Southtexas81
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If a .com domain name was sold at $100k what would be the value of the .net and .org of the exact matching name?
opinion .com vs .net vs .org valuation correlation
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Southtexas81
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I'm looking to buy a .org name. The .com name and .net is taken BUT my question was hypothetical because the .com owner actually wants $600k for his .com name. The .net is in use but not very appealing. The exact match keywords generate 60,000 searches per month worldwide. I have spoken to the owner of this .com domain name and he said he turned down $100k. The guy is a multi millionaire so letting it go is not a priority nor interest in using it. I feel because i know where he sets his value for the .com that the .org should pull in more than it is currently worth if he was ever to sell it. Am I right at least about that assumption?
Southtexas81
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The question has been asked over and over.
It's like asking how long is a piece of string.
First of all, many sales are one of a kind. A name may sell in .com but is unlikely to sell in another extension, unless for example it is a generic term. But what is valuable in .com may have little value in .net/.org, and thus never sell.
You should ask yourself why the domain is still available if it's valuable.
It's like asking how long is a piece of string.
First of all, many sales are one of a kind. A name may sell in .com but is unlikely to sell in another extension, unless for example it is a generic term. But what is valuable in .com may have little value in .net/.org, and thus never sell.
You should ask yourself why the domain is still available if it's valuable.
Southtexas81
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True but it's the most popular keyword within my niche. Plus I dont think people realize it's available. 99% of all extensions are taken but not the .org. it's a gold nugget waiting to turn into a gold bar. That's my take .
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I will also wait if you can share here on this post or via PM
Southtexas81
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.com in this niche receives zero traffic because the owner never optimized it. Does not appear in searches. Only the .net does. And only the .net out of all owned extensions appears in Google 1st page searches because he has a website. I guess I'm getting off topic of my original question. I see your point but I think there are special circumstances in play. I'm not a reseller. I'm just curious. Because I know my niche very well and the who's who of this niche my educated guess it can easily net $30k. I'm just trying to find out how off I am. Plus I own 30 more names.
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This was already measured a few years ago using Sedo data: https://idnx.com/#tld
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I'm talking about type-in traffic...
Not about Search or backlinks.
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Any answer in terms of % is WRONG!
In fact .. the only "reliable" answer is "0% .. with a lot of exceptions".
You need to keep in mind that your original question completely ignores the very important and huge difference between .com, .net and .org .. this should be your question ...
Basically you need to keep in mind that most domains that exist and sell in .com will never sell in neither .net or .org at any percentage. I'd say that was the case for a vast majority of domains.
.net in my eyes has essentially gone down from one of the common base TLD's, to a very good ngTLD (tech related) .. meaning that it's still good to grab (1) tech terms, or (2) short super-strong real word brandables that could be used by a tech company (like "apple", "oracle", "monkey", etc). For those 2 very small and specific sub-sets of .net yes you can generally maybe get anywhere from 1% to 5% of the .com (keeping in mind that even with the difference, there will be more demand for the .com). Bear in mind that 1-5% is just a perceived average, and that it will really depend on the exact domain, as it could easily be far less than 1%. Conversely just a very small chance of anything close to 10% of .com.
Also remember that the value of a domain has absolutely nothing to do with what the .com is selling for, the value of a domain is what it actually sells for. There are tons of domains that will never sell for even $1000 that are listed at 6 figures.
.org on the other hand hasn't really changed or dropped at all. But again, just like .net is now, the domain absolutely needs to make sense for .org. I like .org's for information/help type sites. Obviously products, industry associations and non-profits. Essentially .org is when you want the site visitors to perceive you are not-for-profit or impartial (reviews). So strong generic terms here, not brandables. IF the domain makes sense in .org, then I think the average relative value or .org is stronger than the average relative value of .net.
Also keep in mind that there are very few domains that work .net that also would work in .org.
So at the end of the day, you should never consider a .net or .org to automatically be any fixed % of the .com. Most of the time you should never buy either because they will simply never sell unless you get extremely lucky.
In fact .. the only "reliable" answer is "0% .. with a lot of exceptions".
You need to keep in mind that your original question completely ignores the very important and huge difference between .com, .net and .org .. this should be your question ...
Basically you need to keep in mind that most domains that exist and sell in .com will never sell in neither .net or .org at any percentage. I'd say that was the case for a vast majority of domains.
.net in my eyes has essentially gone down from one of the common base TLD's, to a very good ngTLD (tech related) .. meaning that it's still good to grab (1) tech terms, or (2) short super-strong real word brandables that could be used by a tech company (like "apple", "oracle", "monkey", etc). For those 2 very small and specific sub-sets of .net yes you can generally maybe get anywhere from 1% to 5% of the .com (keeping in mind that even with the difference, there will be more demand for the .com). Bear in mind that 1-5% is just a perceived average, and that it will really depend on the exact domain, as it could easily be far less than 1%. Conversely just a very small chance of anything close to 10% of .com.
Also remember that the value of a domain has absolutely nothing to do with what the .com is selling for, the value of a domain is what it actually sells for. There are tons of domains that will never sell for even $1000 that are listed at 6 figures.
.org on the other hand hasn't really changed or dropped at all. But again, just like .net is now, the domain absolutely needs to make sense for .org. I like .org's for information/help type sites. Obviously products, industry associations and non-profits. Essentially .org is when you want the site visitors to perceive you are not-for-profit or impartial (reviews). So strong generic terms here, not brandables. IF the domain makes sense in .org, then I think the average relative value or .org is stronger than the average relative value of .net.
Also keep in mind that there are very few domains that work .net that also would work in .org.
