took our working with you to be over as there was now no asset input from you plus you were very erratic with your behavior and this worried us as we had invested quite a bit for us into this project so far. We accepted that the time we had also put in was lost. But that is business, we did not come running to you demanding that you cover our time. Did we.

You purchased with our money several other scripts that would compliment these environments you were to develop, yet nothing is up and finalized. You have the scripts in your possession you have not even given these back. These are ours we paid for them. They were licensed to our company.

It was just a matter of time before we completed things although you had no time now to finish what was stared. As your personal issues now demanded your undivided attention. So the deal was broken and we all lost our time we put in.

It was a shame your personal financial situation made it so you could not continue to work with us. As the end goal would have been worth the effort. There are other people involved in this and we are all waiting on finished products which we will now have to outsource which is what we suggested to you from the start so as to get to a point a lot quicker. You insisted that you had the knowledge and expertise to get this all running, and whatever you asked for we paid for. We never hesitated on your requests for the scripts or accounts that you needed in order to get this project finished. We all played a role in doing what was needed.

So I ask you why.....John, do you now feel that you have been hard done by. If you had stuck by things and finished what you started then we could have all made some money in the end. We did not complain when you wanted to take your domains and go, but we were not going to let you take our domains that we had purchased, no matter if you had advised these domains or not. They are ours and that is final, and we can do with them what we want. It was your choice to stop doing what you had started not ours.

You neglected to mention that we made personal offers to lend you money, nothing to do with any business, we just wanted to help you from your unfortunate situation as you sounded desperate. You did not take these generous offers as you said you would raise the money by selling your own domains.

You have also neglected to mention that your primary role was to set up the scripts in order to have a platform to sell and buy domains from. You purchased a few scripts with our money which are now useless to us as we know nothing about them. I am sure we will find someone or pay someone to complete what you started.

Also you started other things that we paid for like headers for domains etc, as we were also going to do something with SEO
which we know nothing about but we paid whoever you wanted us to.

Now we are left with half of allot of things. But that is our problem we are not complaining as that is part of doing business when things don’t work out, as long as we knew the risks from the start and we did. and so did you.

You have requested 34 domains from us in your latest settlement offer, why this number I don’t understand, although we ask
ourselves what are we settling, when we also lost out on our time, what are you going to offer us, so again we are unsure as to why you even would ask for this. If you request 34 names, why list 675+ domains. Also we have bought over a thousand names since working with you, why are you not laying claim to those as well.

Can you explain why you would access and use our money from our sub account to register a domain, for yourself, even after you have stopped working with us. As this is an unauthorized use of our funds. And we would not have known about this if we had not accounted for every cent correctly that’s why there are systems in place which On many occasions we have asked you to adhere to.

If you were going to return the funds you would have by now. On many occasions you acted alone and without consultation with the company. This caused untold delays and numerous problems. Although money was always returned to us except on the one occasion above. Your honesty is not at question here, we are just wondering why you would do this without asking and especially when you want nothing to do with us.

We have contacted the registrar in question and they have told us that you are not allowed to access our funds in the sub account of your name mogul account. What would your other clients think if you used their funds when you need them.

We have put the funds there for the sole use of purchasing domains for our company. This is not for your use, But if you had asked I am sure we would have lent you the money as we have offered all along to help you out of your unfortunate position of being without a penny.

You have since advised us that you have discounted allot of your domains and you are getting some of your problems sorted out. We are very happy for you although we don’t wish to be your golden goose. You may not help yourself to our domains. We actually at one point even offered you a few so you could get yourself out of trouble, not for a settlement but to help you. You kindly told us to GO F@#K OURSELVES. Since this last statement from you we have not been willing to assist you any further as we see it as only damaging to what we are trying to achieve.

We acknowledge that we wanted to work with you as you did with us, you told us that you were well respected in the industry, which we believed to be true. We still hold the view that you are very good at what you do, but it would seem that your personal financial situation has clouded your thinking resulting in the situation that we now find ourselves in.

This was a situation where we all came to the table with each contributing time to the project, nothing more was expected from you. Unfortunately, the project did not get off the ground due to all sorts of reasons which puts us where we are today. No one is to blame it was just the way things went and situations that arose on your behalf and from there we decided not to continue with your company.

Why would you need to take this matter to an open forum other than a means of leverage due to there being no other reasons for you trying to lay claim to what is ours. We are not looking for others to back us in what we are saying we are simply stating the facts as you left this open for speculation about our integrity. This is not fair.

This is the only reason we have responded, this is no one else’s business and we are not warning them against you as all our dealings with you have been fine. We have no problems with your integrity. No problems with your company. The only problem has now risen since you have decided to threaten us and our business, and I am sure anyone in our situation would also respond back in a manner that we have.

Should you consider it necessary to continue to attack us in this manner in an open forum or anywhere, we cannot stop you so go right ahead but please make it clear as to what you consider your claim is and don’t just come out and accuse us of unfair trading when we have been nothing but fair.

It may have been better to just stay quiet although we felt that if you wish to say things then we would provide the facts. We don’t believe for one minute that we have taken anything from you as we have paid out thousands of dollars on domains and scripts and labor etc. If you had put money in then we would fairly distribute to you what is rightfully yours.

John you are a desperate man right now and we sympathize with you.

Although please act professionally and discontinue the malicious threats you have been making and also the things that you have been saying about us. As we can with a clear conscious say that we have not said anything bad about you your company or your way that you did business with us. We were just disappointed that you reacted the way you did when you fell into your financial crisis and started to make changes and move domains etc, without first communicating your wishes to us as we were all trying to work together to achieve a common goal.

I would from this point on say to you that we do not have anything to do with your company and any debts that you may incur or have currently. It is unfortunate that it has turned out this way.

Although not all projects work. In saying that we have also had many successful dealings with other people in this industry to date and will continue to do so. We have not wished to cause you any embarrassment here, and you have many years of experience and knowledge that we respect and I am sure others do also. Although we just wanted to state the facts since you decided to once again attack us and our company. We ask you kindly to refrain from this although if you are not able to act professionally and want to continue this childish behavior and wish to take this further please direct all correspondence to our lawyers, details of which I have given you several times. As I don’t believe people are too interested in our squabbles. These areas of the boards are for real problems and to warn of real scams. John Jeffers, Where is the scam here? What has been done to you?

Kind regards

Michael Gilmont
Greg Lasrado
The Webelion Team


Since writing this a few more things have happened. We were not going to post this as we did not want to cause you embarrassment. Although you keep persisting to send us malicious emails accusing us of all sorts of things.

