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Discussion in 'Drop Catchers and Expired Domain Services' started by Paul123, Aug 11, 2015.

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  1. FPForum

    FPForum Top Member VIP ★★★★★★★★★★

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    As you can see in the reply above, there are users out there whom have both TESTED and BEATEN backorders against registrars in the past. People have tested against themselves just to see what type of results may arise! @HDmarketing is just one member who has shared this info with me, but guess what? I've heard it from numerous other users in the past as well.

    If you read my posts, my website...etc. then one thing you will notice is that I DO NOT promote this. There are plenty of reviews across this forum, my website, and other forums that clearly explain what you should ideally use the software for! I make NO guarantee that you will beat any type of registrar or backorder outlet with this software. If anything I tell those looking to beat backorder outlets they should not use the software with that kind of expectation. It's meant to ease the process of hand registering, and that's pretty much what it's always been advertised as. If you have any further luck past that then it's great and I always love hearing stories like that. Has this type of thing happened in the past? YES, but with less competitive names and against less competitive outlets such as BackorderZone, DynaDot, and I even heard Pheenix late last year. Is it something that I would count on or go around advertising to people? NO. So... as you say, it will never happen? I've reached out to other users this has happened with in the past as well to see if they would care to share their experience here with us.

    Once again, I don't think you really have that much experience in this. You haven't bought the software, used it, tested against it, or anything of that nature. But guess what, other users have.

    If you want to sit and compare me to some Forex peddler that claims my software can beat the big boys then you obviously haven't read the website, the reviews in forum posts..etc. What have you been doing in this thread the whole time? Please tell me where I defrauded people. Where did I say something that was inaccurate? I think if you look at the reviews and talk to people who use the software you would find I try to be as honest and down to earth as possible.

    Nowhere do I claim backorder outlets or registrars use my drop catching software (I even answered someones question like that a long time ago here). But, guess who probably has a better idea on how their system actually works between the two of us? I started off honest and have remained honest the entire time. If a registrar or backorder outlet isn't putting much attention onto a name then it would certainly be possible it could be beaten. I know because people have told me this in the past. You said it could never be done even if "If every computer in the world ran one of these desktop catching software and they tried to catch a certain name" then "the registrar will still beat it with just one thread." - Once again, your statement was 100% inaccurate.

    I'm not a liar, you're just someone who doesn't know what they are really talking about and is trying to put down something you've never tried or tested. Are you going to setup a registrar and run it against all of us (certainly not 1 computer in the entire world) on "1 thread" to test your theory out? lol.. You are trying to give a review or a testimonial based on what you think you know, but have never tried. Honestly, I think you owe me and all the readers inside this thread an apology, heh...
     
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  2. dordomai

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    I beat Backorderzone once with a handreg(no script). One of my Dynadot backorders lost against of one their API customers.

    So from time to time one can beat the smaller backorder services but I think it's often not because of skills or the technology one uses but because of the other service failing.

    I don't think it happens often. I tried to beat Dynadot with their own API many times. I know others trying the same dozens of times. It didn't work out.

    Snapnames/Dropcatch. No way.
     
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  3. golan

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    @FPForum You could not even bother replying to this bunch of nonsense, let alone spending so much of your precious time for such long excuses ^^. We all know you are right, and this nonsense just isn't worth your time. You'd better spend this time on bringing us new cool features, so we'll continue grabbing great domains with your software. Let ignorant people argue with themselves.
     
  4. Cdomains

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    @AEProgram

    Just like the other guy @itaa - you have never even seen this software and never tried it.

    You are making a comment on something you have absolutely no knowledge about.

    Would you rate a movie you have never seen?

    Would you recommend a restaurant you have never eaten in?

    You are just a hater who is trying to stir things up.

    Give the software a try first before you start making comments like that.
     
  5. HDmarketing

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    You should re-read your first post: you were mentionning "registrars". Now you are mentionning "drop catching registrars". To me, these are two completely different things.

