Domain appraisal algorithm ideas - Your input requested!

[user-7256]

Hi all,

Many of you know I'm constantly working on DomainTops' appraisal algorithm.

It has been my own project since I started it in early 2004. It started as an array of services targeted at domain owners, but once everything else DIDN'T get used, I only kept the automatic appraisals.

Since then, I've been trying to improve its algorithm. But, I'm nearing the point to where I need more advice from the USERS!

This is YOUR CHANCE to give input on the DomainTops algorithm to make the domains appraised YOUR WAY (assuming I like and approve the idea, of course) - so jump in and tell me your opinions!

-Matt

(PS. I'm experienced in the field of Artificial Intelligence/AI research and understand the limitations/difficulties regarding this project... please don't approach me with criticism of the attempt. I know what I'm doing. Thanks!)

 

[peaches017]

Based by domain length, our analysis system estimates your domain (II.ORG) is worth near...

$387

Number of Characters: 2
Number of Hyphens: 0
Amount Deducted for Length: $3
Amount Deducted for Hyphens: $0

Review & Advice
Your domain is very, very good!

Amount deducted for length? Shouldn't I be getting a boost?

 

[andrejc]

Ok, here are some things that must be taken into consideration:

- TLD
- Domain length
- Domain age
- Number of words
- Letters/Numbers/Hyphens
- Google results for each word and for all words togather
- OVT score for each word and for all words togather
- Development potential
- Average CPC for each word
- Prices of recently sold names with similar characteristics

+ few more..

As I can see, many of theese must be checked by hand, so automatic appraisal algorithm would be impossible to take into consideration all the staff that shoud be taken.. I don't say that you can't make good algorithm, but that there will always be some exception domains that will be appraised totaly wrong.. (like one in previous post)

Good luck with your work

 

[user-7256]

Based by domain length, our analysis system estimates your domain (II.ORG) is worth near...

$387

Number of Characters: 2
Number of Hyphens: 0
Amount Deducted for Length: $3
Amount Deducted for Hyphens: $0

Review & Advice
Your domain is very, very good!

Amount deducted for length? Shouldn't I be getting a boost?

Interesting point... though it seems it didn't deduct enough (in my head, I'm thinking that maybe the length deduction should be proportional to the domain's value otherwise) - but the system works by first giving your domain value - the complete 100% benefit of the doubt.

Then, it looks at each criteria and deducts value from it, instead of adding to it like other systems do. This prevents the appraisal from being far too high. (But runs the risk of being too low, which isn't necessarily as bad....)

Anywho, that's my logic behind it. The longer a domain is - esp. when appraised by length - should deduct more from its value. In the case of your domain, it looks like it needs to be raised initially or not deduct so much.

In your case, then, I should ultimately Increase value of repeating, juxtaposed characters. ... right? This idea could be flawed, of course, so let me know.

Ok, here are some things that must be taken into consideration:

- TLD *
- Domain length *
- Domain age
- Number of words *
- Letters/Numbers/Hyphens *
- Google results for each word and for all words togather *
- OVT score for each word and for all words togather *
- Development potential
- Average CPC for each word
- Prices of recently sold names with similar characteristics

Good list... I've starred the ones that are already considered, or at least in some form or another.

As I can see, many of theese must be checked by hand, so automatic appraisal algorithm would be impossible to take into consideration all the staff that shoud be taken.

Ah, welcome to the world of Artificial Intelligence (which is NOT only chat bots! :D) I can construct some sort of AI system to do research on a domain... it'll take time to get right, but it can be done. All it takes is a little clever programming and some solid, reliable domain info sources.

Please - some more suggestions, opinions, ideas? I'll need more!

 

[jmcc]

Incidence of the domain in other TLDs and weight accordingly on the size of the TLD.

A lookup list of the main generic words and phrases used in TLDs (poker, insurance, creditcards, loans etc). Check domain for occurances of these terms.

Also look at generic lists for various languages and weight for the numbers of countries using those languages.


Regards...jmcc

 

[andrejc]

Ah, welcome to the world of Artificial Intelligence (which is NOT only chat bots! )

Thank you, but I have been in that world for some time already

 

[jmcc]

Thank you, but I have been in that world for some time already

Yeah but in the domain business, nothing quite beats Artificial Intelligence like the Natural Stupidity of a Landrush.

Regards...jmcc

 

[user-7256]

Incidence of the domain in other TLDs and weight accordingly on the size of the TLD.

A lookup list of the main generic words and phrases used in TLDs (poker, insurance, creditcards, loans etc). Check domain for occurances of these terms.

Also look at generic lists for various languages and weight for the numbers of countries using those languages.


Regards...jmcc

Hm... alright... though it could be time-consuming to do domain lookups. Perhaps that could be optional.

As for the "generic" stuff, I might as well make the system linguistic - or at least able to understand what is a popular word and what is just a common phrase (e.g. "about the" is a VERY common phrase but is not worth anything as a domain).


I'll need some more input, if possible. Thanks for your help thus far.

 

[Dan]

You should try to work in prices from 3character.com's price guide along with base prices for LL's.

QJW.COM - $54
RAP.COM - $901
II.ORG - $387
etc.

These are just so obviously wrong and easy to make them closer to actual value. (Maybe not words like rap, but that should come out as at least $3,500.)

 

[user-7256]

You should try to work in prices from 3character.com's price guide along with base prices for LL's.

QJW.COM - $54
RAP.COM - $901
II.ORG - $387
etc.

These are just so obviously wrong and easy to make them closer to actual value. (Maybe not words like rap, but that should come out as at least $3,500.)

I'm not sure of 3character.com's credibility, but I'll consider using approximate values similar to the ranges there. Definitely a good idea for improvement.

More?

 

[peaches017]

I'm not sure of 3character.com's credibility, but I'll consider using approximate values similar to the ranges there. Definitely a good idea for improvement.

What is truly the value of a "liquid" name, LLL/NNN etc? It's hard to judge as it resolves around the market price that people perceive as being fair. One of the only sources, and by far the most trusted, is 3character