In the statement above it says we are not questioning your honesty and integrity, well now we are, as you have now stolen money from us.

You have now locked us out from our account. You have stolen what funds are there. you say suspended but then reseller club or the authorities would have to do this. Whereas you did it. So no they are not suspended you have stolen them as in your emails to us you have told us we are not getting them back. Also the colorful email saying GFY (GO F@#K YOURSELF) to us with the amount of money you took, I had to giggle, as this must be getting under your skirt if you have resorted to this kind of attack in a business matter.

John, please fight your own battles. Rallying the troops and trying to attack like a gang is ridiculous. You are sending us email after email about our colorful past. What does that have to do with this transaction and please clearly out line what your claim is......

John do some research and just don’t Google people, as anything can be put up on the net. There is like we said two sides to everything and if anyone has been involved in the press at a commercial level or just a target due to the business they are in then they will understand that sometimes what is written and said is not true it is just something that is put there to sensationalize someone, as in life we like to read about colorful people or things. people will always try and put down anyone who does something that is out of the norm, this colloquially is called tall poppy syndrome, if you didn’t already know.

Obviously your dealings in business are limited as you will find over time not every deal is perfect, sometimes things don’t go your way. But unless you have a personal insight to what has gone on or where involved you are only a mug, if you try to comment on it. Rumors are started this way, people make opinions of their own when they don’t know what is going on and you know what they say about opinions. If you have ever been a victim of this then you would know.

After a while you develop thick skin and these sort of opinions and stories just glide right off as when people get to know you they can make up their own opinion.

In saying that we are not going to also say our past is perfect as no one’s is. Not even yours John - but as you stated to us it is, then why are you in court facing possible jail over 2000 dollars owed to your wife. But I don’t judge you in this as things happen, I judge you on the fact that this morning you stole money from us.

That along with the blackmail and malicious comments are the issue at hand.

Why don’t you just let justice take its course, as if we are in the wrong you will be dully compensated don’t you think. Or is your claim so weak that not only do you have to rally others to go against us and waste their valuable time but you have now also make yourself judge and jury. As ResellerClub have denied suspending these funds the say you have done it. The logs are there and will be handed to our lawyers.

Well if you have to brand yourself a thief for the few hundred dollars that was left there then good on you. Buy yourself a good bottle of wine or whatever you want. I will leave it in the hands of our legal people and also the authorities. As I know what has gone on and so will they.

There is no need for us to rally any troops and if I tried to people would laugh as most decent business people just don’t have time for this. Obviously you have done what any desperate man does and tried to tell his story to as many people who will listen so they can say "poor John", "hasn’t he been hard done by". Where as if they had any sense of business they would say grow up and go fight your own battles Or let your legal team deal with it.

I have never in my life met someone so petty that they resort to this kind of tactics in order to prove their case. We have just stated the facts and I really don’t care what others think as it is none of their business and their business is none of mine. So I would never enter into it. If anyone has a problem with anything we have done or will do then I am sure they are strong enough to contact us personally and we can deal with the issue professionally and sensibly.

Dealing like this on a board has to be one of the most cowardly acts, and that is why we have thought twice about posting this. Although we felt that we have been accused of something we have not done and money has now been stolen and passwords changed so we wanted to state the facts here where you have so kindly told people we have ripped you off, but you never said how. Always when making a claim John state the facts.

But then again you said you are going to post it on every board and will make it so we can never do business. Well that’s life. I can only say we will have to live with what you do and so will you but I am sure we will be doing business now and for a long time to come. If people wish not to deal with us for this reason then it is entirely up to them but normally when money is concerned common sense will prevail. We have only joined this business a short while ago and what started out as a hobby has now turned into something we are going to try and earn an income from and provide a service to others as there seems to be things missing in this industry.

John, if you feel you need to keep our money then there is nothing I can do other than to report it. But I would in future be very skeptical about putting funds in any sub account with you as if this is the way you resolve things then that is not right.

Lastly, I have asked you to divert all your correspondence to our legal team which we keep on retainer for our normal day to day business like any other company does. And don’t assume we need lawyers because we are in trouble, lawyers are used for other day to day issues like drawing up contracts, buying business etc. You are yet to contact or send our lawyers anything as I have asked you on many occasions to do this. They have been fully briefed and have contacted the relevant people that need to be notified of what you have done.

Thank you for the experience. But we are not disheartened as we have had many other experiences so far in this industry which we are very new to, hundreds of thousands of dollars have been transacted with not a single problem or the use of escrow or anything. We have met many lovely people who we will continue to work with. And rather than wait for you to resolve this I will let it take its course, as we have other things to do and we are getting on with it. But by the number of emails and points you have brought up with us, you are focusing on this like a mad dog with a bone. Have fun.

I would just like to once more say John, it would be nice if you gave us back our money and let the lawyers deal with this. That is if you think your case will stand up. As I never saw you as a thief, and if your claim is solid why would you take the money. Why not leave it there.



Cheers
The Webelion Team

 

[JMJ]

Thanks for posting your side. Now I assume it's safe for me to post mine. The ramblings of a madman.. I have facts folks this is going to be a long drawn out post. May take months for me to make all of these screenshots.




On 9/21/2006 I was contacted by DNF user shad0w35 AKA Greg Lasrado regarding a few gambling domain names I had posted for sale. In this post he asked if the names had traffic and if I had any others. I responded back with a batch of around 90 names that I had with traffic and we reached an agreement on those names. Within this agreement Greg informed me he was new to the domain business and noticed I had a list service and he would throw in a few hundred extra if I sent him my lists for a few months and here is the summary of my reply,

"I don't mind giving you tips from time to time and even access to my site but to be honest I'm planning on shutting it down to the public. The objective was to compensate the revenues I would be loosing in giving up all of my secrets but as of yet I haven't even covered the cost of the billing script itself..lol I'll likely keep organizing and storing all of my files there so you can have access but don't get upset if I forget what I'm doing there."

He agreed to the price and the offering of my "tips from time to time " and we finalized the deal. In between time he asked for some sort of instant messenger so he could ask questions from time to time so I gave him my ICQ. We began chatting about the business the very next day on the 09/23 and he had alot of interest aswell as questions. It didn't take long before I could see that this was going to take alot of my time answering questions etc. I could also see that he was going to make alot of "newbie" mistakes due to the names he was sending to me to have a look at and give him my opinion.

