computer.asia closed at $10

[evdoxos]

computer.asia closed at $10 on May 28 2008.
Does anybody know if could everyone participate in this auction?

full results:
http://www.dotasia.org/about/auctions_schedule/closed_auctions_Jun16_full.pdf

top 1000:
http://www.dotasia.org/about/auctions_schedule/closed_auctions_Jun16_top1000.pdf

 

[thenext88]

I actually live in the "Asia qualified Area" and guess what, not one .asia name has been advertised or if you approach a local, they'll look at you weird and think you're on some sort of drug.... It's going to fail because we already have ccTLD's. If you asked an Australian person what their country code was, they'd easily tell you .com.au - Any person in their country could.

Well no duh... Australia != Asia...

I mean why is .com.au even being compared? If there is anything to compare, it's the cctlds of countries actually located in Asia.

In the end it may fail... because countries like Japan and China already have very well defined cctlds like you do over in Australia. But even then... if you lived in China or Japan, would registering a .asia not be of any interest at all?

Registering .asia for purposes in Australia almost makes as much sense as registering a .asia domain for purposes here in the US... in my opinion.

FYI - I'm not saying to go out and buy a $1000+ .asia domain name. I'd highly advise against that even. All I'm saying is comparing .asia to .eu isn't exactly a fair comparison, for reasons already stated.

 

[DomainTalker]

Of course, ccTLDs in the Asian countries (and, of course, Australia) will do just fine...and continue to be well supported.

The calculation is only whether .asia will also have a place, after it gets established, as well...


Watching the landrush auctions for the names I registered for, its interesting to note the quality of the corporates that are bidding for .asia domains - both western organisations, and Asian organisations. Most bidders show as just numbers - but several bid under their own name...


Eg, I've seen bidding:


MGM Mirage - US Casino & Hotels group (Reservations.asia)

Seaview - UK-based cruise booking company (Cruise.asia)

PhatProphets - Australian stock analyst & Fund manager (oil.asia)

PCCWGlobal - Hong Kong-based communications company (oil.asia)

BOSS - Fashion & Fragrance org.(Models.asia)

...and those are just the auctions I've registered for, and seen so far, and those that disclose their real names when bidding.


That says something to me....With this quality of corporates investing in the .asia brand - and, this is only the beginning - there is no objective basis, imo, for just writing .asia off, as of no value....

One should allow that there are possibilities.

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[krebstar]

What happens with the money, dotasia earned with the auctions?
I've heared, the organisation will use it for promotion?

 

[joexbl]

What happens with the money, dotasia earned with the auctions?
I've heared, the organisation will use it for promotion?

hehe, i hope so....the amount of money they are raking in would be plenty of promotion $$$

but im sure they will pocket a lot for themselves lol :imho:

 

[tech4]

Actually the total amount of the auction is probably about $5 million at the moment. But they are not taking it all, and the those people that went out and form the dot Asia are pretty well off people. Millions of USD are pretty much junk changes to these people.

There's a lot of world tour promotion that they did, just look at their event calendar.

 

[hey.co.uk]

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If .asia plays out right, it could become the "eastern society .com" IMO. Highly unlikely, but you never know. Don't take that as being number two, but what I mean is... take a look some extensions like .us, .ca, .co.uk, and etc... no one really cares that much about them when compared to .com, so maybe the same thing will happen over there... where .asia will become top priority over the cctlds.

Erm, I would check your sales data on that. .CO.UK is miles ahead of .us/.ca or the like.

The reason .EU has failed is that the EU is lots of quite independantly minded countries with their own languages. To me that sounds very much like Asia.

One group will be getting rich for sure, the registries! All they need now is some way of launching a new extension every week (!)

 

[DomainTalker]

The reason .EU has failed is that the EU is lots of quite independantly minded countries with their own languages. To me that sounds very much like Asia.

I can't agree with that, hey...

I agree the European ccTLDs are doing fine...


But, I feel there are a couple of real differences between .eu and .asia....

.eu represents a mature, low-growth, economic region, where there were well established businesses & practices - Effectively, .eu was trying to say: 'Here's an internet identity that overrides your already long-established identity market positioning (.com, and ccTLDs etc)...'...ie it was trying to change what was already working well - and, probably surplus to requirements....So, its sluggish.


.asia, on the other hand, unlike Europe, is an identity being applied to a region made up of fast-developing countries and businesses - that largely have no current long-established identity market position....Businesses in Asia have it all to do - and, their 5-10 year growth plan involves branding themselves - easily - in the western markets, and minds, as well as with each other...

...On top of that, western business is rushing to invest in Asia - and they have an 'asian brand' strategy for their business to get up - quickly - too (their choice is 17 ccTLDs - or one, easily understood '.asia').

So, different dynamics at work for .asia, as opposed to the .eu experience, imo...

.

 

[tech4]

I find it interesting that those that did not preregistered to enter any auction are left out and their #1 reasons stated is they believe dot Asia is the same as the failed dot EU/Mobi/US.

While the're risk averse and insightful, I think domaintalker has a great point.

