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They registered a centralized domain and listed it.....again. 💳

At one point or another, every domainer has listed a domain name via a marketplace—or five. Whether it was based on the marketplace's “competitive” commission rates, promised visibility, or simply their brand name, the domain’s nameservers were updated, TXT records added, and custody verified—simply to enter the marketplace’s “ecosystem.”

What's next? Well,....... 🗓️

The platform gets checked periodically, and the email inbox combed for notices that an offer or sale has come through. If a domainer’s on social media, the barrage of sales screenshots—some of which are doctored—might cause them to check a bit more than some might care to openly admit. Then comes the moment they question whether the name(s) listed have value or whether the marketplace tides aren’t really what the cabal claim they are.

Questioning marketplace legitimacy? :unsure:

After all, domaining isn’t as pure of a game as some like to suggest. There have been buzzings that some domainers buy from themselves, sell to one another, and even partner with marketplaces in order to keep the domain marketplace narrative healthy. This could be entirely speculative—but could easily be a separate discussion.

The domain view-counters don't lie, right? 🤏

Nevertheless, it’s fair to say the ratio of domains registered/listed to domains sold isn’t in sync. So much so that certain people are starting to question whether domain marketplaces are simply websites that add no real value to the domain selling experience. After all, any domainer can deploy a website, add some buy buttons, and say this is where my domains are sold. The only third-party task would be the transfer of the name to the end user post-sale. Albeit, this is the most important part of the transaction—ensuring the buyer gets the name. This suggests that registrars have the best hand when it comes to hosting marketplaces—especially if the name being sold is registered through them. But what does this mean for the marketplaces that don’t hold names and make part of their money from upselling a domainer on the “safe and secure transfer” package?

So, the marketplace services don't really help? 🎰

It’s a valid question at a time when the centralized domain space is plagued by a lack of innovation. AI has quickly given domainers a way to simply skip the line, bypass marketplace smothering, and sidestep subscription fees that don’t equate to a sale or extra visibility. Centralized domaining is a numbers game more than anything else. If a platform has hundreds of thousands of listings, many of which are paid, the chances of a sale become equally as slim as hitting the jackpot at a casino. Of course, many of the marketplaces know this but continue on—because that’s just what you do, right?

Or is there more? ⚖️

Are marketplaces a key part of the domaining experience? Do they serve a real purpose that gives domaining integrity and domainers justified hope they aren’t spending money to register names they’ll never own in vain? These are the tough questions. Rather than answer, many veteran domainers and marketplaces would likely resort to critiques of name quality, pricing, and patience—the good old justifications for the domain space being portrayed as a fair deal for all. Any objective person knows that it’s not. How could it be? There’s no loyalty, so to speak, and it’s evident with marketplaces. Most have the same names listed and nearly the same sales infrastructure. They all have to talk to a registrar when a name does sell, and commissions seem to function more like passive income rather than the result of offering something truly proprietary.

As for whether domain marketplaces are irrelevant, scams, or simply misunderstood—it probably comes down to who the domainer is and how far they’re willing to go for “paid or unpaid access to the thought of securing a sale.💭

Share your constructive thoughts below. 🧠
 
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Ah perfect, a fresh conspiracy thread has just popped up on NamePros.
 
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Ah perfect, a fresh conspiracy thread has just popped up on NamePros.
@futuresensors Conspiracy thread? Is that what opening the floor for discussion has been reduced to? Respectfully, your comment suggests you've made an assumption based on the thread's title or missed the point of the thread entirely. In short, it's about the value marketplaces do/don't add to the domaining experience. No conspiracy there.
 
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Yes, your posting contains several elements that lean toward a conspiratorial mindset, framing domain marketplaces not as a neutral business service with predictable challenges, but as a system manipulated by insiders to benefit themselves at the expense of average users.

This is evident in the use of loaded language, such as "the cabal claim they are", the suggestion that sales screenshots are "doctored", and the assertion that a collective of insiders "buy from themselves, sell to one another, and even partner with marketplaces" to maintain a false narrative.

Your posting repeatedly uses rhetorical questions to insinuate wrongdoing without providing evidence, such as questioning whether marketplaces "know this but continue on" and suggesting that veteran domainers and marketplaces "resort to critiques" to justify a system they know is unfair.