As I said I would, I began sending him lists. Also during our conversations I told him while I did make a decent living I didn't have the funding to really do alot of the things I wanted to do. He mention that if I continued to help him he would back me in some things and we would split the profits 50/50. We began discussing various idea I had aswell as some that he had. More or less some of the things he wanted to do I had already done in the past or had considered doing so I already knew the cheapest route to do them.

On the very day we had this discussion I spoke with a friend/business associate who lived in Australia regarding Greg. To put it plain and simple David advised me to "watch my back." I also did some digging of my own and read some of the his history. I mentioned to Greg that I have read up on his past and he stated "don't believe everything you read." I have to admit at this time I was considering not even doing the deal and/or getting caught up in the middle of anything that could turn out like his past business dealings.

This was also during the time of the .mobi landrush. He told me he was ordering them through pool.com which was $79 a year and I informed him of Godaddy offering them at $59. So right there I began to save him money. But there is also alot of great suggestions I made such as ADAPTOR.MOBI, ADAPTORS.MOBI, ARCADEGAME.MOBI, CROSSWORDPUZZLE.MOBI, FREEPIC.MOBI, FREESCREENSAVER.MOBI, PERSONALAD.MOBI, USAMAPS.MOBI, WORLDATLAS.MOBI just to name a few. I spent the better part of that entire night datamining names on this day the 09/27. On the next day I decided to make the first attempt at testing the waters on his offer. I sent over about 15 names I felt would be good sellers down the road. Greg didn't really understand my reasoning behind them all apparently and questioned my reasoning then so I just sent him these 7 and said I would definately get these HANDHELDPC.MOBI, HAWHAW.MOBI, MACADDRESS.MOBI, OPERATINGSYSTEMS.MOBI, TEXTTOSPEECH.MOBI, VOICEBROWSER.MOBI, VOICEXML.MOBI and he agreed he would get them. I then went a registered a few of the others on my own. So at this point we're only 7 names into our still "iffy" agreement.

A few weeks before all of this I had noticed several times in a users signature a name which I wanted more than any name and it was Tennesee.info. When I first saw it in his sig he had it priced at $12,000 and even then I was thinking of how I could come up with or wishing I had $12,000 to get it. On 09/30/2006 Mike AKA Provider was looking to raise some quick cash for a deal he was working on and posted this name along with some other names and stated he was looking for quick sale offers. I PM'ed him and asked him what the minimum was he would take on it and he stated "I wont sell it for less than 5k." I PM'ed him back and asked him if I could get him the funds within the next few days would he sell it for the $5,000 and he informed me he would but he had to have the deal funded by the following Friday. This was on Saturday night.

Which leads us to what I think we would both agree as the deciding factor on us going forward with our partnership agreement. I thought about it and I figured I would put Greg to the test on everything he said he would do. More or less if he agreed to getting this name I would go forward with working with him and devoting my time and experience in his new business venture. I sent over a IM to Greg and told him about the name and if he would purchase it I would take care of all of his ideas and make sure he didn't buy into any bad deals etc. More or less a complete partnership. He brought the money to the table and I brought the experience. At first he was leary of doing it not knowing even what "Tennessee" was and even pointed to several off the wall extensions that were available. I sent him an email over stating this was a very good deal and those available extensions in no way even came close to comparing to this one especially with me being a big .info buyer/seller. In this email I told Greg if he bought the name I would turn over all of my non local related names to the business aslong as it was agreed that I got the name. Greg eventually emailed me back and said if I really wanted the names he would do the deal. I posted sold on the name that night and told Mike I would get with him the next day regarding payment.

The next day rolls around and Greg wanted to know which names I thought were also good deals that mike had. I pointed out about 4-5 but I really liked the price on las-vegas.info. Greg asked me to see how much we could get it for included on the deal so it would soften the blow on tennessee.info deal. I thought it to be a good idea so I made an offer to MIke of $7,000 for Tennessee.info and las-vegas.info and Mike agreed. Greg wanted to make payment via epassporte because he had the funds there readily available. Mike was worried that if he went that route he wouldn't get the money in time enough to close the deal he wanted to do so he wanted to do it via some other form. I decided to go the escrow route because the payment could be made via multiple forms so it would give Greg several ways to pay. I initiated the escrow agreement via Moniker.com that day. Greg said he would get it taken care of it and this was on Sunday 10/01.

Monday I traveled back home from a weekend visit with my son out of town and got back to work on some of the things Greg and I had discussed. On Tuesday 10/03 I PM'ed Mike and asked if everything was ok on his end. He stated he received an email from moniker that the escrow was in the works so he thought all was well and it also settled my mind. I continued on with doing things for Greg. Most of which was moving thousands of names from one parking program to another (4-5 different ones over the course of a month.) and adding them to the various brokerage sites such as sedo and afternic. Doing my lists, merging our portfolios and answering Gregs questions. Basicly spending every waken hour on doing this that or the other for all of this but I felt I was working for something that I really wanted which was tennessee.info. All the while thinking Greg was taking care of funding it. On that day 10/03 I began to register names I had in my "to be registered lists." This is a list of names I continually update of good avilable names and when I have extra money I pick out the best that are still available to register and resell. I had actually been holding out on these names until I felt more comfortable with our arrangement and his commitment on tennessee.info gave me the reassurance I needed to give them up. At first I registered these names at fabulous


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On the 4th I registered these at Godaddy

