"Domainers" - Please Don't sell your soul !

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After just watching a programme on tv tonight and then going to visit the wrong website I just cannot beleive that "domainers" would register the name of a 4 year old girl who went missing on May 3, 2007 and then just park them to "try" and make money off it.

JUST WTF ARE YOU THINKING ? HOW COULD YOU ??

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TYPO - findmadelaine.com - Parked - Created: 2007-MAY-10

"owner" is a domain development and monetization business serving both the generic and revenue generating domain market. (yeah right, who are you kidding !)


TYPO - findmadelaine.co.uk - Parked - Registered on: 25-MAY-2007


HER FULL NAME - madeleinemccann.com -Parked - Created: 2007-MAY-05 just 2 days after she went missing

For the 3 sad people above - DO THE RIGHT THING, reg them for a couple more years and point them to the official website, money is NOT everything, show some friggin humanity for Gods sake. (if you're too stingy to do that then transfer them to me and let me pay for them)



I'm really glad I'm not in the same room as you just now....rant over - for now :|


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I hate seeing stuff like that. The best thing that could have happened here is that a domainer with a heart register the domain before some scumbag could get it...and then just forward the domain to the REAL website. I mean come on....does someone really need the $20 this name would make in parking revenues THAT bad!!?? When I see things like that frm missing children and such, I try to get the names and then give them to the parents/organization or simply forward them to ther website before some idiot tries to cash in on it. All they are doing is hindering the search for a child. makes me sick.
 
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Very sad a "domainer" can do such a thing! Money is NOT all!
 
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Kind of like a florist waking up one day reading the paper that a school bus of children was in a bad accident. He/ she gets on the phone and orders a shitload of fresh flowers, knowing full well he/ she will profit from the tragedy.

Happens everyday in lots of businesses. Only difference is we are so used to it we do not think about all those who PROFIT from pain. Why not have outrage about that too? Because domaining is such a small part of the overall economy we like to think domaining is different. It is not.
 
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Kind of like a florist waking up one day reading the paper that a school bus of children was in a bad accident. He/ she gets on the phone and orders a shitload of fresh flowers, knowing full well he/ she will profit from the tragedy.

Happens everyday in lots of businesses. Only difference is we are so used to it we do not think about all those who PROFIT from pain. Why not have outrage about that too? Because domaining is such a small part of the overall economy we like to think domaining is different. It is not.

Good Post. I bet everyone at cheney's ex company haliburton was ecstatic after 9/11....
 
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Kind of like a florist waking up one day reading the paper that a school bus of children was in a bad accident. He/ she gets on the phone and orders a shitload of fresh flowers, knowing full well he/ she will profit from the tragedy.

Happens everyday in lots of businesses. Only difference is we are so used to it we do not think about all those who PROFIT from pain. Why not have outrage about that too? Because domaining is such a small part of the overall economy we like to think domaining is different. It is not.
You're right - profiting from pain and tragedy happens.

But, in this case, domainers' greed prevents people who want to learn or submit information about the missing girl from doing those things.

It's like an advertiser plastering his poster over top of a missing child poster on a telephone pole.
 
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I don't think so Steve, just because family, church, friends who actually make a website that has real content will always supercede some stupid parked page in rankings. Only a small amount of traffic will land on a parked page, that may even provide links to more information. Not condoning it or downplaying it, just saying those who really care will create what is needed for online lookers to find what they need to help family or the search.

Yes, tragic, but Cheney-Bush have profited big time from natural disasters and hardship and pain. Those two take the cake.

How about the last Treasury CEo, Henry Paulson siphoning billions of taxpayers dollars to Goldman Sachs (where he was the Ceo before becoming Treasury head) when the plan was hatched to confiscate future tax dollars from Americans to bail out the very bankers who thru fraud, greed and crimminal bookkeeping destroyed the worlds economy?

Its a sick puppy world.
 
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There has already been a lot of similar discussions like these before. My stand on this one is i'm moderate.

I don't condemn those domainers. It's like a journalist and photographers constantly on the lookout of a good subject so it can be published, and in the end he/she can be paid for it. They write stories of a certain poor people in Asia. A photographer taking photo of a malnourished kid in Africa. It's all business.

Am i doing that type of domaining? No. Because, it's seasonal, and it could be infringing and maybe unethical. The traffic would not last.

But if i do something like that, i would put a content that would help the visitors find what they're looking for, but i will put ads on the page.
 
