.ca Dot CA Discussion, Sales, and Showcase

[whitebark]

Domains For Next MyID .ca Auction

These are the upcoming domains and reserve range for the next/current myid.ca auction:

666.ca ($1751 - $2500)
Acrobats.ca ($251 - $500)
affordabletrips.ca ($251 - $500)
AirportRentals.ca ($1001 - $1750)
albertabyowner.ca ($251 - $500)
BridalOnline.ca ($1001 - $1750)
Broke.ca ($5001 - $7500)
CanadianDrugStores.ca ($501 - $750)
CanadianTennis.ca ($1001 - $1750)
CarStore.ca ($1001 - $1750)
CheaperFlights.ca ($101 - $250)
CraftSales.ca ($501 - $750)
DiscountTours.ca ($1001 - $1750)
DivorceTips.ca ($501 - $750)
DownloadFreeRingtone(s).ca ($2 - $100)
DUILawyers.ca ($1001 - $1750)
EasyIncome.ca ($751 - $1000)
EcoVoyage.ca ($251 - $500)
EngineeringCareer.ca ($751 - $1000)
Enlargement(s).ca ($751 - $1000)
ExoticHolidays.ca ($1001 - $1750)
FashionOnline.ca ($2501 - $3750)
Fertiliser.ca ($1001 - $1750)
FitnessJob.ca ($751 - $1000)
FlightSearch.ca ($1001 - $1750)
Freebies.ca ($7501 - $10000)
FreelancingJobs.ca ($2501 - $3750)
FurnitureLiquidation.ca ($751 - $1000)
GayBlog.ca ($251 - $500)
GayCanada.ca ($3751 - $5000)
HealthGuide.ca ($1001 - $1750)
HearingAids.ca ($7501 - $10000)
Hired.ca ($7501 - $10000)
HockeyGame.ca ($1001 - $1750)
homegardens.ca ($251 - $500)
HowToDance.ca ($501 - $750)
iBlogs.ca ($751 - $1000)
InternetHelp.ca ($251 - $500)
InternetPhones.ca ($1751 - $2500)
JFK.ca ($1001 - $1750)
JointVenture.ca ($2501 - $3750)
KitchenWare.ca ($1001 - $1750)
Lake-Ontario.ca ($1001 - $1750)
LogosOnline.ca ($501 - $750)
Mask.ca ($3751 - $5000)
MontrealLaser.ca ($251 - $500)
MontrealTravel.ca ($1001 - $1750)
MusicJob.ca ($751 - $1000)
NutritionJob.ca ($751 - $1000)
OakvilleFlowers.ca ($501 - $750)
OnlineCoupons.ca ($1001 - $1750)
OnlineDates.ca ($2501 - $3750)
OnlineGaming.ca ($2501 - $3750)
OnlineStock.ca ($751 - $1000)
OnlineStocks.ca ($751 - $1000)
OrganicStore.ca ($1751 - $2500)
PharmaceuticalCareer.ca ($751 - $1000)
PizzaRestaurant(s).ca ($101 - $250)
PrivatePilots.ca ($501 - $750)
ProFootball.ca ($251 - $500)
QuebecHoneymoons.ca ($1001 - $1750)
RollerBlading.ca ($5001 - $7500)
SaskatoonRealtors.ca ($101 - $250)
SelfImprovement.ca ($1751 - $2500)
Sensual.ca ($10001 - $15000)
Shareware.ca ($15001 - $25000)
SingleChristian.ca ($251 - $500)
SmallJob.ca ($1001 - $1750)
SNN.ca ($251 - $500)
Snores.ca ($1751 - $2500)
SportsStore.ca ($501 - $750)
TechJobs.ca ($2501 - $3750)
TeddyBear.ca ($1001 - $1750)
Theme.ca ($2501 - $3750)
TNN.ca ($251 - $500)
TorontoComputer.ca ($251 - $500)
TorontoComputers.ca ($251 - $500)
TorontoDentists.ca ($2501 - $3750)
TravelAuction.ca ($2501 - $3750)
UniqueGifts.ca ($2501 - $3750)
UsedHouses.ca ($251 - $500)
UsedLaptops.ca ($1751 - $2500)
Valuable.ca ($501 - $750)
VancouverHomeForSale.ca ($101 - $250)
War.ca ($1751 - $2500)
Women.ca ($50000)


I can see a number of these getting picked up - there a few others I'm surprised they accepted the high reserve and can't see selling because of it. What do you think?

 

[DomainRecap]

Look for some advice from those with success in .ca sales.