    Snapnames, Namejet, Dropcatch, Pool... are dropcatching registrars and it's true DesktopCatchers will never beat their hundreds of registrars. But @FPForum never pretended that. He constantly warns that his software won't beat Pro backordering companies. I DEFY YOU TO FIND ANY QUOTE OF @FPForum STATING HIS SOFTWARE BEATS ONE OF THE BIG BACKORDERING COMPANIES or stop treating him a liar.

    Dynadot and Pheenix are not in the same league as those above. It happens from time to time that DesktopCatchers beats them. Maybe you're right in thinking it's only because they are having a temporary glitch (eventhough I think your reasoning is flawed, because if Dynadot is broken, how come I catch domains with their own API ?)

    Anyway, I reported such succesful catching myself by private email to @FPForum a few days ago, just because I wanted to thank him for the good job he made with the software!!! It's only fair if he mentions things like that can happen in his posts, because it's the truth.
     
  6. Arca

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    It’s not promised anywhere that DesktopCatcher can beat a backorder. There is no way that it can beat companies like DropCatch and NameJet. It can beat Pheenix occasionally, but that's just because Pheenix don’t work a lot of the time, so you can even beat Pheenix by hand in those cases… When Pheenix works, it can’t beat Pheenix either.

    If anyone thinks so, they can try the software and quickly discover that they can’t beat SN/NJ/DC, and get their money back if they just ask within 7 days. They can try it for a whole week at no risk, and find out for themselves exactly what kind of names it can and can’t catch. Even if FPForum was misleading people (which I don't think he is), the people "mislead" can simply get their money back if they find it doesn't perform as expected, so these accusations being made are ridiculous.

    The software is for catching low competition names that you believe will not be backordered elsewhere, basically names that may have some value (worth a $9 investment), but will most likely fly under the radar and not be BO'ed. Or people find that they don’t want to pay the backorder cost, and just try to hand reg them instead. It does a great job of securing those names for a cheap price.

    I’ve been using it on and off since last fall, depending on what is dropping. For better names I create a backorder at SN/DC, but there are also second tier names that I don’t want to spend more than $9 on. I’ve caught about 55 names since then, which has cost me $500. None of them are amazing, but I have sold 3 of them for a total of $3640 until now, so they have more than paid for the cost of the software + all the registrations I have made with it.
     
  7. FPForum

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    First he says every computer in the world could run this software and not beat a registrar who was running "on just 1 thread".. Then people came in and said they've beaten DynaDot, Pheenix, and have even HAND REGISTERED faster than BackorderZone before. Do you still think a registrar "on just 1 thread" could beat every computer "in the world" using DesktopCatcher? Are you really sure about that? Personally, I don't think it's that cut & dry! Like @HDmarketing said, you need to re-read your initial post and the way you came off! You call me a liar, but can't point out any lies which I've told. Other users have expressed themselves in this thread and said exactly the opposite. You said it could never beat a registrar "even on 1 thread" and I told you that people have beaten registrars in the past.

    The names of the registrars or backorder outlets don't really play any importance here. I'm not telling people to chase backordered names with expectations of catching them! Honestly, whether it's DynaDot, Pheenix, DropCatch, NameJet, or SnapNames - I don't guarantee you will beat ANY OF THEM! If anything I would advise staying away from them for the best success. The biggest backorder outlets would always be a waste of time, and I've said that before. Some speculate a registrar or backorder outlet being down, some may say it's because the name didn't have many backorder requests so the registrar/outlet didn't put much focus on it..None of us would really know - unless you're in the company!

    Your cut & dry thinking is pretty bad. I doubt you know how registrars actually work with the registries. You don't know the important protocols, the limits, or likely anything else. I don't know what you mean about scare you. I'm not threatening you or anything. I have definitely chased what I would consider "quality" names in the past. Caught and pushed many of them as well. Are you going to make me go out and get more people to back me up on that now too? lol :P

    Where have I casually hinted my software can beat the big boys? Heck, where have I claimed my software can even beat the little boys aside from when I was explaining it to you? I just explained it in my previous post that I do NOT tell people it can catch anything. LOOK AT THE PREVIOUS POSTS IN THIS THREAD. 1 OF THEM WAS RIGHT BEFORE YOUR POST!
    https://www.namepros.com/threads/desktopcatcher-software.873819/page-3#post-5460053
    https://www.namepros.com/threads/desktopcatcher-software.873819/page-3#post-5469341
    https://www.namepros.com/threads/desktopcatcher-software.873819/page-2#post-5373952

