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Does the iPhone Keep dotMobi Awake at Night?
Jul 06, 2007 11:00 AM PST | Comments: 0
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By James Pearce

We’ve had a number of questions (and seen plenty of commentary) regarding the recent launch of the iPhone and how it might affect us and the mobile web in general.

I posted some of initial ideas back in January—and, despite the fact that I personally don’t yet own one, I pretty much feel that our original assessment holds up.

In a nutshell: the iPhone changes the way that tastemakers think about their online existence. Interacting with the web, clearly, is no longer a solitary, sedentary and constrained activity.

Now I’ve personally believed this for a while, so arguably it’s no big deal—the long-term evolution of the web to become a largely mobile (and, by the way, subtly different) medium is inevitable.

With the iPhone, however, this vision starts to become reality for a broad population of users. Not because it’s an especially great phone (I believe it is, although not without its flaws). Not because it’s doing anything other handsets elsewhere haven’t done before, or better. And not even because there’s some significance in the way the handset’s usage is packaged with sole carriers. (Phew! Coming to Europe soon...)

No, the iPhone is significant simply because mobile access to the web is now, well, cool. No longer are you branded a technogeek or crackberry addict when you pull out your mobile in public and start Twittering or Google/Readering. No. I’m getting down with the pinchy-fingered mobi generation. Could the mobile web really become as de riguer as white headphones?

Maybe. Probably. And if so, how can that be a bad thing for any of us?

(Certainly not a case of “iWhatever”!)

But what does that mean for the .mobi top-level domain extension? Does it mean the proposition is doomed? Why would I ever go to a .mobi site when my shiny new browser does a really admirable job with most (but oh, not all) web pages?

Well of course not. Only if you might naively think that .mobi is only about catering for the constraints of a particular class of browsers. And only if you think that the user’s mobile context is not something interesting enough to warrant special attention.

(If you do think that, you’ve obviously not yet become a mobile web user! Go get yourself an iPhone!)

“Mobile Content for the Mobile Context” is what a .mobi domain is all about. And whilst the iPhone browser removes many of the constraints of today’s average mobile browser, there’s no Jobsian magic that can suddenly turn the world’s web corpus into something contextually compelling by default for mobile-users-at-large.

You’ve probably heard me give examples of genres of web sites whose constitution would ideally change based on the mobile context. Some are glib perhaps. But think about it. If you’ve ever accessed a traditional (I’ll say sedentary) web site on a mobile device, you’ll know exactly what I mean: you nearly always come away just a little dissatisfied: wishing that the search engine or the sites that you used had somehow, let’s say, cut to the chase.

“I’m mobile, goddamnit! I don’t have time for your sedentary context! When I asked about coffee, I didn’t mean I want to read research papers about the growth of Coffea Canephora plants in Brazil! I meant I need caffeine! Now! So where’s the nearest cafe?!”

For the seasoned mobile web user, that’s the sort of frustration that will immediately sound grimly familiar. Surfing about on regular web pages with my phone is a neat trick, but rarely meets my expectations in terms of a high-demand user. (At least not without a fair degree of persistence and patience on my part, which I always feel is merely my professional obligation to have to tolerate!)

Yes, I can’t wait to rotate my iPhone about, and wipe my sweaty fingers around on the screen to zoom, pan and scroll. But that’s playing. Pretty soon, the novelty is going to wear off. And I’m going to be left looking for sites and services that are so exciting that I’m compelled to use my expensive new toy to access them, rather than waiting a few hours until I am sedentary again ;)

So the main reason that I’m excited about the iPhone is that these frustrations and challenges are going to be exposed to a far larger, trend-driven propulation. And with the size, motivation and influence of the Apple cult (both on the user and developer sides of the equation), the iPhone’s greatest legacy may well be the catalysm of the world’s site owners and developers doing something about it.

With the mobile web’s historical challenges of cost, speed, browser (and fashion!) removed from the equation, I hope we’ll now see an explosion of interesting, innovative, mobile-centric services burgeoning. The “iPhone mobile web aftermarket” you might even call it.

Will this be a movement that understands the value of the .mobi domain? A way of letting site owners state their mobile credentials? A way of letting the user indicate their mobile context by default? A way of large brands providing competive and differentiating services?

Well, of course we hope so. Certainly nothing about the iPhone breaks that logic.

Ultimately, the TLD’s context-centric proposition is as strong as ever - and with spectacular phones like the iPhone continuing the mobile web’s unstoppable aggrandizement, it seems to me that these are all winds blowing in the same direction.

I’ve never been more excited about the future.
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http://www.circleid.com/posts/iphone_dotmobi_domain/
 
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If mtld plays its cards right, they can and should capitalize on this iPhone craze. There is an obvious niche for .mobi here, at least at the moment, due to the shortcomings of viewing the 'regular internet' on the device.

