.tv Enom raises premium prices

[Len]

I have noticed that some of the premiums I am interested in have had a price hike at Enom. It seems that it was across the board as even those that were $100 are now $120,(doesn't seem like much but in real terms it is 20%).

Looks like the best prices are at Name.com now......unless anyone knows better.

 

[Jeff]

I thought they were doing away with .TV "Premium pricing"?? :red:

With the difficulty most are experiencing with selling their ".TV's", it is hard to imagine why Enom would be raising their prices (while also serving as a disincentive to those End users that may have considered acquiring & uniquely developing so-called 'Premium' .TV domains), IMHO.
Double whammy!

Good Luck,
Jeff

 

[equity78]

Len they increased them a few weeks ago.

Jeff no one ever said premiums were going away, premium renewal went away for new premium .tv regged after 3/18/2010.

 

[Jeff]

Jeff no one ever said premiums were going away, premium renewal went away for new premium .tv regged after 3/18/2010.

Many have been asking for a "buyout" for so-called Legacy "Premium" .TV's; that would effectively be a request for getting rid of Premium pricing IMHO. :gl:
And, now, the new, no-more-Premium "Premium pricing" ... just adds to the confusion! :red: :imho:

Regards,
Jeff

 

[equity78]

There has never been talk of doing away with upfront premiums only premium renewal? Keep trying troll.

 

[Len]

Len they increased them a few weeks ago.

Jeff no one ever said premiums were going away, premium renewal went away for new premium .tv regged after 3/18/2010.

Thanks Ray, looks like the pricing war never took off in a big way as I thought it may do now there are more registrar's in the premium market.

 

[Jeff]

There has never been talk opf doing away with upfront premiums only premium renewal?

Then why is it acceptable that there are "up-front" Premiums (while Premium renewals are seemingly unacceptable)? :blink:
Having neither would seem to be universally acceptable, IMHO.

Regards,
Jeff

 

[equity78]

Not acceptable for Verisign. Why are not all names reg fee, why are domains allowed to be sold for a profit ? Verisign liked .tv so much they bought the whole company. People paid a premium via auction for many .me, for 1 & 2 character .biz. Upfront premium is more accepted than premium renewal.

 

[Jeff]

Not acceptable for Verisign. Why are not all names reg fee, why are domains allowed to be sold for a profit ? Verisign liked .tv so much they bought the whole company. People paid a premium via auction for many .me, for 1 & 2 character .biz. Upfront premium is more accepted than premium renewal.

^ That's my point (in addition to all the pricing confusion), as the O.P. states "Enom raises premium prices" ... so any increase to these upfront Premiums is purely more profit (ie., GREED ) to the Registry (and at the expense of enthusiasts)! :imho:

In this context, what occurs with either the .BIZ or the .ME is irrelevant. :imho:
Best regards,
Jeff

 

[equity78]

Verisign can do whatever they like, don't like it, don't reg it. End of Discussion. Verisign is not coming here and explaining their methods. And no what other extensions do is not irrelevant. This conversation is irrelevant I will give you that.

 

[freedom30]

...hey, that's just life!

 

[Jeff]

Verisign can do whatever they like, don't like it, don't reg it. End of Discussion. Verisign is not coming here and explaining their methods. And no what other extensions do is not irrelevant. This conversation is irrelevant I will give you that.

The discussion is most certainly not irrelevant; that Verisign (or the teeny isle of Tuvalu) can do anything they want, whenever they want ... including raising prices or potentially even going back to the old hefty annual Premium renewal fees ... is of importance to those considering owning and developing ".TV" domain names, IMHO.
Uncertainty has certainly gripped in aftermarket trading! :imho:

Night,
Jeff

 

[Len]

Uncertainty has certainly gripped in aftermarket trading! :imho:

Night,
Jeff

I don't know what you are smokin Jeff! What has this thread got to do with the aftermarket?

As the thread starter I was pointing out that Enom had raised their premiums.......Not Name, not Dynadot etc, just Enom. I also asked if anyone knew if there may be a registrar that is a little cheaper.

From what you have written throuhout this thread I see know relevance to my post. You go on and on about premium pricing like you have always done as though it is a critical factor for the ext to survive!

Despite the fact that any premium reg'd after March 18, 2010 is only subject to the initial premium price which is far less than it used to be you continue onward with your crusade of doom and gloom (BTW Pessimist.tv is available for $136.25).

None of us liked the previous premium system but I tell you this, I am now able to buy excellent domains at a price I would consider in most cases to be less than if the domain went to auction. I see no difference between paying $500 for a domain through auction versus $500 for a premium domain with a normal renewal.

You also harp on about the "Low" prices being paid at auction and that there is no value in .tv and yet complain about the "High" prices paid for premiums......Typical cover all bases ploy by someone who has no intention of having a real discussion, just beat their own drum and drown out the rest!!

 

[Jeff]

Despite the fact that any premium reg'd after March 18, 2010 is only subject to the initial premium price which is far less than it used to be you continue onward with your crusade of doom and gloom (BTW Pessimist.tv is available for $136.25).

If the initial premium prices are being raised, it is, and will continue to be, a potential detriment to the (after)marketplace ... this is not "doom and gloom", it's just the reality of the situation as I stated above;
Along with all current the pricing confusion, as the O.P. states "Enom raises premium prices" ... so any increase to these upfront Premiums is purely more profit (ie., GREED ) to the Registry (and at the expense of enthusiasts)! :imho:

I don't understand why there have to be any "Premium fees" for .TV's (and it would also be an incentive to get more End users on board, as well)! :yell:
IMHO.