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BRIDAL-WEAR
BRIDESMAID-DRESS
BROADWAY-SHOW
BROWNRECLUSE
BULL-DOG
BUSINESS-AND-ECONOMY
BUSINESS-FOR-SALE
BUTTERFLYTATTOOS
CALIFORNIA-MAP
CAMEL-TOE
CANCUN-HOTEL
CANCUNHOTEL
CAR-ACCESSORY
CAR-QUOTE
CAR-SEAT
CATANDDOG
CEILING-FAN
CELEBRITY-PICTURE
CHEAT-CODE
CHICKEN-POX
CHILD-ABUSE
CHILDCARES
CLINIQUES
CLIPDIRECTORY
COAT-OF-ARMS
COCKER-SPANIEL
COLLEGE-BOARD
COMPUTER-DESK
COMPUTER-MONITOR
COMPUTER-VIRUS
COMPUTERARTS
CONTEMPORARY-FURNITURE
COOK-BOOK
CROSS-STITCH
CURRENCYCONVERTERS
CURRENCYEXCHANGES
CUSTOM-WHEELS
DEPARTMENT-STORE
DESKTOPMANAGEMENT
DEVICEDRIVER
DIVX-PLAYER
DIVXPLAYERS
DOG-CARE
DOG-HOUSE
DOLL-HOUSE
DOLLZ
DREAMINTERPRETATIONS
DRIVERLICENSES
DVD-BURNER
DVD-DECODER
ELECTRONICCOMPONENT
EMAIL-SEARCH
EMAIL-SERVICE
EMERIL
EMPLOYMENT-OPPORTUNITY
ENDANGERED-SPECIES
EVERWOOD
EXCHANGE-RATE
F1S
FACE-SITTING
FAIRY-TALE
FAMILY-SEARCH
FAMOUS-QUOTE
FANTASYFEST
FASHION-DESIGNER
FILE-MANAGEMENT
FINANCIAL-NEWS
FINANCIALAIDS
FIREPLACEINSERT
FISH-TANK
FLASH-GAME
FLCL
FOSI
FREE-GALLERY
FREE-HENTAI
FREE-HOROSCOPE
FREE-PICTURE
FREE-WEB-CAM
FREEBACKGROUND
FUN-GAME
G-UNIT
GAG-GIFT
GAS-SCOOTER
GAYCHATS
GO-KART
GOTHICCLOTHING
GREATWHITESHARKS
GROCERY-STORE
GUITARCHORD
HAIRPRODUCT
HALLOWEENRECIPE
HALLOWEENRECIPES
HAND-GUN
HARD-DISK
HOME-INTERIOR
HOME-PLAN
HOMEDECORS
HOT-OR-NOT
HOTBARS
HUMAN-BODY
HUMAN-RESOURCE
JAVA-SCRIPT 10/04/07
JIGSAW-PUZZLE
JOB-DESCRIPTION
KITCHEN-APPLIANCE
LANDSCAPE-DESIGN
LANDSCAPEDESIGNS
LAS-VEGAS-SHOW
LASTSUPPER
LEATHERCOAT
LESBIANPICTURE
LIVE-CAM
LOCALHOSTS
LOSTINTRANSLATION
LOVE-HOROSCOPE
LOVE-LETTER
LOVE-SONG
LOW-RIDER
LUXURY-CAR
MEDICAL-SUPPLY
MINI-BIKE
MINI-SKIRT
MISSION-STATEMENT
MODELPLANE
MOTORCYCLE-ACCESSORY
MOTORCYCLE-TRAILER
MOUNTAINLIONS
MOVIE-TRAILER
MUSCLE-CAR
MUSICAL-INSTRUMENT
NATURE-PHOTOGRAPHY
NEW-MOVIE
NIGHTSURF
NUDE-CELEBRITY
NUDE-PHOTOGRAPHY
ONLINETHESAURUS
OPERATING-SYSTEM
OVULATION-CALENDAR
PARADISEISLANDS
PARTY-GAME
PARTY-SUPPLY
PERSONALITYQUIZ
PHOTOEDITORS
PIC-POST
PICNIC-BASKET
POCKETPCSOFTWARE
POPUPCAMPER
PORTABLE-DVD-PLAYER
POSTAL-CODE
PREGNANCYCALENDARS
PUMPKIN-PIE
RC-CAR
RECORDING-STUDIO
RED-SOX
RIVERCRUISE
ROCKY-MOUNTAIN
SEARCHENGINELISTING
SEVENTHHEAVEN
SEXUAL-INTERCOURSE
SHIH-TZU
SHIHTZUS
SHORT-SKIRT
SHORT-STORY
SHOWER-CURTAIN
SKINCARES
SLEAZYDREAMS
SNOW-BLOWER
SOUND-CARD
SPIDER-SOLITAIRE
ST-LUCIA
STORAGE-SHED
STREET-FIGHTER
SUN-TAN
SWATS
SWIMWEARS
TATTOO-PICTURE
TEACHER-RESOURCE
TEEN-CHAT
TEEN-PREGNANCY
TEENCHATS
TEMPORARY-TATTOO
TEXAS-MAP
THONGGALLERY
TIME-ZONE
TRAVEL-TRAILER
TRIGLYCERIDE
TROPICAL-ISLAND
TV-LISTING
UNDERWORLDS
USBS
USED-BOAT
USED-TRUCK
UTILITY-TRAILER
VEGAS-TRAVEL
VICE-CITY
VIRUS-PROTECTION
VIRUS-SCAN
VIRUS-SCANNER
WATER-GARDEN
WATERFORD-CRYSTAL
WEDDING-SONG
WEST-NILE-VIRUS
WHITE-TIGER
WHITEWATER-RAFTING
WIFEY
WILD-FLOWER
WILDANIMAL
WILDLIFE-PHOTOGRAPHY
WINDOW-BLIND
WINDOWBLIND
WITCH-CRAFT
WOOD-WORKING
WORD-SEARCH
WORLDTRAVELS
ZOIDS

And I also told Greg we should get 50 backorders at Godaddy to catch some cheap drops with those. He ok'ed it and I requested Randy at GD place the order on the 4th and at the same time because I didn't have access to the account that he place some backorders for us which resulted in the first three catches below but ultimately resulted in all of the following

Domainsfirst.com

VISTATHEMES.BIZ 10/06/07
VISTATHEMES.INFO 10/08/07
VISTATHEMES.US 10/06/07

.US
2NDINCOME 10/29/07
BOARD-GAMES 10/29/07
BUYMEDICINE 11/03/07
CITYLOFTS 11/11/07
COURTING 11/05/07
FREETRIALS 10/31/07
GENIUSES
GOGETTERS 10/30/07
GUITAR-TAB 11/08/07
HOMESFSBO 11/13/07
IBUYUGLYHOUSES 11/17/2007
LIQUIDOXYGEN 11/17/2007
PERVERSIONS 11/11/07
PLAYKENO 11/21/2007
PROFILER 11/22/2007
ROADIES 11/05/07
SELLINGAHOME 11/18/07
TODOLIST 11/21/2007
TOPLISTINGS 11/06/07
WATCHSPORTS 10/29/07
WORKTOOLS 11/07/07

Sold only as a set

INDUSTRYREPORT 10/28/07

.BIZ
INDUSTRYREPORT 10/28/07
INDUSTRYREPORTS 10/28/07

ALLOCCASIONS 10/31/07
BOURBONS 11/11/07
CASINO-BONUS 11/21/2007
COMPLEXIONS 11/12/07
HAIRLESS 11/16/07
MEDICALCENTRE 11/26/2007
POCKETWATCH 11/27/2007
RECHARGEABLE 11/14/2007
RHYMES 11/10/07
REHEARSE 11/08/07
SOFTPORN.BIZ 11/27/2007