    Holy crap. Your responses really do speak for themselves! I think anyone really interested can read this thread and make a solid decision for themselves. As @golan and others have said, I'm done with you now and am open to helping anyone who has real questions, testimonials, issues..etc. I'd like to give a big thanks to the users who came in to share their own experiences. If you don't want to take it from me (the creator), then take it from other people who HAVE bought it, used it, tested it, and did whatever they wanted to try and find what works best for them (or what does not). Just don't go by what someone who has never even used it says.
     
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  8. AEProgram

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    I think I made myself very clear as to what I feel is the 100% truth of desktop catchers. Do not get fooled by the flood of texts he injects in this thread, it is a common technique by those being called out and ordered to state things clearly as to the truth of what they are selling. Ignore all his cheerleaders, its just noise, ask them what they caught using it and you will have all the answers. Every product, every junk ebook, has people sticking up for it, don't let that fool you. Some people just behave that way, its irrational, but as a consumer you should be aware of that.

    Last but not least, ask yourself, how good is a domain that you are ready to pay 8-9 bucks for but not a bit under 20 for a drop catcher to grab lol. Ask yourself are you a sane domainer or just someone treating this like some fantasy casino / lotto. To some this software might simply help you grab up more domains you cannot do anything with, domain that you would have been able to handreg using a coupon :xf.grin::xf.grin:

    I warned about desktop API catchers years ago on my blog, this is nothing new or targeted to this seller alone.
     
  9. Nat Hunt

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    There must be an ulterior motive going on with @AEProgram's baseless attacks here.

    Andrew is about the most honest guy I have dealt with in domaining. His software has made me thousands of dollars and he has never mis-represented what it is ideal for and what it is not ideal for.
     
  10. AEProgram

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    No motives, I call people out and warn others all the time, just posted a warning about someone pushing via PM a trademark name and refusing to admit its a trademark.

    I have warned about many other things as well.

    His software has made you thousands of dollars, really? Selling it to others?

    Speak up and explain how, name names.

    You say he never misrepresented, well, here you go:

    What I wrote:

    "I feel very sad for those who think you can beat a registrar using desktop software. If every computer in the world ran one of these desktop catching software and they tried to catch a certain name, the registrar will still beat it with just one thread.

    Sure, for names no registrar yet you feel others will hand reg or use desktop software when it drops, sure it is important to have it so it levels the playing field."

    He replies with what is a mixture of a personal attack and garbled irrelevant information:

    "@AEProgram - I don't think you really know what you're talking about, so people should probably just ignore your post above. Do you know how registrars and their connections to the registries really work? Do you really think a registrar would beat this software using 1 registry connection? Unlike you I've done work with registries in the past, and I can tell you that you're wrong. I don't think they really work the way you're thinking...lol"

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    His message seems to try to clutter the brains of the few innocent people I woke up. He throws around nonsense, as he said himself, he is advising people to ignore my post because he thinks only he understands how registrars work and his software is the answer.

    All of you supporting him do so knowing full well that this software is giving false hope to many, you are helping in the scheme, shame on you!

    What percent of people who buy this stop using it after a few weeks lol after they wake up?

    Like I said, every industry that has a fantasy make money quick side to it has someone pushing snakeoil to the most desperate of the people.

    Beat the casino at black jack
    Make money with penny stocks
    Make money with forex
    Make money domaining
    Desktop catcher software
    SEO software

    And yes, each snakeoil salesmen has cheerleaders, people that for some odd reason decide to tell people that yes, the forex software will just sit there and make you money etc. The people who speak up against it must be shills / competition / haters / Illuminati or whatever your conspiracy mind tells you.

    And yes, I can see this software catching names that nobody is interested in, I can see it help the hangreg addicts with the gambler mentality rack up more debt. However for sane disciplined domainers, what exactly is the point.