They need to seize the moment and get .mobi burned in the minds of the public! That window of opportunity might not come again when the technology catches up.
 
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that's what i've been mulling over, but the inherent meaning of optimizing and emulating means reshaping and resculpting to fit, which presumably never can happen because of the screen size. Its the endusers pick of the definition of mobility that requires devices to have small enough screens to fit in the pocket that saves the day for .mobi. If small laptops or small briefcases/device carriers become rampant, screen sizes increase and .mobi is zip.
 
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the screen size is irrelavant imho. technology is coming soon with OLED, hydrogen/methanol battery power/new substrates, etc etc. the iphone will go the way of the 8 track one day replaced by alot more sophisticated gadgets with alot better and bigger screens. dont confine your thinking to the cell phone/iphone.
 
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VisionEdger said:
the screen size is irrelavant imho. technology is coming soon with OLED, hydrogen/methanol battery power/new substrates, etc etc. the iphone will go the way of the 8 track one day replaced by alot more sophisticated gadgets with alot better and bigger screens. dont confine your thinking to the cell phone/iphone.
Agreed, the future will always bring changes. But right NOW .mobi has an opportunity to find its niche, I just hope it does before it's too late. At the moment, the screen size is very relevant.
 
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so what you are saying then is the screen size of the hardware avilable today is hindering .mobi domains from succeeding?? I dont get what you are all saying about this issue.
 
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VisionEdger said:
so what you are saying then is the screen size of the hardware avilable today is hindering .mobi domains from succeeding?? I dont get what you are all saying about this issue.

What I'm saying is that the screen size is a BENEFIT for .mobi succeeding. But they need to act fast before other technology reduces the need for the ext.
 
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so it comes down to many people are getting freaked out over the screen size of smartphones that may possibly lead to devalue .mobi extensions? waste of time even considering it.

if .mobi went down the tube there would be class action lawsuits pending from alot of pissed domainers. The $$$ spent by people like us is huge and the leaders that develop the ext's into what they are would have mutiny on their hands. futire domain regs #'s would drop like an anvil.

i am curious though how can the development of new smartphone technology destroy the .mobi ext?
 
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nope. premise is that the regular internet has to be optimized to fit a cell screen, which does not yet compete aesthetic and readability-wise with mobi, yet if optimers, etc, make it so the regular internet fits nice and is readable and enjoyable on a cell screen then the mobi would lose a lot of ground.

whats up with the new screens you mention, going to check that out
 
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it sounds like iphone is knocking mobi in their commercial- do you think that will hurt mobi?
 
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I've looked over the coding requirements for the iphone and for a first generation type browser (iphone competitors will match or beat the current capabilities in very little time) it is simple to develop for on any tld. In fact, a current well designed page doesn't even need to be changed - just a special css file. The safari browser software they are using is not perfect, but since when is a first release ever perfect in any product?

Making current websites iphone compliant is so easy in fact my partners and I will be devoting time this month to converting all of our websites to be iphone ready/compliant. Together we have over 500 websites, and we wouldn't consider doing this if it was time consuming (time=money after all!) and not worth the effort.

Sorry but the iphone is going to kill .mobi in that .mobi is the extension for the mobile internet. There is no two ways about it, it makes .mobi as it was envisioned obsolete.
 
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whitebark said:
I've looked over the coding requirements for the iphone and for a first generation type browser (iphone competitors will match or beat the current capabilities in very little time) it is simple to develop for on any tld. In fact, a current well designed page doesn't even need to be changed - just a special css file. The safari browser software they are using is not perfect, but since when is a first release ever perfect in any product?

Making current websites iphone compliant is so easy in fact my partners and I will be devoting time this month to converting all of our websites to be iphone ready/compliant. Together we have over 500 websites, and we wouldn't consider doing this if it was time consuming (time=money after all!) and not worth the effort.

Sorry but the iphone is going to kill .mobi in that .mobi is the extension for the mobile internet. There is no two ways about it, it makes .mobi as it was envisioned obsolete.
I'd appreciate seeing a before and after of your work if you can post it sometime.
 
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whitebark said:
I've looked over the coding requirements for the iphone and for a first generation type browser (iphone competitors will match or beat the current capabilities in very little time) it is simple to develop for on any tld. In fact, a current well designed page doesn't even need to be changed - just a special css file. The safari browser software they are using is not perfect, but since when is a first release ever perfect in any product?

Making current websites iphone compliant is so easy in fact my partners and I will be devoting time this month to converting all of our websites to be iphone ready/compliant. Together we have over 500 websites, and we wouldn't consider doing this if it was time consuming (time=money after all!) and not worth the effort.