This all culminates in the portrayal of domain selling as a rigged game lacking loyalty and integrity, where the average person is exploited for "passive income" and "paid or unpaid access to the thought of securing a sale."

Furthermore, you mention "centralized domaining", implying that decentralized solutions would be better, which is not the case.

Anyway, good luck with a neutral discussion :)
 
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They registered a centralized domain and listed it.....again. 💳

At one point or another, every domainer has listed a domain name via a marketplace—or five. Whether it was based on the marketplace's “competitive” commission rates, promised visibility, or simply their brand name, the domain’s nameservers were updated, TXT records added, and custody verified—simply to enter the marketplace’s “ecosystem.”
Sure, that's generally how most domain investors/resellers strategize the reselling of a domain name (Adding it to a domain related marketplace or multiple to get eyeballs on their assets).
What's next? Well,....... 🗓️

The platform gets checked periodically, and the email inbox combed for notices that an offer or sale has come through. If a domainer’s on social media, the barrage of sales screenshots—some of which are doctored—might cause them to check a bit more than some might care to openly admit. Then comes the moment they question whether the name(s) listed have value or whether the marketplace tides aren’t really what the cabal claim they are.
Hmm... questioning the value of an asset is normal, regardless if it's listed on a marketplace platform.
Questioning marketplace legitimacy? :unsure:

After all, domaining isn’t as pure of a game as some like to suggest. There have been buzzings that some domainers buy from themselves, sell to one another, and even partner with marketplaces in order to keep the domain marketplace narrative healthy. This could be entirely speculative—but could easily be a separate discussion.
I think that attempted fraud and deception happen in just about every business or investment model where there is potential financial gain. One really needs to do their due diligence, regardless what type of business or investing they are into.
The domain view-counters don't lie, right? 🤏

Nevertheless, it’s fair to say the ratio of domains registered/listed to domains sold isn’t in sync. So much so that certain people are starting to question whether domain marketplaces are simply websites that add no real value to the domain selling experience. After all, any domainer can deploy a website, add some buy buttons, and say this is where my domains are sold. The only third-party task would be the transfer of the name to the end user post-sale. Albeit, this is the most important part of the transaction—ensuring the buyer gets the name. This suggests that registrars have the best hand when it comes to hosting marketplaces—especially if the name being sold is registered through them. But what does this mean for the marketplaces that don’t hold names and make part of their money from upselling a domainer on the “safe and secure transfer” package?
Umm, again, manipulation and falsified information isn't isolated to the domain industry. It's unfortunate when someone creates a personal portfolio with purchase links, calls it a marketplace and embellishes (Falsifies) sales counts, visitor stats, ranking data, etc.. just to try and make a sale.

In a perfect world, there would be no false advertising in any industry.
So, the marketplace services don't really help? 🎰

It’s a valid question at a time when the centralized domain space is plagued by a lack of innovation. AI has quickly given domainers a way to simply skip the line, bypass marketplace smothering, and sidestep subscription fees that don’t equate to a sale or extra visibility. Centralized domaining is a numbers game more than anything else. If a platform has hundreds of thousands of listings, many of which are paid, the chances of a sale become equally as slim as hitting the jackpot at a casino. Of course, many of the marketplaces know this but continue on—because that’s just what you do, right?
Or is there more? ⚖️

Are marketplaces a key part of the domaining experience? Do they serve a real purpose that gives domaining integrity and domainers justified hope they aren’t spending money to register names they’ll never own in vain? These are the tough questions. Rather than answer, many veteran domainers and marketplaces would likely resort to critiques of name quality, pricing, and patience—the good old justifications for the domain space being portrayed as a fair deal for all. Any objective person knows that it’s not. How could it be? There’s no loyalty, so to speak, and it’s evident with marketplaces. Most have the same names listed and nearly the same sales infrastructure. They all have to talk to a registrar when a name does sell, and commissions seem to function more like passive income rather than the result of offering something truly proprietary.

