Domain Broker? Commission only cold caller?

[TampaDomains]

I used the search and some stuff about domain brokers, many varying opinions.

Is there any brokers that would sell $300-$500 domains for 20% or whatever?

If this is not available then what is any ones opinion on hiring a commission only cold caller as independent contractor?

Local or maybe even outsource it to upwork or some other type company?

I am having decent success selling some domains but I don't cold call and don't like to. So after I use my methods and have a some domains accumulating, there must be a way to get someone on the phones and pay them.

I mostly have geo/business or business/geo type domains that easily sell for $350 or so.

 

[Recons.Com]

I see your concern. What would you suggest to make it fair?

See my post written earlier ) about X, 2X etc. )

Advantage for you: people will be willing to start from lower prices, knowing they have possible upside.

 

[obocar]

I'm open to more suggestions.

Completely true. However, you could find some $$$ domains in the Latonas/Clement newsletters.
Meaning that the domains would be listed passively and no proactive action would take place. But at least you get qualified eyeballs.

Brokers usually aren't shy about the domains they are brokering, especially if they are good...
If you want to contribute to this thread with the authority of a broker you should be able to back up your claims.

I see where Biggie is coming from.
In my opinion, an experienced broker already knows what Shane just explained. He will put no effort toward mid-$$$ domains.
PS: I am a broker too. And I am my own best client.

Thanks for jumping in. I'm not trying to be secretive. I'm pretty new, which is why I am here to learn more and figure ways to help domain owners. I don't claim myself to experienced. If you read my website, it says it well. click on the signature.

I started dabble with domain trading in 2009, and made little money, but I like it and consider want to do brokering. I went to Namescon in January and met a guy named Ryan Colby who promised to train and coach me in domain brokering. I just finished one on one training with Ryan Colby a little more than a month ago. Now, I'm still working on my site, as you see on my signature link. What Ryan recommends me is that I focus on premium domain, which position me as a premium domain broker because it's worth the time. So, at first I thought to just do premium names, $50,000 or higher, as he recommended.

In mean time, I'm just networking and getting to know people. I did do a collaboration by a broker, which he asked me to be confidential about it in helping him find a buyer. It was a 2 character domain. The domain didn't sell, but my experience is that it does take time and work to get the domains sold. I learned that many domains that got brokered don't sell. I'm I right? I'm here to learn from anyone here who's willing to share. Or if brokering a domain is easy, share. If a domain represents a product or a service, then yes, maybe. But that's what separates a great broker from the rest. And that's the skill i'm trying to learn.
Biggie, didn't I see you on Domain Sherpa interview? Not sure exactly. If so, you're the expert. I got to go back to Domain Sherpa again.

So, because I'm new to brokering, I'm looking for opportunities of market that's untapped. There is one domain I'm brokering now, real estate domain. The thing is I swayed away from the premium model, percentage fee model, and follow the second model, which I guarantee the owner a net amount if the domain sells. So, that is the reason why I'm asking everyone to see how the model works.

I know you're going to ask me again "What's the domain?" Too bad none of you here is an end user. I'll tell you later when it sells. On the other hand if you're my collaborator, then I'll share everything. But this isn't a premium domain in many people's eyes.

 

[Kate]

Thanks but just one thing...

Too bad none of you here is an end user.

This is incorrect You are making assumptions here.
I am an end user too, but I also buy and sell in domainer capacity. I'm not the only one here.

 

[obocar]

I am an end user too, but I also buy and sell in domainer capacity. I'm not the only one here.[/QUOTE]

The only difference between you and the other end users is that you wouldn't pay premium price. You are just smart to smart to do that, just like any other domainers. You'll ask for type in traffic, parked revenue, search volume, comp and all that. You as an end user will make me lose money.

You are cheap!

 

[Recons.Com]

The only difference between you and the other end users is that you wouldn't pay premium price. You are just smart to smart to do that, just like any other domainers. You'll ask for type in traffic, parked revenue, search volume, comp and all that. You as an end user will make me lose money.

You are cheap!

You say you are here to network and make connections/friends, but then you turn around and call a person who did not ignore your thread/business proposition "cheap".

Again, as Kate and Shane, mentioned, many here will pay top dollar for the name they see as best for their project. I have paid $xx,xxx for quite a few names.

