.tv dot tv is worth ?

[hullswingerscom]

am now starting to think dot tv is only worth its salt if you develop it.
if you park it flip it try to sell it reg fee only.i know the odd ones do go for ok money .does the web need anymore website i wonder.there is one winner enom.godaddy.ohh thats two.. blablablatv.com is what joe public will type
10 years from not then maybe ...its worth the wait if i live that long.

 

[DnEbook]

I have gone into this , perhaps expecting a long wait ..... the market is only so big , just gotta wait or develop ..... some investment take time to mature , it's that simple

 

[smashfactory]

hulls-sweetie-, listen....
as i am writing this, there are 15 members and 19 guests reading the tv forum. guests.
now, how do you expect anyone to buy anything from you if you keep posting doomsday tv posts?
namepros is listed on alot of sites, and as new people come in, you dont want to be negative weekly about .tv- especially when it has been said plenty of times that .tv is still in its "infancy" since its rebirth-

you made another recent post about no tvs being worth 10 grand- ok, did you miss the sale of surface.tv, hot.tv, livemusic.tv, auctionnetwork.tv and many others??

you must be patient, you must work your names, and you must be positive!

 

[jeffoverman]

I agree with smash. Be positive!

.tv is exploding and gaining ground one step at a time

If things were easy we would all be rich, sitting on our yaughts and etc

Heck, I wouldn't believe this but I am getting type in traffic even on tv, ppc ads and earning money deciding what to do lol for developments and cash

There are so many nice sales on record

I can also tell you this from first hand, a lot of deals being closed behind closed doors. People prefer that route, I know I do and 95 percent of my buys I don't even care to announce or its no ones business

Hang in there

Having some Wisky, look at the growth trends, look at Justin.tv and the real powers behind .tv

J

 

[kubativity]

smash, I agree with your attitude and positive thinking. This frame of mind is the only way to achieve success. Opinions should be openly expressed on our forum without criticism of the point of view. It is important to examine these valid doubts about the extension. After all, many people here have a vested interest in researching and understanding as much about domains and the industry as possible. Even the "negative" points. It would be more effective to ask why? What are the facts behind the fears and are they valid doubts. There is an element of risk in any investment so it is natural for people to express skepticism.

In regards to having a ten year plan with .tv names, one should consider that the entire structure of the internet and how we interact with media will drastically change over the course of that much time. It is not wise to base your investments on the fact that domain names will be necessarily necessary. I recommend 3 year planning as you can safely assume that we will interact with the media in a similar way and the likelihood of the internet evolving drastically in that time is small. With a 3 year plan you can aim for some high returns if .tv continue to do well.

 

[hullswingerscom]

i had a few to many drinks last night what i was trying to say was and only maybe dot tv needs to be developed to be worth more then the fee for the name.thats all
and it will take time for it to be known to people outside this forum.i did not put my point over very well.at the end of the day what do i know very little.

and how many website do we need about movies/cars/trains...do we realy need anymore .
but i am not knocking.tv things take time i know.
one thing is for sure..if we all say how great tv is everyones happy...if you start having a opiniun that every thing is not so Rosie then domainers get a little bit fed up me ,so ill just say everything is great in the garden.

if i come on here and hype tv up everyone will love me.......
tv is big big big the best thing since sliced bread ,there everyone now loves me.
am going to a swingers club tonight utopia and i have a few cards made out
about my swingtv sites to put on the bar. and i have told lots people at partys about dot tv i am not all negative...

 

[rokoroko]

be positive and develop,
I can share with you I am developing pornvideo ,the me.tv is just instead of parking,
so in one month I can show you new youporn website.

 

[hullswingerscom]

not to sure you can put porn on me.tv..i think the rule is they all have to look exactly the same.

 

[memorablename]

Mike, I was a domainer in the mid 1990's, which was effectively the start of domaining as we know it today

Believe me, for quite a while, people were saying exactly the same thing as you said and would not pay reg fee for some .com domains that other people registered and later on went to sell for a lot of money, in some cases hundreds of thousands of dollars

We're seeing the same thing in .tv today. Hang on in there, and you'll make money if you get your strategy right..