As for whether domain marketplaces are irrelevant, scams, or simply misunderstood—it probably comes down to who the domainer is and how far they’re willing to go for “paid or unpaid access to the thought of securing a sale.💭
At the end of the day, where one lists their domain is not as important as who's eyeballs are seeing it, that could be a potential buyer looking to build a brand on that very asset.

Not all marketplaces are created equal and have different benefits, caveats, and primary niches that do better than others on their platforms. You might find this marketplace analysis useful: https://www.namepros.com/threads/11...ir-advantages-disadvantages-and-more.1354416/

Everyone does it differently.

You could just as easily use NamePros landing pages for all your domain names and market each one yourself via outbound campaigns or using SEO/SEM, since NP Landing pages are customizable, unlike most (Not all) other places. You can even monetize a NamePros lander to try and generate income while you await the perfect buyer.

What works for one may not work for another and vice versa.

Remember, a domain name is truly only worth what a buyer and seller agree on.
 
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Great, another failed domain investor trying to blame everything and everyone but himself.
 
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Great, another failed domain investor trying to blame everything and everyone but himself.
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Yes, your posting contains several elements that lean toward a conspiratorial mindset, framing domain marketplaces not as a neutral business service with predictable challenges, but as a system manipulated by insiders to benefit themselves at the expense of average users.

This is evident in the use of loaded language, such as "the cabal claim they are", the suggestion that sales screenshots are "doctored", and the assertion that a collective of insiders "buy from themselves, sell to one another, and even partner with marketplaces" to maintain a false narrative.

Your posting repeatedly uses rhetorical questions to insinuate wrongdoing without providing evidence, such as questioning whether marketplaces "know this but continue on" and suggesting that veteran domainers and marketplaces "resort to critiques" to justify a system they know is unfair.

This all culminates in the portrayal of domain selling as a rigged game lacking loyalty and integrity, where the average person is exploited for "passive income" and "paid or unpaid access to the thought of securing a sale."

Furthermore, you mention "centralized domaining", implying that decentralized solutions would be better, which is not the case.

Anyway, good luck with a neutral discussion :)
This could be entirely speculative—but could easily be a separate discussion.
You clearly omitted this part......
Rather than answer, many veteran domainers and marketplaces would likely resort to critiques of
And the part that pointed out many, not all, veteran domainers and marketplaces you chose to omit.
if a platform has hundreds of thousands of listings, many of which are paid, the chances of a sale become equally as slim as hitting the jackpot at a casino.
And you didn't acknowledge the probability aspect of the "math/numbers" presented here.
There have been buzzings that some domainers buy.....
And you chose to overlook that folks talk - maybe not in the same circles, but they do talk.

The piece didn't mention any marketplace or domainer in particular because it's not that type of discussion. Again, it's about whether domain marketplaces add value to the domaining experience. Despite your expressed grievance with how the discussion was initiated, you opted not to accept the invite to explain whether you feel they add value or not. You led with a critique of the content and not a viewpoint contribution to the dialogue. So, to you and others.....
Share your constructive thoughts below. 🧠
Extra emphasis on constructive........respectfully.
 
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Great, another failed domain investor trying to blame everything and everyone but himself.
There's a great deal of irony in the fact you didn't choose to outline ways you believe domain marketplaces do/don't add to the domaining experience. That's what this discussion is about. Calling a domainer with sales a "failure" seems a bit off-key. Nevertheless, it seems you might be blinded by a level of bias not necessarily relevant to this particular thread. To you, and others, the invite is.....
Share your constructive thoughts below. 🧠
Extra emphasis on constructive......respectfully.
 
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Let's unpack just one misconception in your argument. You point out that "the ratio of registered/listed domains to sold domains isn't in sync", and from that you conclude that marketplaces add no real value. But this gap isn't a failure of the platforms, it's a reflection of domain quality. The vast majority of domains never sell, simply because they lack intrinsic worth, not because the marketplace is underperforming. Blaming the platform(s) for an oversupply of low-quality inventory misdiagnoses the problem. What makes you attribute unsold domains to marketplace deficiencies rather than to the domains themselves?
 