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Domain Investments LLC are the scum who have the name: findmadelaine.com

Their website says:
Domain Investments LLC is a domain development and monetization business serving both the generic and revenue generating domain market. Founded by hungry entrepreneur’s that have been involved since the internet revolution…dating back as far as 1995, our mission is to maximize your revenue potential by servicing each domain specifically to its unique needs.

They have a partner's page at: Welcome to Domain Investments - Our Partners.

Everyone should complain to their partners and find out why they are participating in the exploitation of this tragedy. If the partners weren't providing revenue for these type of domains, people wouldn't do this. As long as SEDO, NameDrive and the rest help these scum, this type of stuff will continue IMHO.

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There has already been a lot of similar discussions like these before. My stand on this one is i'm moderate.

I don't condemn those domainers. It's like a journalist and photographers constantly on the lookout of a good subject so it can be published, and in the end he/she can be paid for it. They write stories of a certain poor people in Asia. A photographer taking photo of a malnourished kid in Africa. It's all business.

Am i doing that type of domaining? No. Because, it's seasonal, and it could be infringing and maybe unethical. The traffic would not last.
Reporting stories about world hunger and redirecting a typo of a missing child's homepage to a parking page is not the same thing. There's a huge difference. I'm surprised that you confuse the two issues.
 
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You're right - profiting from pain and tragedy happens.

But, in this case, domainers' greed prevents people who want to learn or submit information about the missing girl from doing those things.

It's like an advertiser plastering his poster over top of a missing child poster on a telephone pole.

don't milk cartons do that, or is that a "public service" they do?
 
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tragic :(
 
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I would never reg. a domain name related to a current disaster or situation that caused people grief... I don't really have too much respect for people who do either.
 
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There is basically almost no legislation to either protect domainers, nor to protect those who might suffer at the hands of bad-faith domainers.
 
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So people is this for real?

Adam Smith says we all act in a way to serve ourselves, that is what creates products and services. I find the idea of contacting places like Sedo ridicoulous when huge pain and suffering is caused by most industry, government and that means the job your or I may have yet we are going to get upset at a domainer who wants to own a name for parking it?.

Who cares I guess if massive hunger and death is a short period away caused from the crooks who really bring pain and suffering.. thats not important... lets shout out to the world that domainers are low lifes.

Domainers are low lifes.

Domainers are assholes.

Domainers are greedy.

Domainers profit from the pain of children.

Maybe we will hang our heads low now.

I'm going to the confessional and ask forgiveness for being a domainer.
 
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Pope pious and the 12 domainers

I see no difference investing for profits or investing in tragedy domains. They both are done in the name of profits. I guess that line of thinking is how those who buy stocks of companies that create weapons for ilegal wars can sleep at night.

So does that mean you also stand outside the florist shop and picket them for selling flowers when a teen dies in a auto wreck? Those florists sure are low lifes for profiting from the pain and suffering of others.

Please do not forget to picket that flower shop or morgue if they don't provide the said services for bono whenever a tragedy comes along and someone bites the dust or is found in the woods dead. Compared to the billions made monthly by those business providers and the pennies from domains of tragedy one would think after domain fest all the folks here with a soft heart would be drawing media attention with foghorns and signs to those local places like florists, morgues, and don't forget the biggest profitters of pain and suffering the newspapers. Do you try to stop them from making a profit by publishing the news?

Maybe you protest every movie of a person who was abducted and found murdered as these movies are often made as real life stories. What did we forget these movies are made for profit, oh yeah and the actors get a millions for staring in them. And you probably really like and respect those actors right?

The tiny bit of money made from a few,( mostly newbies) who soon learn they make only pennies a month from tragedy domains is nothing compared to other industries that you and I support everyday, yet we don't give any emotion to it. Domainers who seem to think this is a big deal just want others to see that they are caring.

Did you protest the war in Irag where thousands of children were burned alive by our solders or were knifed to death or were raped and then killed? Remember this was a war based solely on lies, so every solder was profiting from that(take home pay). Once we ponder that the next line of reasoning would be you knowing this injustice then should be boycotting taxes even if it meant jail right?

My point is the couple thousand dollars made world wide by those who park such a name is not at all representive of this business, so lets do what Adam Smith says and pursue our own happiness by running our own business and not meddling in what other domainers do.

I am sure most who think the person who does this is terrible. I ask is this any worse (in my opinion not even close)then when each one of us gets in our cars and start the engines to go to work. The car raises pollution levels. You and I are responsible for the epidemic new cancers and leukemia children are getting now. The medical profession says this sickness and disease is alarmingly high,"how could they do that".

I know I have done this how about you folks.. ever pour some kind of caustic liguid on the ground or down the sink? Another little kid gets luekemia or some cancer.