.INFO
CASINOROULETTE 10/28/2007
GAS-CARD 10/29/07
HARDMONEYLENDING 10/28/07
HAZY 10/28/07
HOUSE-LOAN 10/28/07
RESEMBLE 10/30/07
UNLIMITEDCALLING 10/30/07
WALKIETALKIE 10/29/07


TRYME.ORG 11/06/07

Greg wanted to do some tasting so I suggested he get a Moniker account to that with. I gave him Monte's email and he funded the account there. I told Greg there were a few other names from my "stash" that were mostly from the buydomains adult and gambling name dump but a few others which either had linkpop or well worth the $7 they are as follows:

.com

ADULT-CHATROOM.COM2007-10-02
ADULTBILLER.COM2007-10-02
ASSPLEASER.COM2007-10-02
BARE-ASS.COM2007-10-02
COCK-TEASE.COM2007-10-02
EROTICHQ.COM2007-10-02
ETRADENAMES.COM2007-10-14
FREENAMESPACE.COM2007-10-16
HARDCORE-LESBIAN.COM2007-10-02
IADULTENTERTAINMENT.COM2007-10-02
ILLPILLS.COM2007-10-05
LIVENUDEPEOPLE.COM2007-10-02
NAME-LOANS.COM2007-10-14
NAMEMOJO.COM2007-10-14
NONNUDECAM.COM2007-10-02
NUDE-CLUB.COM2007-10-02
NUDE-FEMALE.COM2007-10-02
NUDESNET.COM2007-10-02
ORGY-PICS.COM2007-10-02
OZMATE.COM2007-10-05
RESERVATIOMS.COM2007-10-04
SEX-OBSESSION.COM2007-10-02
SEX-ROOMS.COM2007-10-02
SEXCHAT-CAMS.COM2007-10-02
SEXYCAMCHICKS.COM2007-10-02
SHITSTARTERS.COM2007-10-02
STRIPPERS-ONLINE.COM2007-10-02
TVGANGBANG.COM2007-10-04
XTEENPUSSY.COM2007-10-24
XXXLAIR.COM2007-10-02
XXXMOVIEAWARDS.COM2007-10-02
XXXVIDEOBABES.COM2007-10-02
Z01.BIZ2007-10-03
Z15.BIZ2007-10-03
Z16.BIZ2007-10-03
Z18.BIZ2007-10-03
Z20.BIZ2007-10-03
Z27.BIZ2007-10-03
Z30.BIZ2007-10-03
Z32.BIZ2007-10-03
Z37.BIZ2007-10-03
Z38.BIZ2007-10-03
Z39.BIZ2007-10-03


.ORG
CURRENCYCONVERSIONS
PENSACOLA-FLORIDA 2007-10-06
PANAMA-CITY 2007-10-06

 

[JMJ]

A few more days go by and on the 6th when Mike said he needed his money he emailed me saying Moniker has said they hadn't received payment on the escrow. I told Mike:

"I've been buried in his portfolio/sites so Greg said he would talk with you regarding the deal. The problem is he only has $4000ish in the paypal and it takes awhile for him to get more in. There's plenty in epass if we can do a split. Monte knows Greg, the funds are there, Greg told me he waned to discuss other names. We'll take care of Monte/Moniker in fact Greg just talked with him regarding it if we need to pull it out of escrow. If you can email him at Greg@ or ICQ 17-...-... He's expecting your email/PM either way we'll get it taken care of."

Which is exactly what I was told by Greg. I messaged Greg again via PM as I had done several times that week to make sure it was getting handled, mentioned I gave Mike his information and again he said he would take care of it. I let it go and get back to work on various datamining, registering, moving, etc. On 10-11 Mike PM's me again saying :

"Hi,

Greg is not answering my mails for 2 days. Could you guys sort out the the payment today? I am in the big trouble and letting down other people because I am relying on you to make a pyament on time. If the payment is done please ignore this email .
Mike"

and here is my response:

"Yeah I'm sorry about it all it's been a long past week. I wish we would have went the epass route from the start if nothing else him sending it to me and me transferring it to my bank and sending to you.

We had abit of a heated discussion regarding that early this morn as I made a huge sacrifice for the deal to happen aswell. He told me he made the payment yesterday but whether he did or not I can't honestly say. He's asleep right now but I will ask him again when he gets up letting him know you have PM'ed me.

He has the money so I'm quite perplexed as to why he hasn't settled on it myself and he also understands both names are a deal. He now also understands that if I don't get the name his leap into this business will come to a screeching halt if he doesn't work it out one way or another. I'll let you know what he has to say when he gets up.

John"


His response to the above:

"Hi John,

Thanks for update. If Greg said he paid for it that means he did it probably, so that makes things easier.
Regarding epass: The problem is that if he has money on his epass and he as a customer experiences so many problems and delays with the payment i would only imagine how many problems I could have had with it. I don't think for people in norht america this is a good payment options, but I might be mistaken.
In any case I don't want you guys to argue, if in case it turns out that he still didn't pay for the names please ask when it is going to be made finally,

regards,

Mike"

My reply to the above:

"Nah the problem with using epass outside of it via the cards is there's a transaction limit. Mine is $500 but I would say his is likely $1000 for upgraded accounts. But yeah he's not looking to start things off on the wrong foot. We have both been busy as hell and I know he is more than I as he deals with his other business ventures. I'm just handling the domain business side of things and have alot on my plate with just that.

John"


His reply:

"Hi John, thanks for info. Keep me update please


Mike"

Once again Greg has promised he would get it taken care of, appoligizes to me and says he thought it was handled by Michael. . By now I can see where this is going but I'm regretfully continuing on.

During the few weeks into this we both had the same vision. One of those was webelion.com. I'm not going to go into details on it just yet but the easiest route was a script which cost $700. The other was a domain registry. Which again due to my experience I thought the best route was AWBS $130. Another project we both wanted to do was mini-sites. for all of our names rather than parking. I had a good cheap deisnger who would do headres for us at $10 each and my local coder was going to develop a simple to modify script so basicly all we had to do was change the keywords in one place, add the headers, and change the colors to mathc each header. Between all of this in addition to assisting Greg in his learnings and ontop of the datamining, moving and organizing names, etc it was all becomng a logistical nightmare for me. In addition to the workload there were many issues we ran into over the coming weeks which delayed those projects most of which I had no control over. Basicly waiting on other people to do their work.