Not sure I'm the right person to comment (g) but all my recent sales have been through Sedo and Afternic, probably about half and and half - might be better on Afternic if I kept up my listings there.

 

[DomainRecap]

On another note, .CA lowballers seem to be on the rise, as this week alone I have received multiple offers at my minimum amount (low 3-figures) that I have countered and then immediately the bidder closes negotiations and runs off. And the counters aren't outlandish, just more than minimum.

It's okay, as my strategy is to put a BIN on the auction at slightly more than my counter and see who blinks first. Surprisingly I am 3 for 3 using this strategy, and one company even apologized for the conduct of their employee for breaking off negotiations in a huff.

 

[Bob Hawkes]

Can you share your perception of the type of names that are getting offers and sales @DomainRecap and others with success? Are they mainly single word? Geo related? Any brandables? or is it all over the map?

 

[DomainRecap]

All over the map, but I really only buy LLL and short words or brandables. Nothing over 7 letters unless it's really good

 

[DomainRecap]

I noticed something else about the "new" CIRA, now when you look up domains that are dropping, they no longer say "available on the TBR of D/M/Y" (or whatever it said) and now list old WHOIS data.

Weird.

 

[DomainRecap]

Uh oh, it's almost 4:30 and still no TBR run results - I remember a snafu happened after the last CIRA update and no one knew which domains were selected or when.

 

[rlm]

"These unasked for changes to the TBR are atrocious. The new setup is complicated, unwieldy and slow to load. I never asked for CIRA's help to parse the TBR list, I have had my own system for over 10 years.

yeah I said something similar. said you're trying too hard to fix something that isn't broke, but instead you made it much worse... also complained about the slow loading. Hopefully other's follow your lead and we'll nag them to at least keep the old page up and running in parallel with their new crap.

 

[rlm]

Anyone hear anything about today's TBR? I heard CIRA effed it up (due to the fury changeover) and that they may be re-running it next week.

Also - I'm not a fan of the new whois results either.... ugh. it used to be much cleaner and elegant.

 

[rlm]

Not sure I'm the right person to comment (g) but all my recent sales have been through Sedo and Afternic, probably about half and and half - might be better on Afternic if I kept up my listings there.

I don't use either, so I'm curious (if you don't mind sharing), what price ranges of .CA are actually selling on those platforms, and do you notice, are these end users or domainers buying your domains?

 

[DomainRecap]

Anyone hear anything about today's TBR? I heard CIRA effed it up (due to the fury changeover) and that they may be re-running it next week.

They definitely screwed up, but it's still out whether they'll assign the selected domains internally (based on server times) or rerun the entire thing later.

This has happened before, and they've allocated names the next day, but without releasing results - so you have to guess when registering leftovers. But we'll have to see what happens.

Pulling this "massive update" card mid-week was insane, millennium-style management to a "T", all without an iota of business process, testing, training, or knowledge. "Let's just do it a day before the TBR run and see what happens".

 

[DomainRecap]

I don't use either, so I'm curious (if you don't mind sharing), what price ranges of .CA are actually selling on those platforms, and do you notice, are these end users or domainers buying your domains?

For my tiny sample size over the past year or so, end users exclusively and mid 3-figures to very low 4-figures.

It's a tough market out there with lots of low-ballers.

 

[rlm]

Pulling this "massive update" card mid-week was insane, millennium-style management to a "T", all without an iota of business process, testing, training, or knowledge. "Let's just do it a day before the TBR run and see what happens".

Very stupid... Try and find an iota of information about this on their website and you wont... They should have the common courtesy to post some prior warning and then a status of the transition in a transparent manner for events like this. However they will never ever admit to anything going wrong publicly. Probably because they're too focused on using our .CA money to fund their side projects that compete with .CA - even though it was their sole mandate to run .CA for the benefit of all Canadians. Instead, it seems they run it for the benefit of themselves.

 

[rlm]

For my tiny sample size over the past year or so, end users exclusively and mid 3-figures to very low 4-figures.

It's a tough market out there with lots of low-ballers.

Ok, thanks, I appreciate that information. I guess that's a reason I don't use those marketplaces... Not much incentive to start either.

Yeah, there are always gonna be lots of lowballers out there... Can't blame them too much, some are truly ignorant about domains, no fault of their own, and some are simply just small businesses that don't need an expensive domain...

 

[DomainRecap]

Can't blame them too much, some are truly ignorant about domains, no fault of their own, and some are simply just small businesses that don't need an expensive domain...

