Domain grabbers?

[John Baron]

hey , maybe someone could help with this one

i saw there is some domain grab software , like enon/moniker grabber and some more, are they any good? could you really snap a domain with thos software or is just a trick ?

thanks for all the helpers

 

[nanochip]

Really? There is? I'd like to know too please!

 

[Blake]

I believe what you are talking about is backordering domains and yes it's possible and there are 4 main companies that offer this service: Snapnames, Pool, Namejet, and Godaddy ........now they do charge for this service so check out pricing before doing your backordering etc.

Hope this is what your talking about as I'm unsure just wanting to help out etc.

 

[nielsencl]

Yes, there are a few companies that sell software that runs and tries to register domains for you. I don't know how good they are but if you are going to try and get many domains like this it could be better than using the backorder services which charge you more per domain.

But you need to know that there are many people using systems like this for the better domains and your chances of getting a really great domain are not good. I would try to find some reviews of this kind of software or see if you can get demo copy to try out.

 

[Expron]

I developed drop catching software for enom & dynadot. The software integrates with their API commands to grab domains for you.

the programs work nicely, but there's no chance you'll get anything that has a backorder at pool, snapnames or enom. These companies prioritize the strength they go after with on domains. Example, if domain LLL.com gets 30 backorders, they will use everything in their power to grab the domain. Vs if domain: LongTailDomain.com has only 1 backorder, it is easy for you to beat them since they won't go after the domain heavily.

The software I've developed works with .com/net but also other extensions & ccTld's. If you'd like to give it a try, here's more info:

http://tastedrop.com/drop_catcher/

http://tastedrop.com/domain-tools/

 

[John Baron]

is there any diffrent from this one to the moniker grabber? and if yes, what is it
if i do catch a domain, what do i pay? reguler reg fee?

 

[Expron]

is there any diffrent from this one to the moniker grabber? and if yes, what is it
if i do catch a domain, what do i pay? reguler reg fee?

Yes, this is a different program from DNWare's Moniker Grabber - which I've heard is pretty much useless & very slow for catching anything.

If you catch a domain, you pay whatever Moniker charges you. I believe you can negotiate your pricing with your Moniker rep. The domain will appear directly into your own Moniker account with each successful domain you catch.

 

[MT Domains]

From what I was told by a Moniker rep, they forbid 'drop catching' with their API, so I've never tried it with them

I've been using Dynadot to try to catch dropping domains. I haven't tried Enom out yet... How is Enom's API? Do they restrict the number of tries per minute to register a domain?

 

[Tribulatio]

The software I've developed works with .com/net but also other extensions & ccTld's. If you'd like to give it a try, here's more info:

http://tastedrop.com/drop_catcher/

http://tastedrop.com/domain-tools/

May I ask if it works well with extensions such as .ws? I have a problem assessing the dropping time for .ws domain names, and I missed a few I had an eye upon - I assume that people who got them before me were using a tool such as yours.
Additional question: I am on Mac. Do you know if your Drop Catcher works fine with Windows running on Parallels?

 

[HuntingMoon]

since the icann rules change, we have had just as much success with our own hand registration grabs each morning as with any dropcatching service. the only time we use them now is if they have the exclusive on a domain.

 

[John Baron]

Hunting moon,
what do you mean icann rules change? what had change?
also , how can a company have exclusive on a domain?
and when you say that u hand reg, u mean using domain grabber software?

thanks !

 

[HuntingMoon]

ICANN instituted a fee per returned domain on April 1. Networks of registrars used to grab every name they could and then test the names to see which had traffic. They would release the rest- a cycle of catch and release (data pollution/noise). Now that it would be expensive to test names, this conduct has slowed down significantly.

Many registrars have struck deals with aftermarket sites, assigning their expiring names exclusively to one aftermarket site. For example, NameJet feature Netsol drops, so the only place to capture a Netsol drop is at NameJet.

We log in to our registrar of choice and register expiring names on the day they drop. We only use scripts and services for top names and exclusive names now. We caught 8 of the last 10 drops we targeted this way. Prior to April 1, our capture percentage was much lower, due to the competition from networks of registrars.

 

[Expron]

From what I was told by a Moniker rep, they forbid 'drop catching' with their API, so I've never tried it with them

I've been using Dynadot to try to catch dropping domains. I haven't tried Enom out yet... How is Enom's API? Do they restrict the number of tries per minute to register a domain?

Hmm, MT Domains - Your sales rep must be Don Lyons @ Moniker. He will selectively tell one customer, No, You cannot drop catch with moniker's API - while telling another to go ahead & limit it to 1 attempt per second. The truth is it can be used for Drop Catching, but you can't go crazy with it.. Example (2,000 requests a sec).

Enom's API is a lot faster than Dynadot, but I'm not convinced it's more effective. 7/10 times Dynadot beats out ENOM. I have cheated & used like 5 drop catchers with the same ENOM account for speed, which then beats Dynadot easily - but ENOM's API Dept will complain & email me with a warning to stop abusing their API.

So It is faster, but I believe the limit is 1 try per account per second (for enom). Dynadot has implemented a crazy 5-7 second delay on their server side which is just silly compared to the original 0.3 second pause.

May I ask if it works well with extensions such as .ws? I have a problem assessing the dropping time for .ws domain names, and I missed a few I had an eye upon - I assume that people who got them before me were using a tool such as yours.

Additional question: I am on Mac. Do you know if your Drop Catcher works fine with Windows running on Parallels?

Tribulatio - The Dynadot API tool does work with .WS extensions. Also, .asia, biz etc. Any extensions Dynadot or ENOM offer.

I haven't determined the drop time for WS yet either & just played with the drop lists & creating my own (haven't found public .ws drop lists yet). The nice thing about these programs is that you can run them for minutes, hours or days etc.. Great for domains that will drop, but you're not sure exactly when.

I'm not all that familiar with parallels, but I am willing to say it should work. The code the drop catchers use is not bulky, there is no installer & it relies on system commands to work, so it should work fine with Parallels & MS virtualization.

since the icann rules change, we have had just as much success with our own hand registration grabs each morning as with any dropcatching service. the only time we use them now is if they have the exclusive on a domain.

That's fine & dandy for now.. but as more & more people realize what the ICANN change has done, they will start to hand reg domains & use programs like the above.

Who's to say next time, you don't get beat out by a program that works smarter vs harder compared to trying to hand register domains on the drop?

Plus, wouldn't you rather just hit "Start" on a program & walk away - live your normal life knowing it's working for you?.. Rather than frantically hitting refresh & checkout on various web browsers at once?

 

[Tribulatio]

Thank you very much for your detailed and precise reply, Expron! I will definitely consider thise tool.

 

[MT Domains]

Thanks for the info Expron I'll have to give Moniker's API a try soon, and will try to keep it at around 1 a second. Sounds like I'll need to look into getting access to Enom's API soon also.