So at the end of the day, you should never consider a .net or .org to automatically be any fixed % of the .com. Most of the time you should never buy either because they will simply never sell unless you get extremely lucky.
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.Com vs. Org - there are too many variables to offer a simple equation or ratio.
Some .Org domains are perfectly suited to perform as well and have as much utility (and potential to generate a cash flow) as the .Com version.
For example:
Tourism.com vs. Tourism.org? Multi-billion dollar "industry". Who is better positioned? I'm not going to say .Com is the winner.
Commerce.com vs. Commerce.org? Ditto. Trade.com vs. Trade.org? You start to get the idea.
Investing.com vs. Investing.org -> "Oh, well, you can set up Investing.com as a site that engages in commercial activity!" Ummm . . yeah . . but is that what they've actually spun up on Investing.com . . or is it a simply "news and info" site . . and please don't tell me that Investing.org won't work just as well, if not better. Furthermore. Investing.org might be superior if one chose to focus on green and socially conscious investing - an emerging and substantial fork of the investing space. There's room for .Com and .Org to compete.
I could go on but I trust I've advanced my point at least a little few yards down the playing field towards the goal of convincing you that's there isn't a simple formula or ratio to evaluate a .Com vs. a .Org prime commercial domain, that is, a business-centric, high value market, and has a high search volume.
And, yes, I'm the registrant of the example domains and a few more that work equally well as commercial grade domains . . under the .Org extension. For example: Airport.org, Export.org, Manufacturing.org, . . . etc.
Don't get me wrong. I'm not saying ALL .Org domains are in the same league. They're not. Sneakers.com beats Sneakers.org. (You MIGHT build a "buy one, we'll give one away site on Sneakers.org - the chosen business model utility is a variable.)
However, "commercial grade", one word, industry defining, high search volume, significant size industry domains . . they're in a league of their own.
Don't subscribe to an BS simplistic formula . . unless you're in the market attempting to snatch a .Org domain on the cheap. Then, for sure, argue for "it's 5-10% of the value of the .Com". Accept that valuation along with the sack of manure that comes with it. :p
Alrighty, back to being a ghost. Just here by circumstance. A/K/A CrankyOldMan @ long gone DomainState (miss that place and a few of the fellas that used to post there) and Webwork @ WebmasterWorld.
Some .Org domains are perfectly suited to perform as well and have as much utility (and potential to generate a cash flow) as the .Com version.
For example:
Tourism.com vs. Tourism.org? Multi-billion dollar "industry". Who is better positioned? I'm not going to say .Com is the winner.
Commerce.com vs. Commerce.org? Ditto. Trade.com vs. Trade.org? You start to get the idea.
Investing.com vs. Investing.org -> "Oh, well, you can set up Investing.com as a site that engages in commercial activity!" Ummm . . yeah . . but is that what they've actually spun up on Investing.com . . or is it a simply "news and info" site . . and please don't tell me that Investing.org won't work just as well, if not better. Furthermore. Investing.org might be superior if one chose to focus on green and socially conscious investing - an emerging and substantial fork of the investing space. There's room for .Com and .Org to compete.
I could go on but I trust I've advanced my point at least a little few yards down the playing field towards the goal of convincing you that's there isn't a simple formula or ratio to evaluate a .Com vs. a .Org prime commercial domain, that is, a business-centric, high value market, and has a high search volume.
And, yes, I'm the registrant of the example domains and a few more that work equally well as commercial grade domains . . under the .Org extension. For example: Airport.org, Export.org, Manufacturing.org, . . . etc.
Don't get me wrong. I'm not saying ALL .Org domains are in the same league. They're not. Sneakers.com beats Sneakers.org. (You MIGHT build a "buy one, we'll give one away site on Sneakers.org - the chosen business model utility is a variable.)
However, "commercial grade", one word, industry defining, high search volume, significant size industry domains . . they're in a league of their own.
Don't subscribe to an BS simplistic formula . . unless you're in the market attempting to snatch a .Org domain on the cheap. Then, for sure, argue for "it's 5-10% of the value of the .Com". Accept that valuation along with the sack of manure that comes with it. :p
Alrighty, back to being a ghost. Just here by circumstance. A/K/A CrankyOldMan @ long gone DomainState (miss that place and a few of the fellas that used to post there) and Webwork @ WebmasterWorld.
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In re: .Net domains - "Back in the day", when a keyword in a domain had value for SEO purposes, there was utility to .Net domains and some were deployed, with other significant SEO skillz, to great success. Today? Meh. A lot of .Net domains that once ruled the SERPs have been allowed to drop and rightfully so.
Does that mean I don't own any .Net domains? No, I hold a few. Very few. Like Ategy said ~~ they have to fit the specification of the .Net gTLD, that is, IMHO "network related". For example, IF you owned ISP.net, Servers.net, Routers.net, or Hosting.net you'd be doing alright.
The few I own are like Intranets.net, Extranets.net, VirtualPrivateNetwork(s).net, etc. Not many but all "on target". Otherwise I don't touch them. I wouldn't turn my nose on something like Mortgage.net or Homes.net but I also wouldn't lose my mind bidding on them. YMMV.
Does that mean I don't own any .Net domains? No, I hold a few. Very few. Like Ategy said ~~ they have to fit the specification of the .Net gTLD, that is, IMHO "network related". For example, IF you owned ISP.net, Servers.net, Routers.net, or Hosting.net you'd be doing alright.
The few I own are like Intranets.net, Extranets.net, VirtualPrivateNetwork(s).net, etc. Not many but all "on target". Otherwise I don't touch them. I wouldn't turn my nose on something like Mortgage.net or Homes.net but I also wouldn't lose my mind bidding on them. YMMV.
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