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Everyone should have Amy Schrier's problem.

For six months, she resisted selling the domain name Blue.com for $200,000. Using a formula she devised to fetch the highest market value for domain names, Schrier eventually convinced a private party that Blue.com was worth $500,000. Since the name was sold in March, its site now includes links to sexual material and airfare ads.

"The market will really explode when people realize they are sitting on premium real estate," says Schrier, 37, an entrepreneur in New York who bought Blue.com for $65,000 in 2002.

Dan Taylor, 54, an industrial designer in Toronto, stumbled onto his domain riches. In the 1990s, he bought Realtone.com with the intent of developing online content for skin care products. As Taylor's luck would have it, that was before ringtones became available on cell phones. When Universal Entertainment in Germany came calling for the domain name last year, Taylor sold it for an undisclosed amount.

Schrier and Taylor are among an estimated 1,000 to 2,000 individuals who make a living buying and selling domain names, though about half prefer to remain anonymous to avoid competition, says Ron Jackson, editor and publisher of Domain Name Journal.

'A long-term investment'
Most domainers buy and own names. They "park" on sites, where they develop content in the form of Web links and ads, to generate income and increase the value of their virtual real estate.

"It's a long-term investment, like owning a home," says Lawrence Fischer, vice president of business development at SmartName.com, a company that owns and manages thousands of domain names, including Stockquotes.com. "But if a major brokerage firm came along with a big offer, I would be willing to listen."

Plenty have been willing to pay. Sales of 5,851 domain names generated $29 million in 2005, compared with the sale of 3,813 names for $15 million in 2004, market researcher Zetetic says.

Venture-capital firms, too, are betting on domains. Last year, Highland Capital Partners plunked down more than $20 million on YesDirect, a holding company with 600,000 domain names. YesDirect is developing content for Web sites using the names, says Bob Davis, a managing general partner at Highland.

Further underscoring the hot domain-name market: Its biggest trade show ever took place in Las Vegas this month. About 400 to 500 domainers and investors took part - double what the same show drew a year ago, organizer Rick Schwartz says. Officials at Yahoo and Google, both of which own domain names, attended. There, the largest live domain-name auction produced $2.1 million in sales in three hours.

Like a lottery ticket
"It's like buying a lottery ticket, but the odds are better," says Ken Carey, 50, a longtime autoworker in Grand Rapids, Mich., and part-time inventor who owns 200 domain names, including Lowcostimports.com and Automotivecomputers.com. "All you gotta do is hit the right niche, and you're well on your way to being a millionaire."

When Carey thinks a technology is about to take off, he says, he buys a domain name that pertains to it. The more generic the name, the better its value, says Carey, who is about to retire.

Sometimes, the payoff is huge. Online entrepreneur Gary Kremen snagged $12 million in cash and stock this year when he sold Sex.com to Escom, an adult-entertainment company.

Sometimes, it lands the owner in legal hot water.

When Benoit Deschenes, 38, of Montreal, approached a health care conglomerate about selling it a domain name containing its name, the company balked and threatened legal action, he said. On the advice of his attorney, the unemployed Deschenes says he is selling the domain name to the company for a small, undisclosed sum.

"I never imagined it could be like this," says Deschenes, who says he collects domain names like coins and stamps. "It's a crazy time."

A surge in online ads and Web viewing have made domain names a serious business proposition. Online ad revenue is expected to reach $13.6 billion in the U.S. this year, up 14 percent from last year, according to Jupiter Media. Overall, 153 million people in the U.S. use the Web, up 2.5 percent from a year ago, Nielsen//NetRatings says.

"Those who understand domains and what they represent, can and have done very well," says Schwartz, 52, who sold Men.com for $1.3 million in late 2003, a huge profit from the $15,000 he paid for it in 1997. He bought Property.com for $750,000 last year.

And Schrier, who sold Blue.com for more than twice what she was originally offered, may soon offer advice. She intends to market her formula for getting the most value out of domain names.

How to max revenue, add value to domain names
1. Purchase a domain name.

2. Build a Web site based on the name, and establish Web links to related sites.

3. Place ads on your Web site.

4. Add content.

5. Sell products on the site, establishing an e-commerce model.

Source: Internet REIT
 
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AfternicAfternic
ok it was interesting and informative.
 
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As more and more people find out about this, the harder it gets for us.
 
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What was the most expensive price paid for a domain...anyone know?
 
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good article.....
 
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A good read.
 
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interesting article
 
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Good read, thanks!
 
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"when more people find out about this the harder it gets for us"

On the surface one would think that to be true. But all the examples of names sold reported in this article are not the norm. Very rare events that forums and auction houses like to quote for examples of how profitable the domain business is.

The trouble with doing that is it is misleading of the overall market. Sure the domain sales have gone up and some big sales have occured. But really those sales are few and far between and the average domainer that also has great names are not getting them sold because they are hidden away in the auction houses amongst the millions and millions of domain names that are available.

I am not sure if 1,000 to 2,000 domain people make a living selling domains. I always heard that amount of people were the domain owners. How many of those 1,000 to 2,000 domain owners have not sold a name? How many have sold a couple or a few for a few bucks.. say $20. to $50.?

