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Which NPers have domain names in the live auction??

I have 3 listed:

12. CaliforniaDealer.com

190. Bricked.com

191. Pedalling.com

devil dog - 10 marinecorps.org,94107.com
coplights.com, pciwireless.com/wirelesspci.com,
sellsoftware.com,
pintos.com,
parlaying.com,
productlawyer.com,
savingsplanner.com


sharontucci - 1 ?

tight-aggressive - 3 californiadealer.com, bricked.com, pedalling.com



(4.2% of 325 live auctions)


Roundtable Live List

I imagine a large chunk of the sellers are NPers?

Good luck to everyone in the auction! %%-
 
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AfternicAfternic
How do I submit names for listing in this auction?
 
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PowerUp said:
How do I submit names for listing in this auction?
Little late now, I do believe.
 
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My "missing" domains did finally make it back onto the list late last night. Very odd, I wonder what was going on with that list?

I wasn't able to watch much of the auction today, so would be interested in other NPers take on it. Looks like 80+ domains sold, the max. being Retire.net at $23,500. None of the heavy-hitters sold (like Holiday.com with a reserve of $6,499,999) although there might be post-show activity on some.

Any NPer comments from those who watched?
 
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I'm still rather confused ... the domain that I received the confirming email regarding is still not in the list, and still says "Pending Review" (but it definitely said "On List" when I received that email). Now, another domain name that I had removed from the management section several weeks ago is magically back, and says "On List"? I've been working with End users on this one, independent from DT's or any other broker's services and fees. I have some :$: hot prospects, as well! Lastly, though it says "On List" ... I don't even see it anywhere ... and still no reply to my earlier emails!?! :blink:
They seem like nice folks there, but I've got better things to do with my time IMHO.

Best of Luck, of course, to everybody participating! :music:
-Jeff B-)
 
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Jeff said:
Did they get in? :blink:

PS. Looks like four domains already have (albeit, low) bids, as colored in blue! :talk:
-Jeff B-)


nope, they should have put in there they were no longer accepting domains for auction lol... it was still on the front page this morning to add your domains to this auction :sick:
 
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Well, I didn't see many domains sell scouring the results, especially towards the end.

None of mine got any bids, I thought I'd sell one...Perhaps the extended silent auction may hold promise for us?

I didn't attend this conference, so I can't speak first hand - but it seems like there just were not that many bidders.

Good luck to everyone in the silent auction that goes through the 28th.
 
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My 2 cents....

I've posted to the DT blog previously about the last 2 auctions - that the quality of the domains wasn't there. This time, I think the quality overall was a lot better however the RESERVES set by people were simply unrealistic for the market. By market, I do not mean the domain industry as a whole but who attendees of this specific auction are - primarily domainers.

I think to be successful with auctions on either the side of a seller or a buyer is really having a solid understanding of auctions in general, the domain industry as a whole and the auction you are participating in in specific.

I'll give some specific thoughts here:

1. Every auction is different. You cannot compare CAC to Roundtable to Traffic. Some people in other threads have remarked that the last CAC went poorly. But ya know what - it wasn't really much different than the previous CAC auction results wise. Not when you compare the domains that sold along with their selling prices.

--->> In this case, for those that submitted, did you spend time looking at previous RT results so you could see what sold, what were the reserves and what were the actual selling prices?

2. Further to #1, if you are trying to SELL domains consider the audience of the auction you are submitting to. Take this into account when deciding which domains to submit along with their reserves.

--->> In this case, RT is primarily a domainer audience. These are people just like you that have access to forums and many of the serious buyers have wider access to resources than most 'regular' participants do as far as buying does. The people with the deep pockets will almost always think of opportunity cost (except when true DESIRE to have a specific domain fuels them). ie if they didn't bid on a specific domain, often it comes down to that it did not represent a good value for their money.

Here's a bit of a clue (at least I think) - before submitting a domain to the next RT along with the reserve ask yourself if you posted that specific domain with the same reserve as a fixed price on here and other domain forums is it likely to sell and how fast? If you aren't confident of that, then reconsider submitting the domain and/or change the reserve. If you are guaranteed a spot in live auction as you are with RT if your domain is accepted, then also consider the idea of setting your reserve at the highest legitimate offer you had previously received and considered.

Note: I don't think this same strategy applies to other domain auctions to the same extent it does for RT.

BTW - we had Robbin.com in this @ $2500. Although it's a different spelling, it WAS a reasonable enough reserve to encourage multiple people to bid on it. I'm happy with where it ended given the audience. Yup, an end user sale may have been closer to 5 figures than being in mid 4's, but that wasn't the audience here and we accepted that.

3. Don't expect RT to do all the work for you. We proactively contacted people that had previously contacted us about the domain along with owners of other TLDs of Robbin and several companies/individual that were using that spelling of Robbin in their domain name. All you need to have a domain sell at a satisfactory price are TWO people that want a domain. Why not spend 30-60 minutes finding at least one of those people yourself?

4. From a buyer's side, you need to consider what your own approach is to this business to determine what is or isn't a deal to you along with your own resources. In my own case, I try and find the overlooked bargains that are domains I also feel I could develop if need be. In the fall Traffic, Nametrader.com and I bought 3 domains. 2 of these were sold at the start of this year TO domainers on forums for multiples of what we purchased them for. The one we haven't yet sold is one COULD sell for probably 5x what we paid within minutes of posting it on any forum.