During this week I received and email stating pool had a good selection of lll .mobis going for auction and ending around 10/10-10/11 I told Greg there were some good combinations in the list and we should drop atleast a few of those in the account and see what they go for in the end we ended up with these names

uhf.mobi
cig.mobi
gcc.mobi
gus.mobi
jjc.mobi
kcc.mobi
lcc.mobi
svc.mobi


On the 13th it became public knowledge that the lll .mobi's were disappearing rather quickly. I told Greg about the llls and we should get atleast some of them before they are gone. I had an old account at resellerclub where we could register .mobi's for $17 for the two years. He agreed to funding the account and I began picking off good combinations. He funded the accout with $500 and I registered up those funds rather quickly and I requested that he add more so we could get more before they are all gone so we added another $600 and I registered abot $400 worth more and Greg began to question my decision making there so i quit doing them. I had some cash on hand myself and considered registering some on my own but decided against it because i felt it would be a conflict of interest for one but I also had no idea even at this point of when I was going to start making any money out of all of this. Here are the list of names I datmined and registered there over the course of time.

ResellerClub

chq.mobi
cjc.mobi
eej.mobi
epe.mobi
eqi.mobi
fef.mobi
fif.mobi
fwc.mobi
fwf.mobi
fww.mobi
ggb.mobi
ggr.mobi
ggs.mobi
gkc.mobi
gkg.mobi
heg.mobi
hhk.mobi
iil.mobi
jkc.mobi
kgc.mobi
kjc.mobi
klc.mobi
llr.mobi
lls.mobi
llt.mobi
lul.mobi
nkc.mobi
ofo.mobi
ooi.mobi
pgc.mobi
pll.mobi
ppf.mobi
rbr.mobi
rir.mobi
rlr.mobi
rre.mobi
rrs.mobi
rvc.mobi
tkw.mobi
whc.mobi
wlc.mobi
xix.mobi
xpc.mobi
ypn.mobi

Phone-Directory.MOBI
Phone-Number.MOBI
Stock-Quote.MOBI
Sports-Book.MOBI
WirelessRelay.MOBI
RelayServices.MOBI
RelayService.MOBI
pcanywhere.mobi
teleconferencing.mobi
phonelisting.mobi
slingo.mobi
jigsawpuzzle.mobi
TVTheme.MOBI
GameTheme.MOBI
gamethemes.mobi
musictheme.mobi
musicthemes.mobi
reggaeringtones.mobi
poptones.mobi
popringtones.mobi
countrytones.mobi
reggaetones.mobi
OrderGifts.MOBI
b2k.mobi
carchargers.mobi
keypads.mobi
datacables.mobi
datacable.mobi
alhotels.mobi
akhotels.mobi
azhotels.mobi
arhotels.mobi
cohotels.mobi
cthotels.mobi
dehotels.mobi
flhotels.mobi
gahotels.mobi
hihotels.mobi
idhotels.mobi
ilhotels.mobi
inhotels.mobi
iahotels.mobi
kshotels.mobi
kyhotels.mobi
mdhotels.mobi
mehotels.mobi
mahotels.mobi
mihotels.mobi
mnhotels.mobi
mshotels.mobi
mohotels.mobi
mthotels.mobi
nehotels.mobi
nvhotels.mobi
nhhotels.mobi
nmhotels.mobi
ndhotels.mobi
ohhotels.mobi
okhotels.mobi
orhotels.mobi
rihotels.mobi
schotels.mobi
sdhotels.mobi
tnhotels.mobi
txhotels.mobi
uthotels.mobi
vthotels.mobi
wahotels.mobi
wvhotels.mobi
wihotels.mobi
wyhotels.mobi
WashingtonHotel.MOBI



On 10/21 I receive a messge from Mike/Provider and it is as follows.

"Hi John

This is now serious. few weeks lasted but still Moniker didn;t receive payment for the names. Whats happening?


Mike"

And this is my reply:

"My understanding is it was being taken care of. Greg sent me and Albert an email asking Albert to run the transaction on his card but whether that happened or not I can't say. Again it's not good news for me that this topic has come up again. I'm replying to you before I go to Greg which I will do here very shortly. Between me and you this transaction getting completed (which has still been to my own belief that it was getting taken care of) is the deciding factor on how much further I put myself into his operation. I'll get back with you after I talk with Greg.

John"


His response:

"np, le tme know if you get any updates"

On 10/27 I receive this message from Mike:

"whats happening guys?"

My response:

"Mike if I had control of the money you would already be paid but I don't. In fact I gave up basicly all of my names just to get the name off the market and into atleast Gregs possesion for now. I'm not going to go into Greg and my arrangement but I can't wait any longer for this transaction to occur myself.

I'm going to give up my desire on this particular name but I'll chat with Greg on some of you other names and we'll work out something on names he may be more interested in himself. I'll suggest he go ahead and get las-vegas.info. If I had thought this was going to turn out this way I would have never posted sold to begin with. At this point I would say just have Monte pull the escrow.

If you want to send me the list of names you want to sell (I know you've sent them before but it's buried in the midst of thousands of emails) I'll get with Greg and settle him on something which might interest him more than what interests me since it is his money. The Tennessee name wasn't a for profit name so I guess thats made his motivation on finalizing it not as great as others. Between me and you I would consider going the epassporte route if he settles on something other. And I wish we would have went that route at first.

Thats about all I can say or do. My hands are tied.

John"


His response:

"Hi John

There is no way to go back here, you ar eputting your reputation on the line in this forum. This is all I can say. You know how it works, you have to buy yhem now. I could post them on the traffic and sell them there,so a lot of missed chances for me.
Please talk to Creg, i am not really interested to sell any other names to you guys before we close this
transaction, hopefully you understand. I in return do understand that you are working with the partner, but the only thing I had control over is posting the names for sale. As I understand partical payment was done. How much was paid, and how much left?

Regards,

Mike"

second reply:

"in addition to all that I had to pay for the domain name as soon as I receive your payment. I couldn't pay for it and i lost it, it was sold to somebody else"


My response:

"Trust me I fully understand the ramifications. And it sucks for me. I've been put in a bad way myself outside of that fact primarily because I gave up my assets which was my regular earnings. As far as our partnership this transaction was part of the deal. It hasn't been fulfilled so as of right now I'm running with losses aswell. As far as what payment has been made again I have no idea. I do know that Greg told Albert to run his card but again I don't know if that was done as I don't have access to his financials.

If the payment was made on tennessee.info then that leaves the $2000 for las-vegas.info unpaid. I know Greg mentioned something about going that route and doing las-vegas.info on paypal.. In addition if thats the case there is $2000+ in the moniker account I taste with so it shouldn't be an issue there. Again I just don't know. I've asked Greg and last he said he was going to ask Michael his assistant what has/hasn't been paid. So the reality is he' doesn't even know. But the best thing for both of us is for you to contact him via ICQ 17-..-... and get him motivated to close the deal. I'll do the same.