Also the domain business news folks seem to talk up sales like everything is red hot. The elite sellers are enjoying big sales and those are glamourized. Really though if you have several huge auction houses and they have tens of millions of domain names for sale combined and around fifty names sell combined daily is that this markets potential?.

So letting this "good news" out is not going to affect us the average domainer in the least. What it will do is draw in people who think it is easy to sell names and they will make the registers lots of ca- ching when they too register a zillion names.

No, more names will not affect our sales. What we want to make sure is this.. that the folks who have said they are the auction houses and say they will move our names do so.

To do that they will need to get with it and start an aggressive advertising program to draw end users to the auction houses.

I think more people should find out about domain names. But defining who those "more people" are is the magic bullet for us domain sellers. We want more people to look to the auction houses to solve a need they have. That need is to deliver the perfect name to them.

In my opinion a lot of the large sales and even alot of the average or lower price sales are from other domainers!

Why is it every large corporation spends to market to the end user? McDonalds sells the sizzle, Starbuck- sells quality, walmart sells value. What do the auction houses sell? Basically today they sell parking. The few names that sell prove they are not going after that market,. Nope.. they are going after ppc revenue.

So that is why many individuals are trying to sell names by contacting end users. To bad the folks who are supposed to do that are not. Don't feel to bad because they are also shooting themselves in the foot by not doing so.

Recently a very large low price "move em out" deal was offered from a prominant domain business and quite a few names were picked up. Who bought them? Mostly other domainers for a song. To bad again no end users were able to see those names, thus the low prices fetched for them.

Billions of dollars worth of domain names that can be sold to end users are buried to never be seen. These sales are lost revenue to the auction houses bottom line.

Think to how fun it would be if names were selling at a fast clip. That is the kind of business I was hoping to find in domain selling.

Lets also talk less about the few big names that sell and how we have such a profitable business. Its not very profitable to most domainers.

How many names can be loaded up before we see the slim chance we have of actually selling a name to someone other than another domainer?

So when more people find out about our names for sale we will greatly benefit, especially if those people are "end users" of domain names.

Roderick
 
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Seems like this will create a HUGE industry in the FUTURE
 
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Nice article we can understand, where domain market target is
 
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msobotka said:
What was the most expensive price paid for a domain...anyone know?


I think it was for sex.com ;)
 
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Roderick,

I'm suprised no one had a reaction to your well written and accurate post. Perhaps ignorance truly is bliss in this pseudo-industry.

There is no liquidity to domain names, particularly with the pricing "comissions" at major auction areas. Adding on membership fees, "appraisals", and other superfluos "services" incentivizes domainers to increase the price in order to come off with any sort of margin.

When I have some more time I will continue along this thread.

-almarti2
 
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kiviniar said:
How to max revenue, add value to domain names
1. Purchase a domain name.
2. Build a Web site based on the name, and establish Web links to related sites.
3. Place ads on your Web site.
4. Add content.
5. Sell products on the site, establishing an e-commerce model.
Source: Internet REIT

so,to earn more money, domainer should become webmaster ?
 
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I personally think the market is getting over saturated, I wish they would stop writting these articules and bringing in all these wanna be domainers, I am also sick of people buying up names just to sell them for a few bucks, all of these things are gonna kill this market.

Zilla said:
so,to earn more money, domainer should become webmaster ?
This is what I have done, I got sick of being offered 25 bucks for names worth alot more!
 
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goodkarmaco said:
No, more names will not affect our sales. What we want to make sure is this.. that the folks who have said they are the auction houses and say they will move our names do so.

To do that they will need to get with it and start an aggressive advertising program to draw end users to the auction houses.

I think more people should find out about domain names. But defining who those "more people" are is the magic bullet for us domain sellers. We want more people to look to the auction houses to solve a need they have. That need is to deliver the perfect name to them.

In my opinion a lot of the large sales and even alot of the average or lower price sales are from other domainers!

Excellent post and I agree. They make it sound so easy. The auction/selling markets need to get their act together. Thank goodness there are more and more of them to give some competition. But the majority are only selling a small amount of names every day...when they hold MILLIONS of domain names for sale. Think about that when you go and register your Grandpas-pipe.com or megoweewee.com...the registrars are making millions...while any premium names are buried in shite.
 
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I leared quite abit from this post. Thank you for taking the time to post.
 
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the title should change to Premium Domain names becoming prime Web real estate
 
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wearenotabot said:
I personally think the market is getting over saturated, I wish they would stop writting these articules and bringing in all these wanna be domainers, I am also sick of people buying up names just to sell them for a few bucks, all of these things are gonna kill this market.
I don't think the market is saturated, at least not for the premium names. I agree with you, there are too many junk names around but it's not hard distinguishing the junk from the prime domains.
IMO the value of good domain names will continue to rise, and demand for good names will be growing. As a result prices will continue to go up.
The junk of today will remain junk tomorrow I guess :hehe:
I don't think it is a threat to the industry in general.
 
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