A good percentage of domainers are interested in current traffic/revenue for a domain and how that translates to ROI at a given price. That's the easy way but unless you have deep pockets, it will be hard to compete on these domains. Others are focused on generics for development. I try and look for solid brandables, niche keyword domains that can place well in SERPS if developed or ones that are in areas that I know the market for. Sometimes a solid domain, if developed rather simply, even with little traffic can result in a huge financial payoff. Here's one example - not auction related - I have a hand reg of a specific term in an industry that is searched at specifically @ Google. I put up a simple site and since Jan last year, it has been ranked #1 on Google for that term. That one site generates mid 4 to low 5 figures a month for a business to business service. This is a longtail phrase so actual traffic is low, but it is targeted enough that the closing rate of visitors is exceptionally high.

I don't have the budget personally to even consider a 7 figure purchase (no, really hehe). But there are a lot of bargains to be had in more targeted one word generics or multiple word phrases at auctions. That's what I look for anyways.

Nametrader and I did buy one domain yesterday. I had been really interested in another domain that went for it's reserve but was unable to bid because of having some serious lag at the time. It went at - what I consider - to be a steal of a price with only one bid.


Sharon
 
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Sharon!
You are a smart and wise girl :)
 
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THanks for the interesting post Sharon. I wasn't able to watch much of the auction yesterday, but when I did there seemed to be some delay issues. The UStream feed seemed to be ahead of the bidding tool quite considerably. So I missed bidding on some domains. I also received emails from a colleague who was there saying there were only a few people actually present. In this case a functioning bidding tool was essential, as it would seem most of the bids came in online.
 
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I agree, the auctions are all very individualistic.

In the case of the 3 I had listed, it wasn't a reserve issue, one at 1500 the other two at 1000.

I do feel CaliforniaDealer.com is solid enough to sell for 1500 - perhaps 5000 to a targeted buyer. It is generic enough for an auto dealership or a gemstone dealer or?

Promotion outside the auction house by the seller is also important, particularly if one has had interested buyers before the auction.

A couple weeks back, DotComGod and others were talking about the fact that this auction was on Passover weekend - this could really hurt attendance - which may have been the case.

DRT does seem to have more domainers than those buyers who represent a group of big players who buy up xx,xxx + domain names regularly.

I am thinking the timing of the event could have played a role. The event was only an hour from me, but I was flying back from seeing family in Texas during the auction ...

I wonder if much will sell in the silent auction? Is there a link to the silent auction on domaintools yet?

Good luck everyone.
 
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Here are some statistics from DomainTools auction if you want to know: Click
 
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FusionSpy said:
Here are some statistics from DomainTools auction if you want to know: Click

Thanks FusionSpy :tri:

24% sold for an avg just under $4910/name

Less than one out of four is pretty low conversion, but the 286 remaining in the silent auction could increase the number to what half???? or is this optimistic.

canbrit said:
THanks for the interesting post Sharon. I wasn't able to watch much of the auction yesterday, but when I did there seemed to be some delay issues. The UStream feed seemed to be ahead of the bidding tool quite considerably. So I missed bidding on some domains. I also received emails from a colleague who was there saying there were only a few people actually present. In this case a functioning bidding tool was essential, as it would seem most of the bids came in online.

That is pretty horrible.

It seems many people missed a few bids.
 
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FusionSpy said:
Here are some statistics from DomainTools auction if you want to know: Click

A number of steals in there, how many of the names had more than 1 bid :?
 
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tight-aggressive said:
In the case of the 3 I had listed, it wasn't a reserve issue, one at 1500 the other two at 1000.

Reserve isn't something to be taken in isolation. It's related to the domain involved.

tight-aggressive said:
I do feel CaliforniaDealer.com is solid enough to sell for 1500 - perhaps 5000 to a targeted buyer. It is generic enough for an auto dealership or a gemstone dealer or?

I agree. If it were my domain, I'd not sell for less than 1500 either. But going back to what I said - consider the audience and their motives in buying in balance with the domain and reserve.

As a domainer in buy mode, I base my judgment on what to pay for a domain based on several factors: 1. If I needed to, could I sell the domain rapidly, how much could I realistically get? 2. How likely is it to get an end user sale with the domain and at what amount? 3. Do I know the market well enough to proactively go after an end user or can I easily figure out who to target for an end user sale? 4. Is the domain one I would like to develop? 5. What revenue will the domain generate passively, if any?

Good luck in the silent!

Sharon
 
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I guess NameBuyers are also part of this show in which I got a bunch of names approved but no info as to where or when. Everything is in secrecy. Why?. Don't know but won't waite.
 
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wot said:
A number of steals in there, how many of the names had more than 1 bid :?

I updated post with bids and at the end of post you can see that exactly 50% had 1 bid and 50% had more. Have also seen that they have updated with 2 more domain sales ( probably ) so I'll probably update everything tomorrow.

Link
 
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IMHO there were many suspect quality domains in the list as well.
 
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FusionSpy said:
Here are some statistics from DomainTools auction if you want to know: Click


Cool, Thanks - I was wondering what the results were like.



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