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Come on @ericlyon! Would've thought you of all vets in this forum would've got the message and led with what value you do/don't believe domain marketplaces add to the domaining experience. Instead, you come with a cute, but slightly insulting, infographic. After all, there are sales on this side. Granted, not MEGA sales; but sales nonetheless. It seems some folks' coffee didn't brew the best this morning. :xf.laugh: Gentleman (and ladies), let's stay on key here. Let's talk the value domain marketplaces do/don't offer.
 
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Come on @ericlyon! Would've thought you of all vets in this forum would've got the message and led with what value you do/don't believe domain marketplaces add to the domaining experience. Instead, you come with a cute, but slightly insulting, infographic. After all, there are sales on this side. Granted, not MEGA sales; but sales nonetheless. It seems some folks' coffee didn't brew the best this morning. :xf.laugh: Gentleman (and ladies), let's stay on key here. Let's talk the value domain marketplaces do/don't offer.
That message was a reply to another members post (Which I quoted in my reply).

I replied to and quoted your post here (You may have missed it): https://www.namepros.com/threads/do...-or-simply-misunderstood.1359415/post-9434152
 
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Hi

this thread s/b in marketplace section
and the fact that each of them have threads directly related to the service they provide is evidence of their relevance to domainers

any reader can enter keywords in search function to find posts that mention scams on a marketplace, if any, that were posted by users.

so basically, the answers to the questions are already there if they are relevant to you.

imo….
 
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Let's unpack just one misconception in your argument. You point out that "the ratio of registered/listed domains to sold domains isn’t in sync", and from that you conclude that marketplaces add no real value. But this gap isn't a failure of the platforms, it's a reflection of domain quality. The vast majority of domains never sell, simply because they lack intrinsic worth, not because the marketplace is underperforming. Blaming the platform(s) for an oversupply of low-quality inventory misdiagnoses the problem. What makes you attribute unsold domains to marketplace deficiencies rather than to the domains themselves?
Ok @futuresensors! This is a bit more on-key. Thanks for giving it another try. :xf.wink: As for your statements, there was NEVER any sentence that said marketplaces add no real value. The floating question was whether the cited variables, dynamics and/or speculation suggest marketplaces do/don't add value to the domaining experience. No marketplaces were blamed in the composing of this post. The elephants in certain parts of the room were merely nodded at.

You also referenced a "gap". This is the gap this thread post is aiming to measure. The fact you believe "most" domains never sell because they "lack intrinsic value" implies centralized domains lack "inherent value". Please resist the urge to highlight the use of "centralized" here. The "gap" that's linked to "most domains" not selling only suggest marketplaces are one thing to evaluate. Remember, the thread stated that veteran domainers might chalk it up to domain quality etc. You said exactly what the post alluded to and still didn't point out.....

What value YOU believe marketplaces do/don't add to the domaining experience. Would love to hear/read them.
 
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The fact you believe "most" domains never sell because they "lack intrinsic value" implies centralized domains lack "inherent value".
No, it's not what I wrote.
 
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Hi

this thread s/b in marketplace section
and the fact that each of them have threads directly related to the service they provide is evidence of their relevance to domainers

any reader can enter keywords in search function to find posts that mention scams on a marketplace, if any, that were posted by users.

so basically, the answers to the questions are already there if they are relevant to you.

imo….
Thank you @biggie for offering one of the more on-key replies to this thread. With regard to your point about threads started by marketplaces here in the forum, I wouldn't exactly say that's indicative of their benefit to the domaining experience per se. It's fair to say the threads are indicative of their willingness to market, promote and engage with existing/prospective customers. It doesn't exactly point to any recurring value they bring to the domain experience respectively.

Some folks are suggesting many marketplaces are simply listing and checkout hubs that upsell on visibility and auctions - much of which doesn't equate to sells. The entire centralized domain space has an innovation issue regardless of who does/doesn't sell what. It looks, feels and functions like the 90's. AI is forcing a little momentum; but there can likely be more done. Otherwise, things like forum threads become THE standard by which the space's benefits are measured. We can likely agree there needs to be a higher bar set.
 
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Great, another failed domain investor trying to blame everything and everyone but himself.
Most domain investors have bad domains. That is what it all boils down to.

Good domains tend to get interest and sell over time. Bad domains rarely do.

It's not the fault of the marketplace. No amount of promotion really matters if the domains are not sellable.

Brad
 
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Calm down
 
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