John"


Second response:

"Scratch the ICQ he's having some issues there and not even getting my messages. his email is greg@ if you want to email him. I've already told him to close the deal asap and we'll just put them back on the market but you may want to email hi mwith your desire aswell.

John"


At this point I've spent alot of time given up alot of my names, lost out on .mobi landrush, and lost income for nearly a month. It was a pivotal moment in the arrangement. I had pretty much decided that things weren't looking good for me but being the nice guy that I am I gave Greg the benefit of the doubt and let it ride for a few more days. I never heard from Mike again and Greg said it was getting taken care of so I assumed again all was fine and angain regretfully continued on.

On 11/05 I was "I believe accidentally" forwarded an email. The email was in regard to Tennessee.info and las-vegas.info. Basicly it was Monte saying that Mike had asked that the escrow be cancelled and for his names back. Receiving this email set me off. Here we are over a month in and Mike told me and Greg he needed his money within a week and Greg Still hasn't settled the deal. Within minutes I began moving all of my names out of Gregs accounts because the way I saw it then is the deal was off. In addition to all of that I had told Greg I need to make money within weeks and my reserves were pretty much depleted. We had agreed in the beginning I was spending so much time on doing all of these other things I didn't have time to do alot of sales posts and price negotiations so either Greg od Michael was suppose to get on the boards and start making some sales so we could all make money. It never happened. Along the way I made a few posts here and there when I had time. On two occassions I ran ebay auctions and also had them put a name I selected in a namepros auction. 2 names which cost $17 each sold for $500 on ebay minus some fees. Around $160 worth of .infos that were mine to begin with sold and the funds went into Gregs account and a name which I datamined, registered, and told him to sell on namepros.com auction sold for $100.

Basicly up until this day neither Greg or Michael have made any effort to sell any names or pretty much anything else but renew some names they already had before this all began and complain about everything. I have done all of the work. Greg states he has put in all this time to this well the truth is he's learning what it's taken me 4 years to learnin a few months. So obviously he's busy learning. Other than that no contributiuon other than financial backing.

Gregs biggest complaint is that some thigns weren't done. As you can see from the history of things all of which I have timestamped verifiable proof of via emails, PM, and IMs Greg didn't fulfill the very first agreement made which basicly lead to me stopping all work. I did continue to answer questions here and there and try to keep an open mind and and open line of communication but to this point there has been no sign of any compensation for my time, knowledge and losses.


Everytime I tried to sell names to make some money for us all I was met with a roadblock. You're selling too cheap blah blah blah. Despite selling 2 $17 .mobi's for $250 each when everyone else was selling for $75-$100. It was agreed from the beginning that the way I do business is to sell names at a decent return to cover expenses, make everyone a little bit of money and wait out the remainder. Well either Greg never had any intention to do this and just wanted me to build up his portfolio while I spend all of my own reserves and drive my own business into the ground or somewhere along the lines he decided not to sell at reseller and hold out. Either way that wasn't the origianal agreement.


I have made two offers of a settlement. The first being 25% of the names so I can go and sell them and buy tennessee.info off of him. I even gave him all of the permium names and just wanted the lower 25%. The cost of the names works out to less than $2000 for the months of work I have put in. Last week needing to get on with my own business and own life I made an offer of a settlement anyone in their right mind would accept and that was for 25% of just the .mobi's considering I missed out on the .mobi landrush and this is one of my biggest gripes. And I still offered to buy back tennessee.info with those sales funds. Greg returns with basicly half of that so obviously I told him where he could stick his offer.


End result. Greg Lasrado has cost me several months of time, a missed landrush, all of my reserves, and very shortly will cost me my business because I have to liquidate what assets I now have to just cover my basic expenses. I have broke down all of the expenses and I also have screenshots of all spendings. The names if sold today not even two months in would easily sell for $30,000+ even if liquidated. Nearly double whats invested but the truth is thy are worth alot more... I don't feel I'm asking for alot considering what he would be walking away with and especially since this whole situation has put me in the financial position it has.

Added Today:

Yesterday I believe in an effort to walk away from this entire affair with absolutly everything. Not even 1 cent paid to me and in fact a number of my names were sold an went into Gregs greedy bank account. Greg somehow was able to move all of the .mobi names registered under my master reseller account to an account under his. This was really the only thing I had any remaining control over. Once seeing that he had done so I suspended the account which had roughly $415 dollars remaining. Once Greg found out that I had suspended the account and funds he ablsolutly flipped. Calling me a theif (the guy who has worked for nothing for him all this time) a theif.

 

[Mark]

Could one of you explain this in 10 sentences or less ?

 

[JMJ]

No this is months worth of a story not just a 1 name wrong doing.. Mine will actually continue to grow.

Not a single problem Greg? You must not be talking to the people I've talked to that you also owe money. I've been on these boards for years and not one person can say I've done them wrong and if they can invite them to post it here. How is it that you are the only one?

Meeting and going into business with you has turned my world upside down so here's a good flipping of your own. I will walk away from this learning from my mistake and that mistake was doing business with you.

I have done everything in my power to try and settle this respectfully and before we came to this for over a month now. You with your "lawyers on payroll" are the one who has dodged every effort and made legal threats all along the way (which are in those emails and PMs you say you have and I know I have.)

If nothng else comes of this other than one other person getting the $5k owed to him and you know who that is, he knows who he is and has been waiting for your acknowledgement of his presence after 3 weeks and making you $xxx,xxx (on a deal you told me you did on your own) then I have atleast accomplished one thing from all of this even if I don't ever see a dime.

 

[JMJ]

In response to a few of your questions which you already know the answer to. The reason I haven't listed all the domains acquired since I've been with you is because "I" had nothing to do with them. Outside of the gambling names you have in this "other" .mobi account (the one you accused me of changing the password on that I never even had any access to) which I datamined but have no idea which ones you registered. dailydouble.mobi is one off the top of my head.

The reason for me posting here for one is a timestamped post with the names included. But the other is/was a last ditch effort to get you to come to your senses which I assume isn't going to happen. I'm not the one who made the situtation public Greg you may notice you're the one who gave "your side" first. 34 names is 25% counting the two sold. You know this from the 50 emails regarding it.

If I had finished all of those projects I would have just been out even more or my time. Do you not get it? You didn't settle even the very first agreement in our partnership until after I pulled my names. Over a month after you were suppose to in the first place. You put my reputation on the line from the very start. Not a good way to start a partnership. That is unless you planned on screwing your partner over all along.

