shilmy said:
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Oh yea and 2 uniques a day is basically considered reg fee or less by many. The big fish would not even consider anything with less then numbers in the hundreds.
What I don't understand is, how the big fish can be very certain that the domain they're planning to catch will generate hundred visitors daily?
I see several of this lists but I'm not sure I will want to pay more than reg-fee this domain.
Its not the big fish that can do this. Its the whole world. The only advantage they have over you and I is lots of money. Computers and software do everything and even can calculate formulas in determining what dollar amount a domain can generate in the next 10 years, what percent are male or female and what age groups. They can even tell what country of origin the visitors may come from and what cars they may drive if given certain variables. MIT did this before not too long ago and also print it out in a nice three demensional graph in 300 or more colors. The big fish probably have a very expensive system in place but I can do everything they do for about $20. Just go to Google and search Expired Domain Software
Now heres my reply before bed.
Heres my prospective on how things are. Domains don't usually sell themselves.
Every domain has a value, just depends who is looking at it. $6 here $20k there.
I don't care or pay much attention to the market anymore. Speculation is the
name of the game for reselling purposes, but then even if your sitting on a gold
mind you would have to market it some how or else you would not get the premium
sale you want. If you have a huge bankroll or own a large portfolio, you will
probably profit pretty well in the traffic game. This game involves large
companies these days and have huge investments behind them. They can afford to
take a loss every now and then. I use to study these drops day in and day out
and managed to do pretty decent but the time I put in was just not worth it. Its
not hard to put a backorder on a top dollar domain and the place you put the bo
on caught it. You actually have a chance!, but wait your not quite there yet.
There are about 100 others that have it backordered at the place you got it. Ok
so now it goes to auction and now its how much money are you willing to spend?
Theres alot of money involved in the industry and theres those that can afford
and don't mind investing a goldmind price. Some sales even have me wondering if
they are even real and how they hell they expect to recoop their investment.
There is also alot of stuff that happens behind the scenes that happen.
Registrars, dropcatchers etc.. There is alot of insider stuff that occurs and
everybody knows that. Domains sold for 6 figures and being used to park for ppc,
or not even exchanging hands at all. Probably not all in bad faith but makes you
wonder. Even the registry decided to change the rules and decide that they will
not let domains drop to the public anymore. So if now if only certain domains
drop then things get a little more complicated. So now people like me will never
have a chance to get a name dropping from NetSol. I can take out a loan I guess
but then again the loan is probably not gonna go very far. I gave up in whole. I
just like the internet and think its a whole different world. I make sites in my
spare time and make a few programs here and there. I taught myself how to
program this year and now I'm learning web design. At the same time I'm making
great money with little advertisements here and there. I have made alot of money
like this and the revenue generated is not going to make me rich but I have not
worked for awhile. I get a many checks, deposits & instant transfers
weekly and even daily and To be honest I did not realize it until recently that
I must have been a total idiot for not trying this earlier. I still have domains
parked here and their but its because I have no use for them. You would think my
porfolio would go down but it has staid pretty constant. I want to be one of
those people that has 1000 sites all over the web and some have meaning
whatsoever or will never be updated again. I see these sites all over the web
and I can only imagine what kind of operation they are running today. A cookie
cutter site made as a child and has not moved since. PPC sites, one normally
visits it and if they try all the links, they have seen everything and it
becomes basically a ghost unless somebody developes it. I noticed a couple of my
sites, low quality but lots of content keep on climbing in traffic. I was
chasing 3 -6 cents a click when doing the traffic stuff. So when someone buys
some merchandise off the site that your traffic sent, you are more then likely
just paid for the click which very seldoms exceeds $1. Now Lets assume that you
have 5000 hits a day and your click through rate is 6% which I consider to be
very good. I am going to use the figure $0.08 because when I use to use sedo
most of my traffic was generating about 6 cents. Wait lets give it 10 cents a
click. So now you have 5,000 hits a day and your averaging 10 ($1 here, 50 cents
there 6>3 cents average) a click. If you think that is low, log into your DomainHop or your Sedo account
and compare, while your there you might want to check on your click through rate.