So, first thing first: change your attitude and try not to assume.

 

[Nattydomain]

@obocar First you may want to either remove your blog or at least the first Wordpress post as it looks unprofessional.

Also it is ok to be new as a broker but think of it as a broker with stocks. Why would I want to trust you with my life savings when you never sold a stock before? Now if you said I have sold all my own domains by reaching out and selling them then that is your track record. But you have nothing that you can point to to say YES I sold that, that anddddd that.

I think if you take baby steps you can get there but you have to be able to SELL before you can make claims that you can sell OUR domains. Better yet you may want to take some of our "lower quality" domains as a test and just see how good your negation style is. Then if it is good and you were able to sell peoples domains then that makes it a bigger door for you to walk through and await new clients.

Just my 2 cents.

 

[biggie]

I'm not trying to be secretive. I'm pretty new, which is why I am here to learn more and figure ways to help domain owners. I don't claim myself to experienced. If you read my website, it says it well. click on the signature.

I started dabble with domain trading in 2009, and made little money, but I like it and consider want to do brokering. I went to Namescon in January and met a guy named Ryan Colby who promised to train and coach me in domain brokering. I just finished one on one training with Ryan Colby a little more than a month ago. Now, I'm still working on my site, as you see on my signature link. What Ryan recommends me is that I focus on premium domain, which position me as a premium domain broker because it's worth the time. So, at first I thought to just do premium names, $50,000 or higher, as he recommended.

In mean time, I'm just networking and getting to know people. I did do a collaboration by a broker, which he asked me to be confidential about it in helping him find a buyer. It was a 2 character domain. The domain didn't sell, but my experience is that it does take time and work to get the domains sold. I learned that many domains that got brokered don't sell. I'm I right? I'm here to learn from anyone here who's willing to share. Or if brokering a domain is easy, share. If a domain represents a product or a service, then yes, maybe. But that's what separates a great broker from the rest. And that's the skill i'm trying to learn.
Biggie, didn't I see you on Domain Sherpa interview? Not sure exactly. If so, you're the expert. I got to go back to Domain Sherpa again.

So, because I'm new to brokering, I'm looking for opportunities of market that's untapped. There is one domain I'm brokering now, real estate domain. The thing is I swayed away from the premium model, percentage fee model, and follow the second model, which I guarantee the owner a net amount if the domain sells. So, that is the reason why I'm asking everyone to see how the model works.

I know you're going to ask me again "What's the domain?" Too bad none of you here is an end user. I'll tell you later when it sells. On the other hand if you're my collaborator, then I'll share everything. But this isn't a premium domain in many people's eyes.

Hi

Thanks for deciding to be "upfront". This is what people expect, when you make solicitations or submit proposals.

imo...

 

[Recons.Com]

@obocar

1. DomainBrand is a great name to start the business with
2. Still hire someone for around $100-$200 to go over and edit text on your website, as it does require lots of improvements and corrections.

 

[obocar]

Hi

Thanks for deciding to be "upfront". This is what people expect, when you make solicitations or submit proposals.

imo...

Biggie, i'm not that new in domaining.
Remember when the sopa controversy came out?
I was the one that put up sopa.com out to try to stop the law from being passed. Two fellow dnf member helped to get the site up. So, i think i did try to do good for the domain community. Now the domain is in the good hand of Andrew Rosener. I made a killing profit when I sold it to him. I think he regretted it.

Are you going to be at Namescon next year? If you are, maybe we can meet, grab lunch, chat. Maybe we can get to know each other.

 

[wormfood]

The music and intro / outros really don't fit
just my opinion
edit: I should say I don't think either fit with the video well..not that they don't fit together, though that may be true..

 

[rvo]

I'd like to know this too. With a full time job and a full time GF (as in: living together) one only have a few hours a day to dedicate it to domains.

I would happily pay someone that gathers me a list of potential end users for my domains, with their current data (email addresses, telephone numbers, etc)

 

[TampaDomains]

I could gather that data for you if you paid me. That is what I am doing for myself anyway.
Some don't list email but have contact forms on website. but all have phone numbers.

PM me a few examples and how many end user contacts for how much you are thinking.

 

[TampaDomains]

I just don't like making cold calls. If they contact me then that is fine because they are already interested.