The problems will gradually work themselves out. .TV will become better known, the reg fees will go down (.com registrations were originally free, then went to $100, came down to $50, then gradually down to where they are today), etc

Hang on in there and you'll be OK...

am now starting to think dot tv is only worth its salt if you develop it.
if you park it flip it try to sell it reg fee only.i know the odd ones do go for ok money .does the web need anymore website i wonder.there is one winner enom.godaddy.ohh thats two.. blablablatv.com is what joe public will type
10 years from not then maybe ...

 

[hullswingerscom]

few weeks back i was telling them to go to my site they were saying is that membersonlytv.com some even said is that a tranny site.there is a lot of Confusment .but know one has ever said that the tv goes well with the com on here.?
i do think in time things will be ok ,thinking of a good name is the easy bit.with dot tv
its the waiting what the hardest.but i will wait i have diana.tv what got 380 hits.
last mth on sedo so some people have heard off dot tv.

Hang on in there and you'll be OK...cheers mate

 

[equity78]

.tv is it a transvestite site? You hang with an interesting crowd. Mike you do not have to say .tv is great. I have never said .tv was great. It is an extension, you can put a video on a .com,.cn,.co.uk or 240 other extensions. So video does not make .tv great or a money maker.

What .tv does IMO is provide opportunity in a universally recognized phrase. People know what TV means. It is intuitive Sexy.tv is more intuitive than Sexy.za the extension helps brand the Domain name. Wet.tv implies something more than Wet.tm IMO. .tv provided the opportunity to reg a domain like Diana for you, would you have put out the xx,xxx in .com or x,xxx in co.uk or .net or .org ? There is the opportunity, not greatness there is nothing great about two characters on a screen. The great part is up to you.

The other thing there are people who came into .tv in 2007 thinking they were buying a hot stock. This is not a get rich quick scheme. Do you know how long the people regging .com in the 90's waited to get rich? Not overnight, not in 3 years for early investors in the .com extension.

Another thing I see is people here who have some good names who continue to look to reg more so so domains. Take that money put it into development or at least use it for arbitrage to bring traffic to your quality .tv. Again IMO

 

[rodash]

Do you know how long the people regging .com in the 90's waited to get rich? IMO

Who's rich? I'm still waiting for my boat to come in.

I've got dot coms that I think are very good names, and I've had them since the mid 90s, and I can honestly say that I can count the number of offers I have had for dozens of these names on one hand. Some very good dot com names that I own I have had no offers at all.

What really bugs me about domain name forums is the number of people pumping up their names, saying they have had big offers, when my experience suggests many of them have had no such offers. That's a sales trick to hook people, and that's not very nice.

The reality with domain names - all domain names - is that unless you have a key dot com name that generates genuine key-in traffic on a substantial scale, you really need to develop your name as a website (and get big volumes of traffic through it) in order to get some kind of return ... Either that or else wait a very, very long time to get a capital gain of any real significance.

I think it's better that people understand this truth rather than go on under the false apprehension that their good-sounding domains are going to pay off big time. From what I've seen, the higher prices being paid for some dot coms in the TRAFFIC auction are down to luck and chaos, rather than sound business principles.


Sorry if that's being negative but IMHO that's where it's at.

..

 

[equity78]

So there you go some from the mid 90's not even there yet so shows even more those in .tv need to wait and that is why quality over quantity, renewal fees add up if you need to pay for three to six years waiting for a substantial profit.

 

[hullswingerscom]

i must say the post in this thread have been very interesting i thank you for that and your honesty,i am now putting all my effort into development not more names,this is the hard bit.maybe a thread for development help would be good idea to get these dot tv out there and not just parked.

 

[heroes]

There are 281 TLD extensions as at the time of this post*.

20 are gTLD's and 261 are ccTLD's.

This is what the competition is for the .tv ccTLD to get noticed. Sure, the historic default TLD is .com but that then leaves only 280 to get noticed above.