I made clothing site that nets over 10x that a day alone. I don't hold any mechandise
and have never shipped an item before, its all through affiliates which these
days will ship anything with your business name, address, give you a 1-800#,
your own support staff etc...So what would happen if I use the same code x
30 and use a different product line for each one. It only takes one line of text
code to do this and It could probably do a whole lot better with a google
ad on top or something. The banner alone would probably pay more then what I was
getting from Sedo, but wait! Doesn't Sedo use Google feeds? So that means the
whole time I was like the 2nd or 3rd affiliate down the initial
advertisement bid? The site I was talking about uses a pure amazon feed and has
little custimazation done by me. Traffic is less then 300 a day. All I do is
rotate the merchandise every 14 days. But you see, I'm doing the same thing
people parking their domains are. I am helping online businesses generate
income. We are all doing the same thing. I have dumb sites all over the web. My
web design skills are horrible yet I am proud of myself for every thing I upload
to my server. But arnt they are is just a bunch of text based files? Anybody
that knows me knows that I have been in the business not much longer then my
member registration date. I have never been one to brag about a sale or
publicize any end user sales I had. I just like to learn and share what I know
if anybody cares to listen. I may have leaked a couple but I did not set my
standards by what others have accomplished. Check my profile and you will see
that I use to trade domains very frequently. That reminds me I also have a blog
that generates revenue from ads. I have been using free webhosting for a
very long time now and its about time now so I really had no expenses. But as of
next week I will finally have my own server (shared) Revenues would pay for that
expense. Children post my site on chat forums and I get traffic and sales. Same
thing when somebody posts a link on a forum like this. Its what I call magic
traffic. Submission to google take one second to do and backlinks just magically
appear because somebody like or disliked something about your site and posted it
somewhere whether it was in an email, chatroom or just telling their friends at
school. There have been times when we were getting paid $5+ a click for a domian
registration ad. Thats alot to me considering I have never sold a domian for
over $2 profit on any of my registration sites and theres companies paying that
much for just a simple visit? I did not do this for the money at all. This was
one big accident. I started using the computer because I couldn't afford to go
hand out with the other girls being 19 and and not having a job or car. So when
I got done with my homework I would post on message boards. All kinds of them.
There are only a few a visit now and those are ones that I learn from, run or
ones that I help out with. The moral of the story its money that you are looking
for, you need not look very hard or far. I turned 21 not too long ago and have
learned in this past year more then any book or school could have taught me.
Some of the greatest teachers I had were for an example a 16 year old whom I met
in a chatroom that taught me alot about the more technical side of the internet.
He is 16 years old and runs his own webhosting, design company and also programs
for for fun. His father who was a full time bus drive quit his job to work for
his 16 year old son. Look where your at and and look at the people around you.
When I get all these emails, it still overwhelms me. Recipes, dirt, mud, salt
water, chips of wood, bark etc.. Theres a market for everything. Its magic
really, I can't touch or hold anything that I'm doing, I have never met any of
my distibuters or sever seen a single face of any of my customers. Even phone
calls are very seldom. Everything you do can be turned into income here. Its not
hard. Posting on a message board, even surfing the web, reviewing a new product,
theres no need to look far if you only have a $40 investment. Something can be
made out of nothing here. Want proof? NamePros.com Look at those that will come
here and read this forum through the years to come. Members come and go and take
a chunk of knowledge with them. Posts become cached and time passes by. Sorry
this was part of a piece I was writing for a local paper here lol. Just a
rough draft and bits and pieces were moved around. I'm hoping to chuck a few
links in there because I also run a local site about the night life here and
this would be a great plug. There is nothing but truth in what I wrote. I hope
some of the newer members realize whos who in the business.