Regards,
Jeff

 

[Debt.tv]

If the initial premium prices are being raised, it is, and will continue to be, a potential detriment to the (after)marketplace ... this is not "doom and gloom", it's just the reality of the situation as I stated above;
Along with all current the pricing confusion, as the O.P. states "Enom raises premium prices" ... so any increase to these upfront Premiums is purely more profit (ie., GREED ) to the Registry (and at the expense of enthusiasts)! :imho:

I don't understand why there have to be any "Premium fees" for .TV's (and it would also be an incentive to get more End users on board, as well)! :yell:
IMHO.

Regards,
Jeff

I agree again Jeff....even the current pricing "scheme" in my opinion hurts the ext. I mean who came up with these prices and why...if you are going to release the names, just release them and stop the pricing game or war or what ever the "F" you want to call it. None of this is good for the extension or the aftermarket. The number of domains available with the current "premium prices" is a drop in the bucket to verisign....they need to just let go and then the ext. will begin to thrive.

Eric

 

[equity78]

If the initial premium prices are being raised, it is, and will continue to be, a potential detriment to the (after)marketplace ... this is not "doom and gloom", it's just the reality of the situation as I stated above;
Along with all current the pricing confusion, as the O.P. states "Enom raises premium prices" ... so any increase to these upfront Premiums is purely more profit (ie., GREED ) to the Registry (and at the expense of enthusiasts)! :imho:

I don't understand why there have to be any "Premium fees" for .TV's (and it would also be an incentive to get more End users on board, as well)! :yell:
IMHO.

Regards,
Jeff

Jeff Verisign is greedy just like every other domainer who tries to sell a $8 handreg .com for $3000. Really you want 400 times your money.

And this is on topic, so don't try your nonsense, Your line about you don't understand WHY THERE HAVE TO BE ANY PREMIUM PRICES ? Why do you ask that more than once ? You know the answer, so I would like you to answer why you repeat what you know the answer to.

And the .tv aftermarket is the strongest it has ever been, is it .com ? No, it was never supposed to be .com.

 

[Jeff]

I mean who came up with these prices and why...if you are going to release the names, just release them and stop the pricing game or war or what ever the "F" you want to call it. None of this is good for the extension or the aftermarket.

^ Agreed, Eric! :yell:

Your line about you don't understand WHY THERE HAVE TO BE ANY PREMIUM PRICES ? Why do you ask that more than once ? You know the answer, so I would like you to answer why you repeat what you know the answer to.

I honestly have no idea why there are (still) varying and uncertain "Premium prices" ... is it simply because Verisign is greedy? I'm tired of all this new and confusing 'pricing scheme' confusion! :imho:

And the .tv aftermarket is the strongest it has ever been, is it .com ? No, it was never supposed to be .com.

With so many outstanding results still from the recent Sedo .TV auction, the severe narrow band / limitation of Usual Suspect™ domainer "buyers" of the ones that have been reported, the now trademarked 1% Rule© ... and overall observation of continued malaise in regular Sedo .TV auctions and in the .TV sales threads, I would say things are not looking too good for the majority of folks in the ".TV" marketplace at this time, IMHO.

Kind regards,
Jeff

 

[equity78]

I would say they look the best they have ever. The sedo auction was a success. If you don't like how fast Sedo transfers names, that has nothing to do with the aftermarket. Sedo already reported those sales. Ron was out of town so no DN Journal report last week, but other sites that Sedo sends the same info too reported them last week.

Jimbo sold hand regs from $600 to $1400 in his Sedo auction, no malaise, pretty successful imo, Two Moon has been knocking the cover off the ball.

Whether a company or individual buys the name means nothing to the seller. What matters is the sale.

But again your knowledge or expertise on this extension comes from where ? Sitting back watching counts for nothing.

Everyone has an opinion and is entitled to give their opinion. Not everyone has knowledge on the topic they are espousing their opinion on. Its up to each person to know the difference.

 

[Jeff]

Jimbo sold hand regs from $600 to $1400 in his Sedo auction, no malaise, pretty successful imo, Two Moon has been knocking the cover off the ball.

^ Congrats, which domains? :blink:
As I mentioned, the majority of .TV owners are not experiencing similar results, and I too look forward to more reporting from the DNJ and the recent Sedo .TV auction "sales", IMHO.

Getting back to the topic of Enom raises premium prices ... I think this pricing confusion leads to uncertainty, and this uncertainty - for the majority of those presently trying to sell their .TV's - is problematic toward that cause/goal! :imho:
I am in favor of standardized Reg. fee $Xx AND $Xx renewal fees for all .TV's! :yell:
IMHO.

Just my two sense,
Jeff

 

[MrRhee]

Despite all the disinformation & noise spread by the usual concerned suspects, there's lots of activity on the .TV premium list. Many are being sold. In fact, it appears that Monday was a very active day.

Let's also keep in mind that when Enom lowered their prices to compete in the price war, they chose to sell some names AT COST or BELOW COST. They simply have chosen to modify their pricing to where it was before... leaving Name.com as the cheapest premium reseller (for now).

IMHO & AFAIK: there is no conspiracy, as some people would have you believe.