We all tip our hats to the big shots in the domain field who fly from this continent to that one many times a year. It is fact jets cause major pollution. This is much worse for the millions of children dying from cancers caused by air travel. Acid rain and pollution all are killing children, but those parties at those domain fests are so fun I hear.



Why not expose those who are doing this?. I will tell you why. Because we sound like such good people when we care that some other person is profiting from a childs tragedy, yet we do this daily. Unless of course you never drive a car, take a taxi, fly or pollute in any other way.

Parking is a joke so why worry about it? They will soon learn there is not money in tragedy domains. But to try to make this action which is never going to change a public education thing is only going to hurt the domain profession.

Is this what we need...

Domainers earn money from missing or killed children as a headline in major newspapers certainly does us no good.

Don't laugh how do you think the media learned what cybersquating is or parked domains. Parking use to be something to be proud of earning money from using our brains to figure out how to monetize words. Then some who thought this was a ugly way to manage a domain name and their converts even termed phrases like "if you don't make a web site you should forfiet the name to someone who will use the name properly" Get your own domain damn it and use it the way you see fit. If you reg a tm name or child porn then you will be crossing the line. Other than that domaining is a business each person decides how to run. Like any business they are either inside the law or outside the law. Thats all that matters to registrarrs and others, after all it was their $9.99 that was spent to own the name. You got a problem with the domain and think it is a tm then sue.

Giving the media something else to label us as dirt bags is not a bit smart. Media learns it all from us right here while they scan what domainers do for possible articles. Because domainers taught them. Every week bloggers and the media writers visit this place and would it benefit us if they stumble upon "domainers who register tragedy domains for profit".

I say mind our own businesses and grow them and this tiny aspect of domaining can and will stay in the background of nothingness. Blow the horns and whistles and we get a black eye for it, those of us who are working professionals who love domaining do not deserve that.
 
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I see no difference investing for profits or investing in tragedy domains.

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Giving the media something else to label us as dirt bags is not a bit smart.


Some interesting comments considering your user name is goodkarmaco :hehe:

While I agree with alot of the stuff you said above I see a big difference when its names like this, It would be nice to change the world but that just ain't gonna happen in our lifetime is it, it does'nt mean we can't chip away at the edges.

On a human level these names being parked really offends me and I will try and do something about it if I can.

I'm not saying I am 100% innocent but I did'nt give the media something to label us by - People that register names like this do.

If this topic is too sensitive for some of the NP community then Mods please feel free to delete, I understand.

Thanks for the comments


PS - I'd also like to mention (again)that when she first went missing the owner of a prime GEO domain put up information to help with the search, as far as I remember it was Malta.com but I'm not 100% sure now - Not only is that an example of a top class human but its also a top class domainer !


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Yeah we can't change the world... but we can chip at the edges... huh?
 
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When you take a domain name that is set up to help people solve the crime of a kidnapped and possibly murdered child and redirect that traffic from it to your personal site for your profit, you are doing something obviously unethical.

Goodkarmaco, you can see this, right?
 
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Nice post i am agree with you may be it happen
 
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Yeah its like if you own a flower shop and you sell more flowers on a week when a kid gets discovered murdered. You take the money to the bank and sit next to your neighbours in Church and pretend you are better than a domain owner who makes a few cents from a parked page. I see no difference. As a matter of fact we are all engaged in making profits from tragedy and misfortune and these other enterprizes we ALL SUPPORT are much worse and bigger than what a domainer may do. So lets get off our high pedestal ok?

I only see it as a personal decision, that being said I take care to do what I can do and allow others to pursue their own destiny. So like I say this is a personal decision.
 
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I'm an atheist goodkarmaco, I don't sit in church behind some fake facade of goodness. That argument is a non-starter. You don't have to sit in church to believe in the ethics of not exploiting victimized children.

As for the florist, the florist didn't proactively hurt people to make more flower sales. If the florist was redirecting detour signs to create more car accidents and deaths to sell more flowers, I'd agree with you. As it is, the florist is not hurting anyone to make money. In fact, selling flowers helps people.

Flowers are for the living, not the dead. They bring comfort to the living. Even the extinct Neanderthals buried flowers with their dead. The flower traditions go way back crossing evolutionary lines. If selling flowers to the living provides the relatives comfort, it is a service.

Saying, "we are all engaged in making profits from tragedy and misfortune," doesn't nullify the fact that these domainers are doing something unethical and in doing so make our industry look like it is run by a bunch of cheap cybersquatters.
 
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