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I just wrote this article on advising business owners about the dangers of not keep track of their domain name accounts and the potential of losing their domain names to "us" :lol:

Please review.

http://dnboard.com/?p=8

It is a pretty stupid scenario, so dont laugh!

Cheers Guys

Goodnight My Fellow Nameproers!
 
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You could call them cybersquatters … well most of them are, but they prefer to call themselves “Domainers” or “Domain Investors”

:lol:

Very informative article for e-biz owners. :tu:
 
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QUOTE: "You could call them cybersquatters …well most of them are, but they prefer to call themselves “Domainers” or “Domain Investors”"


Hi,

""You could call them cybersquatters …well "most of them are"


And where exactly did you find your supporting statistics for THAT claim?

Patrick
 
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What happens is when Domain Names Expire they go into a pool and Expiring Domain Name Companies catch these domain names for Domainers who wish to invest in these domain names, or hope that if they are good domain names with good Page Rank, that the previous owners (like you) may wish to buy their domain names back off you.

You could call them cybersquatters … well most of them are, but they prefer to call themselves “Domainers” or “Domain Investors”

I'm always agitated when domainers are referred to as cybersquatters. Cybersquatters are those who register in bad faith with the intent to profit from a trademarked name. I am a domainer, not a cybersquatter. The same goes for vast majority of the members in this forum.

I can't really blame you though. It's an ugly misconception that even one of my Internet Law professors bungled. She wasn't overly Internet savvy but was teaching the trademarks/copyrights portion of the course and it was in her mind that domainers and cybersquatters were synonymous.

I corrected her and continuing my stance, I'll also suggest you revise your article.
 
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Yeah, please don't give us a bad name.
 
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seven said:
...I can't really blame you though. It's an ugly misconception that even one of my Internet Law professors bungled...

seven,

The OP didn't bungle a misconception between cybersquatters and domainers.

He made a blatant statement that MOST domainers are cybersquatters.

I think he owes it to us all to show how he arrived at that conclusion.

Perpetuating a common falsehood should not be allowed ...or tolerated.

When you have the audacity to publish something ,you better be prepared
to back your position up.

>:(

Patrick
 
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lol....
 
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Already mentioned that the scenario is unlikely since a name doesn't automatically drop ;). If you miss out on e-mails and nameservers and such have been changed... log-in to your account and just renew... and you're back in business.
 
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easier said than done some don't have the funds to do that.
Fka200 said:
Already mentioned that the scenario is unlikely since a name doesn't automatically drop ;). If you miss out on e-mails and nameservers and such have been changed... log-in to your account and just renew... and you're back in business.
 
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domainers > cybersquatters. Not domainers = Cybersquatters.
 
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seven said:
I'm always agitated when domainers are referred to as cybersquatters. Cybersquatters are those who register in bad faith with the intent to profit from a trademarked name. I am a domainer, not a cybersquatter. The same goes for vast majority of the members in this forum.

I can't really blame you though. It's an ugly misconception that even one of my Internet Law professors bungled. She wasn't overly Internet savvy but was teaching the trademarks/copyrights portion of the course and it was in her mind that domainers and cybersquatters were synonymous.

I corrected her and continuing my stance, I'll also suggest you revise your article.

Yes, I agree here. It is an ugly misconception that domainers are cybersquatters. Most family/people that I talk to about my business ventures look at me a bit funny when I tell them initially that I buy and sell domain names. Then they ask the same old ignorant but classic question. "So do you try and register names like microsoftwindows.com?" I follow up by telling them that no, I look for generic and brandable or short domains to sell to companies, organizations or individuals that can utilize them. I tell them that it is not very smart or profitable to go after trademarked domains.

Billy, I guess if you think that most domainers are cybersquatters that's your opinion.. Most of us that take this seriously aren't cybersquatters nor do we appreciate the generalization.
 
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I let domains expire all the time, on purpose though!
 
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onewordonly said:
I let domains expire all the time, on purpose though!