Yeah, sure, a $20 email offer on a $499 BIN on and a tirade about how expensive it is.

Penny smart, pound stupid.

If you're that "small" then close up shop ASAP, as you don't have a chance - especially as a domain can be totally expensed out as an immediate promotional cost, not to mention sit as a resellable asset afterwards. Most business people have no clue and will routinely blow thousands on one-time newspaper or radio advertising, yet balk at $500-$1,000 on a permanent promotional tool that can upgrade their business on multiple levels.

I've done this a few times, upgrading smaller businesses with long domains to single-words, LLL or LLLL.ca domains, and it's always had a positive impact. For example, I was doing business development for a small local business that used a long 3-word .COM. I finally convinced them to pursue a LLL.ca to shorten their domain name, enhance their email, increase local SEO, and provide far better promotional opportunities.

I got the okay and contacted the owner who agreed to sell it for $500 (the company was a law office that added partners and had moved to an LLLL.ca while redirecting the LLL), and the deal got done in time for a new promotional campaign to which the LLL.ca was used. I also moved all emails to the @LLL.ca addresses, and that week they got compliment after compliment on the easy recall of the URL and especially the shortness of the email addresses. Many of their business contacts were impressed with the move to an LLL domain.

The ad also worked because the short 3-letter domain allowed the phone number to easily fit, the URL to be larger and more prominent, and created more "space" in the ads - incoming calls, website and social media hits went up and customers easily recalled the short domain, and many even commented how easy it was. Everything got easier, from business card URLs and email addresses to signage and future ad campaigns.

That $500 was nothing to what was achieved immediately, and is still being achieved there 4 years and 2 new offices later. You just need a bit of vision and business training.

 

[DomainRecap]

Anyone hear anything about today's TBR? I heard CIRA effed it up (due to the fury changeover) and that they may be re-running it next week.

It looks like they really screwed up (no TBR results, WHOIS still shows old owners) so it'll be interesting to see how they work all this out.

Do another TBR run this week? Amalgamate 2 weeks of domains into next week's run? Drink whiskey and dance in the streets?

 

[DomainRecap]

I just checked their crappy TBR page and it seems that all the February 6 TBR domains are now forward-dated to February 13, so get ready for a wild ride next week pardners!

 

[DomainRecap]

It's official, the CIRA melted down and next week's TBR run will incorporate 2 weeks of data!

 

[rlm]

Yeah, sure, a $20 email offer on a $499 BIN on and a tirade about how expensive it is.

My bad. Yes - you are very correct - I was just thinking in terms of my asking prices. If they won't spend $500 they might as well fold now! I'm sure your client was thrilled with the results from the upgrade in domain name!!

I just won't sell for anywhere near that low. To be honest, you are being WAY too nice selling any LLL to a law office for 3-figs. I don't sell _anything_ for 3 figs, just not worth the time. Yes, you can move more domains in that price range, and if your doing this on outbound sales, maybe I get it, you've put some effort into it and its better to make a sale than have wasted your time completely. But seriously, ask for a lot more!

So anyway, I was thinking more along the lines of low ball offers and I respond with 5 figure asks. I simply advise these small businesses with low ball offers to select a freely available 2-word combination as a perfectly acceptable starter domain. I'll even give them some choices to think about. I tell them when business is doing well and it makes better business sense to spend the money on an upgrade, then please come back. You can look at it as sort of an insult because I'm really saying "come back when you're actually successful and not just a wanna-be" but I do it as nicely as possible and offer them decent advice on choosing a domain, so it usually goes over well. I have had a few come back and purchase later. Some with egos will see it as the insult and buy it to prove they aren't small time. I don't really mean it as an insult, but just that these domains are priced for larger businesses with marketing budgets to justify the purchase...

 

[DomainRecap]

I just won't sell for anywhere near that low. To be honest, you are being WAY too nice selling any LLL to a law office for 3-figs. I don't sell _anything_ for 3 figs, just not worth the time.

No, I bought that from a law office (that had added a partner and moved to an LLLL) for $500, not the other way around.

 

[rlm]

It's official, the CIRA melted down and next week's TBR run will incorporate 2 weeks of data!

Yes, that's what I'm hearing too... Sounds like CIRA really screwed it up.

I received the following response from a registrar:

Today's TBR run was cancelled by CIRA. All domains will be part of
next week session.

CIRA changed its platform yesterday evening and today there are lots
of issues preventing registrars from connecting to CIRA. For example,
all requests we sent during TBR session were rejected. It was simply
impossible to connect.

So session was cancelled and all backorders will remain valid for next week.
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