 

[TampaDomains]

If the guaranteed net was good enough then maybe.

 

[Joshdns]

I'd like to know this too. With a full time job and a full time GF (as in: living together) one only have a few hours a day to dedicate it to domains.

I would happily pay someone that gathers me a list of potential end users for my domains, with their current data (email addresses, telephone numbers, etc)

Sounds like an idea, only part time GF and work here, lol......
Perhaps i can offer the services to those with full time GF's and work like you?

 

[Recons.Com]

I'd like to know this too. With a full time job and a full time GF (as in: living together) one only have a few hours a day to dedicate it to domains.

I would happily pay someone that gathers me a list of potential end users for my domains, with their current data (email addresses, telephone numbers, etc)

I could gather that data for you if you paid me. That is what I am doing for myself anyway.
Some don't list email but have contact forms on website. but all have phone numbers.

PM me a few examples and how many end user contacts for how much you are thinking.

Sounds like you guys might have a synergy )

One does not like collecting data, but does not mind calling, while the other doesn't mind collecting, but does not like calling )

Why don't you barter your services to each other?

 

[Asfas1000]

I'm thinking of a way to help domainers like you sell.

I will make a site to explain that business model. It's called DomainersNet.com

How it works is you send me the domain you want to sell and the price you want for the domain. If i think i can sell more than your wanted price, I will take on the name. Once the name gets sold, i'll pay you your wanted price and I'll keep what is left.

Domainers Net- if it sells, you get a flat net amount.

You don't even worry about the escrow fee or take more of your time from your girl friend just settle on the sales price. I will take care of all that.

How many you here are really interested.
If there is enough demand, then I'll start on the project.

I think this is an excellent idea. I would use that service.

One question, let's say you agree to pay 1000 and end user agrees to buy for 2000, how do you proceed ? Escrow with broker, or other method ?

 

[obocar]

This was one of concerns as well, and the reason I asked about how the sale would proceed, Escrow or otherwise.

If the sale price is much more than the seller's pay, some sellers would back off.

Thanks for the response. There will be a contract for the seller to sign. I know some people back out of contracts because of greed. Even the broker works his butt off to sell the domains. Then, next time I won't accept his domains any more.

What if I will put on the contract clause for the seller to agree?

"I, __________, as a seller agree to have Obocar sell my domain because I agree to receive $_____ fixed price for my domain. I will not ask any more or less no matter how much the domain sells for. If there is chance that I may back out, then I will not sign this contract.

Seller's Signature:________________________________"

How about that? Would that solve the problem?

 

[infosec3]

No. Since we are doing a three-party transaction, you will always know how much the end-user is paying. The three parties, you, end-user on my company are involved. We are not buying the name from you.

Now, we may consider buying names submitted in the future, but it is not something we are doing right now.

 

[Asfas1000]

No. Since we are doing a three-party transaction, you will always know how much the end-user is paying. The three parties, you, end-user on my company are involved. We are not buying the name from you.

Now, we may consider buying names submitted in the future, but it is not something we are doing right now.

My post was directed to the OP, not your post...

 

[infosec3]

My post was directed to the OP, not your post...

Understood. Thanks

 

[obocar]

I already have few people emailing me their domains and asked if I have started this brokering yet. I am consider it strongly for this idea.

As of now, I'm working on brokering premium domain names, which are worth $50,000 or higher and my commission is 15 percent on those types of names.

However, I feel there is a high demand for the lower priced domains. So, I'm strongly considering Domainers Net model, where the seller receive a fixed net amount from the sales of the domain.

So there are two types of domains that I will be selling.

1. the premium ones based on a percentage commission

2. the non-premium domwhere the domain owners receive a net amount

 

[obocar]

professionally speaking.....

anybody who signs that, must be 100 percent desperate and 100 percent idiot.

brokers get a percentage of the sale, after the sale is completed, and that percentage is agreed upon, prior to.

imo...

Biggie, thanks for pointing that out. Lol

I'm open to all your suggestions and comments, whether you're an idiot or not.

 

[obocar]

You did not get my point. It is not about seller backing off. I assume an honorable seller. The point is he/she will get disgruntled and feel unhappy. It would make sense to agree to share the upside.

I see your concern. What would you suggest to make it fair?