Me too! :zzz:
 
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nicedomains said:
Yes, I agree here. It is an ugly misconception that domainers are cybersquatters. Most family/people that I talk to about my business ventures look at me a bit funny when I tell them initially that I buy and sell domain names. Then they ask the same old ignorant but classic question. "So do you try and register names like microsoftwindows.com?" I follow up by telling them that no, I look for generic and brandable or short domains to sell to companies, organizations or individuals that can utilize them. I tell them that it is not very smart or profitable to go after trademarked domains.
I get the same thing, and I'm sure we're not alone in that. ;) And whenever I try to clarify the difference between domainer and cybersquatter, I'm ridiculed, hated, and told I'm wrong...

Billy, I'm interested in hearing why you think most domainers are cybersquatters. :tu:
 
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Nah, scare em ... use "cybersquatters" to emphasis they're out there waiting to pounce on forgotten domain renewals ... and spice it up with some others like "cyberstalkers" - renewing isn't enough, one must buy domain privacy protection too!

Oh, and also toss in "typosquatters" to explain that one should register obvious variations of their business name; also in other extensions too ... plus spend a load of money on TMs.

And finally, be sure to toss in "cyberhackers" - they're waiting to steal that all important domain name / hack one's website.

After all that, a reader with an on-line business will either be so scared as to go off-line or will go all out with the maximum multiyear renewal term, and load up on all those extra domain name services :lol:

Ok, rambling on ... but seriously, for a layman's audience, "cybersquatters", while disparaging to most of us here, is likely the best term to use for people who target expired domains of others.

Ron
 
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Steve said:
I get the same thing, and I'm sure we're not alone in that. ;) And whenever I try to clarify the difference between domainer and cybersquatter, I'm ridiculed, hated, and told I'm wrong...

Billy, I'm interested in hearing why you think most domainers are cybersquatters. :tu:

Sorry I do not think most domainers are cybersquatters, I think of them as a rare breed of "investors"

Investors which 99% of the worlds internet population would not be aware of.

I mentioned cybersquatters, because that is what most people think "we" are.

I will write an article on the blog, writing about "Domain Name Investors" soon to clarify.

Thanks Everyone

Domagon said:
Nah, scare em ... use "cybersquatters" to emphasis they're out there waiting to pounce on forgotten domain renewals ... and spice it up with some others like "cyberstalkers" - renewing isn't enough, one must buy domain privacy protection too!

Ok, rambling on ... but seriously, for a layman's audience, "cybersquatters", while disparaging to most of us here, is likely the best term to use for people who target expired domains of others.

Ron

Thanks Ron
 
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Billy! said:
Sorry I do not think most domainers are cybersquatters, I think of them as a rare breed of "investors"

Investors which 99% of the worlds internet population would not be aware of.

I mentioned cybersquatters, because that is what most people think "we" are.

I will write an article on the blog, writing about "Domain Name Investors" soon to clarify.

Thanks Everyone



Thanks Ron


Yes, you do think of us as cybersquatters. Don't try back-pedaling now!!!

This is taken from your article, word for word:

You could call them cybersquatters … well most of them are, but they prefer to call themselves “Domainers” or “Domain Investors”.

We don't need this type of press, and it's quite ridiculous that you would recant and NOT change your wording in your article.

Absolutely ridiculous.
 
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weblord said:
easier said than done some don't have the funds to do that.

$7.99 @ Dynadot... even after expiration date.
 
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DomainMayhem.com said:
Yes, you do think of us as cybersquatters. Don't try back-pedaling now!!!

This is taken from your article, word for word:

You could call them cybersquatters … well most of them are, but they prefer to call themselves “Domainers” or “Domain Investors”.

We don't need this type of press, and it's quite ridiculous that you would recant and NOT change your wording in your article.

Absolutely ridiculous.

:hehe: Shite! I have been caught out then! Well I am a bloody cybersquatter too then :alien: I own 180 names which I am sitting on waiting to make some money... sorry
 
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