Sorry but the iphone is going to kill .mobi in that .mobi is the extension for the mobile internet. There is no two ways about it, it makes .mobi as it was envisioned obsolete.

pardon me but simply because you own 500 websites does not mean you have a crystal ball.

ALL .mobi websites with .mobi ext domains can be viewed via both pcs or mobiles. how can that kill an extension ?? it hasnt even started? it only ENHANCES the users expereince. big $ is spent by alot of people for .mobi and you feel its already dead? give me a break!
 
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scandiman said:
I'd appreciate seeing a before and after of your work if you can post it sometime.

There is not much to post - it will be for the most part a simple css file. Only the browser it is intended for will utilize it, other browsers will ignore the file and use the one intended for them. One of my partners enjoys writing css and he seems to think this is no challenge at all.

Everyone can view what it takes at:
http://developer.apple.com/iphone/

I must admit - I'm surprised they went to these lengths to help developers design for the safari web browser and iphone.

But as you can see from the link, any website that already adheres to proper coding practices have very little modifications if any to make.

.mobi needs to drop their current coding restrictions. They'll just leave themselves behind if they don't. :)

VisionEdger said:
pardon me but simply because you own 500 websites does not mean you have a crystal ball.

big $ is spent by alot of people for .mobi and you feel its already dead? give me a break!

Don't need a crystal ball - I've been doing this long enough to know how coding changes are undertaken by those who own and operate websites. People buying and selling mobi domains has ZERO to do with that.
 
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whitebark said:
There is not much to post - it will be for the most part a simple css file. Only the browser it is intended for will utilize it, other browsers will ignore the file and use the one intended for them. One of my partners enjoys writing css and he seems to think this is no challenge at all.

Everyone can view what it takes at:
http://developer.apple.com/iphone/

I must admit - I'm surprised they went to these lengths to help developers design for the safari web browser and iphone.
I guess what I'm trying to understand is if you are trying to reduce the need for zooming and scrolling with a new layout or if not that then what are you changing to be iPhone friendly? It's kind of a mystery to me right now.
 
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whitebark said:
There is not much to post - it will be for the most part a simple css file. Only the browser it is intended for will utilize it, other browsers will ignore the file and use the one intended for them. One of my partners enjoys writing css and he seems to think this is no challenge at all.

Everyone can view what it takes at:
http://developer.apple.com/iphone/

I must admit - I'm surprised they went to these lengths to help developers design for the safari web browser and iphone.

But as you can see from the link, any website that already adheres to proper coding practices have very little modifications if any to make.

.mobi needs to drop their current coding restrictions. They'll just leave themselves behind if they don't. :)



Don't need a crystal ball - I've been doing this long enough to know how coding changes are undertaken by those who own and operate websites. People buying and selling mobi domains has ZERO to do with that.



so coding changes = mobis death?? your rationale is bizzare man!
 
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Well, if next month Google comes out with free gphone, are you going to resign your 500 sites to fit the gphone also? How about yphone? mphone? are you going to resign for all of them?

.mobi provides a common denominator for all phones.
 
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VisionEdger said:
if .mobi went down the tube there would be class action lawsuits pending from alot of pissed domainers. The $$$ spent by people like us is huge and the leaders that develop the ext's into what they are would have mutiny on their hands. futire domain regs #'s would drop like an anvil.
Unfortunately, there are no promises with this type of investment. Mtld never told me that I would get rich from investing, or that I would make any kind of profit at all.

I'm responsible for regging .mobi names, and I assume the risk. There is a certain level of risk involved here.

That being said, I do think that they should live up to their responsibilities of doing their best to fulfill their promises, get the backers to start backing, and to do everything they can to promote .mobi and try to make it successful.
 
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garrett200 said:
Unfortunately, there are no promises with this type of investment. Mtld never told me that I would get rich from investing, or that I would make any kind of profit at all.

I'm responsible for regging .mobi names, and I assume the risk. There is a certain level of risk involved here.

That being said, I do think that they should live up to their responsibilities of doing their best to fulfill their promises, get the backers to start backing, and to do everything they can to promote .mobi and try to make it successful.

the fact is MOBI is designed for enhancing smartphone experience in its own unique way. I am amazed that other domainers other than mobi buyers come on this forum, bash the crap out of .mobi and no one says anything to confront them. Why is that??

Did you ever think alot of these types of people do it for one reason?? They hope to cause alot of negative reaction so they can pick up cheap mobis that scared mobi owners decide to dump because they react to all the negative posts going around. Its a simple yet effective method used in ALL types of business.

I for one will NOT be taken in by this negative knee jerk retoric that these people bring to this subject however I do luv to tune them up and stand behind it.
 
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