    He expects an apology hahahaha, you cheerleaders really blew his ego up.
     
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  11. Nat Hunt

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    Yeah I'm not even gonna read that long post.

    There are a lot of sharks feeding on newbie domainers but Andrew is not one of them.

    Is anyone other than @AEProgram under the illusion that DesktopCatcher can beat DropCatch or SnapNames? I never got that impression.
     
  12. Nat Hunt

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    The way I made thousands with DesktopCatcher was by catching domains and selling them for more. It's called DOMAINING.

    Anyway, I think it's honorable to call wrong-doing out, but that's not what you're doing here.
     
  13. boziffous

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    In the two months since I've been using the DesktopCatcher software I've beaten my own backorders at Dynadot three times, Pheenix once, and GoDaddy at least 5 times.
     
  14. AEProgram

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    I assure you those names you would have been able to handreg lol

    On a serious note, has it beatin it on days that you had the names at all 3 places backordered? I know full well some days dyna, pheenix and gd just dont run, AS IT HAS been pointed out on here.

    NAME the names
     
  15. AEProgram

    AEProgram Supportive Member NamePros Supporter VIP

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    post the names you caught with this software, lets hear it, you talk big lets hear them.
     
  16. Nat Hunt

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    lol
     
  17. boziffous

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    The day the software beat Pheenix, I also had the name backordered at Dynadot and GoDaddy.
     
  18. AEProgram

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    See you messed yourself up a bit there, you regret that you only posted that it beat pheenix once or you would have been able to say that it did so more than once.

    I mean seriously, if you are at any level, you would usually always backorder at pheenix, gd and dyna as they are within same price points, you really think you can sit here and shoot me lines of BS?

    AGAIN I will warn people that every snakeoil salesman has their cheerleaders. THIS IS NO DIFFERENT.

    I will wait until these cheerleaders cook up some names to post as proof of anything, not that it matters but lets wait and at least get entertainment from these snakeoil pushers.

    I made a post about the truth about what this software is or isn't and he attacks me personally, what a fool.
     
  19. Simon Taylor

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    I find the software great to catch names in the hand reg field that I would miss to other hand reggers due to the fact I'm on the other side of the world and domains drop during the middle of the night for me.
     
  20. AEProgram

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    Thank you for your honesty, I agree for that type of stuff it is wonderful
     
  21. boziffous

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    How did I mess myself up there? It's beat Pheenix one time in my experience using the software. When I backorder at Dynadot ($15.99) I don't always backorder at Pheenix ($21.99) as well. The only reason I was even using GoDaddy backorder is because I had a free backorder credit with them.
     
  22. AEProgram

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    Let me understand, the domain you are after is a good domain, you liked it, but only at 16 bucks and not at 22 bucks?

    Also pheenix has a supersaver system where its only 14 bucks.

    You make little sense as to how you decide what names you want and how you go about catching them.

    Then again, the moment you blindly support the seller of this software regardless of the argument you lose all credibility.
     
  23. dordomai

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    How many backorders does one need to make to qualify for that?
     
  24. boziffous

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    I don't yet have the 1000 points needed to use the Pheenix supersaver system. If I think I can catch the domain using just a Dynadot backorder, why would I spend $6 more just to have Pheenix catch it instead?
     
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    I cannot help myself but respond to this. This software is a gem, I bought 2 licences, I have had a few discussions with Andrew, who is honest and cannot seem to help people enough.

    AEProgram you don't use or own the software and you're the crap you're posting without any foundation, the word troll springs to mind.

    I have 2 licences, best money I've spent I am more than delighted with it, oh and it's been updated 5 times this year alone btw but you wouldn't know that because you don't own it so you're trolling and making a fool out of yourself at the same time.

    What you make yourself out to be is a self obsessed jackass who wants to force their opinion onto everyone. There are no false claims to the software, show me where on the website it claims it will beat the likes of namebright, pheenix etc and you can't sell the software to other people, so again, you're wrong. I'd do some research, gather some facts, like normal people do before I posted the crap you're posting. Funny you're the only person I've seen moaning about it and you don't even own it, says it all right there.
     

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