The market for dot Asia is unlimited and demand will rise as more people are finding interests and reasons to use dot Asia. Prices at pool auction represent "historical risks" which benefited alot from non particpations of long time domainers who did not see the value in dot Asia.

I see the returns as already exceptional.

 

[Kate]

...
So, different dynamics at work for .asia, as opposed to the .eu experience, imo....

Indeed, but if even the EU which is more integrated than Asia hasn't embraced it's TLD, why Asia would ?

...
One group will be getting rich for sure, the registries! All they need now is some way of launching a new extension every week (!)

It's an old trick: to profit from a gold rush without the risk, sell spades, picks and shovels to gold diggers :lol:

 

[joexbl]

I find it interesting that those that did not preregistered to enter any auction are left out and their #1 reasons stated is they believe dot Asia is the same as the failed dot EU/Mobi/US.

While the're risk averse and insightful, I think domaintalker has a great point.

The market for dot Asia is unlimited and demand will rise as more people are finding interests and reasons to use dot Asia. Prices at pool auction represent "historical risks" which benefited alot from non particpations of long time domainers who did not see the value in dot Asia.

I see the returns as already exceptional.

It's really quite amazing to me though how if you search for a dotasia name now (at say Godaddy for example) everything is taken, even crazy obscure stuff! Im assuming its mostly domainers buying out everything, but i cant work out if its a good or bad thing?

 

[tech4]

Its a good thing, because the numbers are in masses. Say if there the world of domainer for dot Asia has a population of 1.5 million names registered, compared to other extensions like dot mobi which after 2 years has a population of approximately 1.0 million but is declining toward..900k.

24 months=900,000 for dot mobi/simliar dot EU/US
4 months=1.5 million and growing or more for dot Asia.

I see a good trend.

 

[joexbl]

Its a good thing, because the numbers are in masses. Say if there the world of domainer for dot Asia has a population of 1.5 million names registered, compared to other extensions like dot mobi which after 2 years has a population of approximately 1.0 million but is declining toward..900k.

24 months=900,000 for dot mobi/simliar dot EU/US
4 months=1.5 million and growing or more for dot Asia.

I see a good trend.

true, but how many drops will there be a year later. Im hoping not so many.

 

[vitalir]

Here is what people are dropping in .eu these days:

manager.eu
combine.eu
playstation3.eu
contact-lens.eu

 

[tech4]

I agree with scriptforall that its incredible that dot Asia did so well during the opening. Within the few comming months of auction for dot .me and .pro, the news look very bad for them compared with dot Asia. Which is a great thing for the dot Asia community and investors.

So if mid July-August, new extensions are not taking off, and dot Asia is still the dominant, I would say that's dot Asia's mass numbers and growing registrations is solid thing.

Already, I see dot Asia as being a big pull on the liquidity of the domain market, those millions that could have went to other extensions and dot com went to dot Asia.

 

[DomainTalker]

Indeed, but if even the EU which is more integrated than Asia hasn't embraced it's TLD, why Asia would ?

Kath....For me, the key driver of profit for my .asia domains is not about whether businesses & individuals across Asia, itself, embrace the .asia extension....I agree, like Europe, ccTLDs across Asia will be strong - and, are unlikely to be replaced by a generic pan-Asia extension (tho, I think some will also have a .asia identity, in addition to their ccTLD).

If I was betting that Chinese businesses, for example, would replace their .cn with .asia, then I would expect to lose money.


For me, the main driver of value in good .asia names will be (and is) the rush of new western business investment into the powerhouse economies of Asia - which will likely vastly increase over the foreseeable future. I think these companies' need for a fast-branding mechanism, that easily signals their new Asia strategy - for both asian business markets, and western markets, but, mainly western markets - will lead them to invest in a .asia web presence (they may also adopt ccTLDs for selected target asian countries)...

This 'rush of new corporate money' dynamic was not at work in Europe to support .eu value.

I think there is a 1-5 year window, where selected .asia domains will be in great demand from western businesses with plans for the Asian region, with outstanding opportunities for those that are in a position to supply good .asia domains.

My strategy, therefore, is an end user strategy - not a 'churn' strategy of on-selling to other domainers, for my best profits (tho there may be the odd flip)...

So, I'm not looking at my .asia domains for Parking income - nor for traffic metrics - nor for domainer-value....I'm looking at them as a Brand opportunity for target corporate buyers.


The number of major western corporates that I see now bidding in the Landrush auctions I'm involved in (see my post above), suggests to me that my strategy is on track.

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[tech4]

MGM Mirage bought title.asia for $60 bucks. I was the only one besides them who were in the auction...I forgot about it and let it slip for $60!

 

[joexbl]

Here is what people are dropping in .eu these days:

manager.eu
combine.eu
playstation3.eu
contact-lens.eu

I dunno, man, i find that hard to believe - 'manager.eu' wouldn't be dropped....do you have proof of that?

MGM Mirage bought title.asia for $60 bucks. I was the only one besides them who were in the auction...I forgot about it and let it slip for $60!

I would say bummer, dude, but i guess had you bid for it, they woulda bid you out of the water imho

 

[vitalir]

I dunno, man, i find that hard to believe - 'manager.eu' wouldn't be dropped....do you have proof of that?

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