You know very well I wasn't registering any names of my own. The first week before we started the partnership I registered "3" .mobi's and until after our falling out I hadn't registered one name of my own. All data was going into the "pool." A pool which I took a big drowning in. You know very well I kept my personal funds for personal stability. Once my funds ran out you needed to make a decision. Over a month later the decision hasn;t been made.

Simple fact is you don't want to sell the names. You want to hold out on them because you can sell your adult names and live off of it and sell these down the road when needed. Thats what this all boils down to. You selling your adult names does me no good and I can't wait 5-10 years for my end of the deal. Since your plans have changed I want compensation and you can do whatever you want to do.. And as I've told you I've counted atleast 80 hours worth of emailing and PM'ing in just one week and thats not counting everything else I was doing in between.. We're talking months here..

And you don't even want to get me started with bringing personal busines into this. Shows what a lowlife you are. The only one who seems so desperae for money is you Greg Lasrado. So desperate you'll f*ck anyone along the way so you can get it. And hide behind your "lawyers on payroll." As I've said before I earn my keep on my own. I don't need your "charitable" contribution. If you want "pay" me what I deserve or give me the names so I can sell them as originally planned then we can chat.. Otherwise, GFY.

My way of doing business would have made us money. Your way of doing business is what got you in this forum and is exactly what it's intended for. Sure you will still make money off of those names but it's dirty money and eventually you will get whats coming to you. I'll assist in making sure of that.

The scripts you are referring to are on your server. The only one that isn't is in the account which you paid for. If you don't know how to gain access to those files thats your own record keeping problem. If you don't know how to manage them then I guess you'll have to "pay" some who does. Or mabey you can con someone else into doing it for free..

The thing that you forget to mention to everyone is that you have spent the past few weeks making sure I had no access to anything. IE changing passwords and such. Sure I changed the password on the main reseller account that was mine to begin with (which you didn't like very much because you knew I would ultimately have control over those names when you hung me out to dry) and lead to you to moving them out while I was asleep. You knew that as soon as I saw that first move email I would lock down the account.

I'm sure you did get a kick out of it when you received my "GFY" message because you made off like a bandit. But that laughter soon turned into rage rather quickly didn't it? Whats with the mood swings?

Sure you get lists. Everyone has or gets lists but knowing what to do with those lists is an entirely different story. Do those lists you buy select the names out themselves for you? I saw first hand some of the names you were getting from your list. Remember you were forwarding them to me. How are those names going for you? Did you piss away $60 on crappy names with "linkpop" that wasn't there or are they actually going to show you a return, ever. Or what about those great names you registered before I came on? ANd I'm not referring to the ones that were given to you 10 years ago.


And on the lying comment. The "ONLY" thing you can claim I lied to you about is the pushing between resellers at resellerclub. But it was a case of mistaken identity. You see retailstudio/elb which I thought was a resellerclub reseller and even told you that on countless occassions happens to not be a reseller which I just found out (via emails that I have copies of) just 2 days ago. They just happen to use a copy of the same frontend. There again I'm definately not known as a liar. In fact as you might find in my posts here I'll tell the truth even if it hurts. I have some more truths again accompanied by those copies of emails and PM's if you wish for the pain to continue.

I wasn't even going to get into my personal matters but to clear the air. The simple fact is I didn't owe the money to my ex which again (I told you on a number of occassions) but you chose to not to include in your punch below the belt. The courts didn't have records of it due to me giving it to her in cash on occassions she needed immediate cash rather than the weeks of delays through the system. And again if you look at your records I told you that I needed to be prepared to pay it again to keep from going to jail or whatever the judgement might have been if need be which I did despite you doing what you said you would do once again.

You keep making this claim that it didn't work. It was a gamble for you and I both. Well here's my proposition to you if your "man enough" to take it. Lets put all that I did up in the auction block at cost. Lets find out if it worked or not. I'm willing to take the gamble because I surely have nothing to lose now. I'm sure I will find that you won't because you know "it worked." You just don't want to give the person who cooked it up and piece of the pie.

The gamble I took was trusting you at your word.. I lost that bet. I think you have seen from the posting of this thread that I'm a man of my word.

As far as the whole filing charges and crap. Bring it on is all I can say. Once the judge sees the "truth" you'll get laughed out of the courtroom. And if not I'm not afraid of a few days behind bars. Hell I could use a vacation.

Last but not least. You can label it "COMMERCIAL BLACKMAIL" or whatever you wish. I call it "Payback is a bitch."

Added: 12/21 this will be bumped after the 48 hours.
Early this morning I sent over a final proposition to try and resolve the issues at hand. The proposition was 20 keyword .mobi's and 10 lll .mobi's plus the remaining funds in the suspended account. If they agreed I would remove this and other posts and consider it resolved. If not then I continue on with making this matter even more public because obviously the way they want to do business is to prey on people for their own financial gain. I gave 48 hours to settle and it was rejected in it's entirety.

I obviously don't have the funds to "settle it like a man in court." lmao Which is known and why it's being tossed in the air. So as a result I have no other option than to add the link to this thread for the remainder of my time here and at every forum I've been a member of for years to let it be known this is their business tactics. They can call it blackmail but again I call it "Payback is a bitch." If you wanted to settle it like a man it would have been settled weeks ago. Instead you chose to hide behind oveseas legal team.

 

[TheBaldOne]

JMJ,

My heart goes out to you. Greag Lasrado doesn't even pay for names where he is the winning bidder on a Sedo auction! (I know, he didn't pay me!)

I was lucky, because of my past I was able to contact friends and associates in Australia who gave me the lowdown, I walked away from a private deal Greg Lasrado offered me prior to the Sedo auction because what I had found out, I was the lucky one though.

My advice to anyone considering doing business with Greg Lasrado is do a check on him first, even a simple Google search, and then decide if you want to 'supposedly' do business with him!

 

[.X.]

interesting read on him....making 10 million a year..wow!

 

[Sam]

Greg Lasrado has STILL not completed a transaction with me... overdue by 4-5 months...

I have given up . Although he did buy poker.dj from me for $1,500 and paid promptly.

 

[RJ]

Reopened for namemojo reply.

 

[Ben42]

I think the moral of this story is...

"Domaining is NOT a team sport".

-And-

"If you can't afford it don't Buy it."

 

[accessdi]

After some time I did close a deal with Greg on both Tennessee.info and Las-Vegas.info, and I received the payment.