Now consider the fact that .tv is available (along with only 10-20 other TLD's) for registration on the front "Register a Domain" page of all the major Domain Registrars is a huge plus and an endorsement of the TLD's popularity IMO.

It also has its own sub Forum (along with only 2 other TLD's - .us and .mobi) on NP which has 71,508 Registered Members, most of whom are probably domainers in one capacity or another.

Almost daily now there are companies and organizations announcing and launching .tv sites often in conjunction with their established .com site. The example I often refer to is mercedes-benz.tv. You just don't see that with other TLD's - .mobi being the exception.

Finally, the emergence of the likes of YouTube; bandwidth availability; and the growing expectation of video on a site (porno sites were mainly pictorial only 2 years ago and now they are mostly video) has put the perfect acronym to describe all this - .tv - front and center stage.

Given the above, I think that's one hell of a starting point for the re launch of a TLD that is still in its "infancy".


*According to IANA (Internet Assigned Numbers Authority) which is the entity that overseas global IP address and other Internet protocol assignments. IANA is operated by ICANN.

 

[memorablename]

From what I've seen, the higher prices being paid for some dot coms in the TRAFFIC auction are down to luck and chaos, rather than sound business principles.

Sorry, I dont totally agree with you here. Luck does play a big part, yes, but, IMO, what is more important than luck is getting the right strategy

If you dont get your strategy right in domaining, the biggest booms will pass you by, irrespective of what TLD's you have, and you'll wonder why things are going wrong while some others seem to be getting it right. Again IMHO...

 

[TheBulldog]

In every discussion there must be an opposing opinion. Without it, all relevant facts tend to be overlooked.

To only have a forum with a bunch of cheerleaders is suicide. If the TV section was entirely "tv is great, come one, come all to the glorious revolution of the great and mighty Zod that is tv" then sooner or later people will be drinking the red punch and going to sleep the way of Jonestown in 1978 when things got a little scary.

All opinions should be welcomed and debated. If someone says "you must dev" then give them a chance to explain their stance. If someone says buy and hold, then they too should be allowed to speak their mind.

The whole point of a debate is to bring knowledge and thoughts on the subject to the table and then let the others make up their own mind about what opinion or facts are correct.

While I respect all opinions here, I don't think it's fair to newcomers to only hear the rosy goodness that is tv, without also knowing some of the trials and tribulations others are going through.

If I was a newbie here......well I would be registering crap names hand over fist and begging for appraisals......but I would also hopefully be reading what others have gone through as well so that I could further educate myself about the subject.

My OPINION right now is that unless you have killer names that are getting offers, or getting plenty of parked clicks that pay the reg fees, then you should probably throw up a quick and dirty site with content, or go full blown dev in order to make your names more appealing and try to sell them that way. <------That is my opinion and experience. If you look back 7-8 months or so, you will see that I was poo-pooing dev at the time. I now see that that just isn't working because the market isn't strong enough and people aren't beating down the doors on "ok" names. The offers are coming for great names, but certainly not all of them. I would hazzard a guess that the names selling in the aftermarket for large prices are being bought for development and not as a park it investment tool. <-------Again, my opinion.

 

[smashfactory]

agreed, when there is a valid opposing view- i am all for knowing both ends of anything-
but this is hulls- and he is a good guy, but if you have followed his posts, he gets discouraged easily-

this is not about cheerleading or blocking opposing views- they are needed for anything to have a solid foundation

but little hulls here, he needs some encouragement at times- and that is all i was doing- hulls always comes around- he is a cool guy

but ya'll can stop now - i wasnt advocating a rose colored world- i was reading someone and helping him move along-

 

[TheBulldog]

Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh........

Would it help if I was discouraged because I didn't make $500 last week in tv related sales? Doom doom doom for all.

Where's my scotch? Oh there it is. Hey why is the bottle so empty?

 

[hullswingerscom]

yep this is true all for one and one for all,we all need a little help form time to time
i like to think am always there to help anyone new to dot tv and give a honest view
anyways i feel a lot better after starting this thread even if everyone else is fed up lol