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.com is unavailable, should I prefer a .net or .co domain?

Labeled as question in Domain Extensions started by Voslo, Dec 18, 2014.

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  1. Voslo

    Voslo Established Member

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    For an investment purpose:
    Should I buy and invest in LLL.net and LLLL.net or in LLL.co and LLLL.co?
    Some brandable and pronounceable domains are still available or can be bought for a few bucks.

    Focusing only on CVC, VCV, CVCV, VCVC, CVVC, VCCV and dictionary words.
     
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  2. nicedomains

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    LLL.co only if they are pronounceable or really primo letters...for a few bucks. LLL.net can't be bought under $xxx. LLLL.net don't waste your time. Best bet is to stick to short .coms.
     
  3. Voslo

    Voslo Established Member

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    Thank you @nicedomains for your reply.
    Can you explain to me why buy LLLL.net is a waste of time? Some of them are very brandable (CVCV, VCVC) and can be bought for less than $8.

    Yes, I agree, LLL.net are more expensive. However, is it worth to buy it?
     
  4. wwwulff

    wwwulff Top Contributor VIP

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    They are a waste of time because they are difficult to resell, but if you believe in brandable cvcv.net in the long run so buy some - the reason they are so cheap is that no one else wants them now.

    LLL.net is better but has also fallen in price in recent years, perhaps the best of them will come up in price again - It´s a gamle but who knows.

    Personally, I'd stick to coms
     
  5. Voslo

    Voslo Established Member

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    Thank you @wwwulff, I understand better now.

    I will stay focused on the .com domain names ;)
     
  6. tomcarl

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    If I had no other choice, I'd personally go with .net over .co

    It's the senior and .co is more likely to confuse people. I can say that when I tried marketing .CO domains (only about 10 or so), nearly every domain I emailed about received a response asking ".com? what's .co?" followed by no interest after explaining. Doubling your work, not only do you have to sell the keyword(s), you've got to sell the extension too, unlike with a .net. I wouldn't risk building a brand on it, the chances are higher to redirect your visitors to the .com version of your name. Plus you still see .net sales being reported every week, not the case with .co, can't remember the last time I seen a 4 figure co sale being advertised.
     
  7. anhnguyenict

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    .co is more fashion, rare sales relate to .net

    However, renewal fee of .co is more expensive. ( ~ $24 / ~ $8 )
     
  8. Voslo

    Voslo Established Member

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    Thank you @tomcarl for your interesting point of view.

    With your diverging opinions, it is quite difficult to make a choice.
    .net is a well known extension and .co are currently very popular with entrepreneurs in Silicon Valley.

    You're right @anhnguyenict, renewal fees of .co are more expensive. This is why, using coupon codes may be interesting.
     
  9. stub

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    If the .com is taken, and no other tld's are taken, which is presumed if the.net isn't taken, I'd 100% go for the.net over the .co. Of course, you need to have a plan to sell it to somebody. Just speculating on wzy.net (or any other .net which isn't registered) without a plan, isn't going to yield any results, in the short term.
     
  10. Voslo

    Voslo Established Member

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    Thanks @stub!
    Would it be possible and easier to build a brand on a .net domain? (Knowing that .com domain is unavailable)
    This is the goal of an end-user.
     
    Last edited: Dec 19, 2014
  11. bmugford

    bmugford www.DataCube.com PRO ICA Member VIP ★★★★★★★★★★

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    Domainers might shun .NET, but there are still far more end users who will consider a .NET vs a .CO.

    I would go with .NET by a wide margin. While it is a secondary option to .COM, it is still widely known and used. It also does not face the same potential confusion of .CO vs .COM. Many people are just going to assume .CO is a typo and add a M at the end.

    Still, you need to buy the right domains at the right price. .NET need to be really high quality to have any real resale value.

    Brad
     
  12. vdonline

    vdonline Top Contributor VIP

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    I personally prefer .net
    I remember when I text my friend about an website using .co extension, he asked me "typo?"
     
  13. Voslo

    Voslo Established Member

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    I understand. I'll focus on brandable .net domains and try to purchase the right domains at the right price. Only on aged 4 premium letter domains at 8$ or $10.

    I wouldn't like that people confuse my .co domain with the .com.
     
  14. baseballworld

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    I would go with .net if the .Com is taken. Would have to be something I really wanted though.
     
  15. tultseo

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    .net domain, it is more recognized than the .co in terms of marketing. People tend to recognize it more than the .co. You see on TV websites being promoted with .net extensions
     
  16. Domainzy

    Domainzy Money is a Game VIP

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    Stick to .com's.

    Thats all i was gonna write, however this reminds me of a lesson my dad taught me when i was young. "Buy premium, so you don't have to buy it twice"

    He said almost every product has a 'cheap', an 'affordable', a 'premium', and also an 'over priced' brand. He said 'cheap' & 'overpriced' are for fools who don't know better, and always go with 'premium' if you can get it, if not settle on 'affordable' not cheap'

    When in comes to domains: (imo)
    Cheap- .info
    Affordable- .net & .org
    Premium- .com
    Overpriced- .co & .biz & .gLTD's(with rare exceptions)
     
  17. Voslo

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    Thank you @Jahfree, your reply is very helpful! I really like your analysis.

    I would like to stick to .com's but unfortunately, the asking price for them are often too high for a domainer like me. They don't take into account the fact I am a domainer and not an end-user.
     
  18. stub

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    With maybe a few exceptions, two word .net's are only worth regfee. Single word .net's are probably over your budget, in most cases. Three character .nets might have some value, if you can afford them. Four character .nets are such a gamble, unless you know what you are doing. There isn't really a brandables market in .net's. Most .net's have a long wait time before they sell. So where are you going to invest in these .net's?
     
  19. alien51

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    Yes. I have built quite a few brand business on a .NET extension myself. This is because the .COM versions were all being sat on by domainers and they were asking me for boatloads of money. And i kinda like the keyword-combination of the domain name as a brand so i chose the option not to look for other .COM names and instead went ahead and built the business on a .NET.

    All my .NETs are ranking nicely on search engines (content and SEO are king).

    In order for the .COMs to be rendered unusable by domainers, TMs were applied on the keyword-combo to shut out the specific goods & services that my .NETs are catering. If ever these domainers found a buyer for their .COMs in the future, they can't use the domains in the same "goods & services" as my TMs.

    I am sure all sensible End-User buyers would first check on the Trademark Database to see if the domain will infringe on someone else's business, before buying the domain.
     
  20. Voslo

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    Thank you very much @alien51. Your reply is very useful and interesting. I think I will do the same.
    All I need now is to choose the right domain name and then to buy it at a good price.
     
  21. bene

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    lll.net is a good investment others are crap.
    just my opinion
     
  22. jdab

    jdab Jamie Dąbrowiecki VIP Trusted Contest Holder

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    Is it to resell or for a project?
     
  23. Voslo

    Voslo Established Member

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    Both.
    First, I am looking for a short and brandable domain for a new project.
    A .net domain is more affordable than a .com. However, I would prefer a .com domain but unfortunately, all the domainers I emailed are willing to sell their domains for a small fortune.

    Then, I would like to build a portfolio of brandable and pronounceable domain names in order to resell them later.
     
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  24. stub

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    If it's for a project, then none of my comments are relevant. My comments were based on you being a reseller of the domain. It also sounds like you are branding the domain to your domain business. You can do that with any domain, .com, .net, et al. You can pick up decent .com domain related to domains, from the drops, or Pre-Release auctions from $5 to $69, or just wait for them to drop and pay reg-fee. You could also pick up a brandable in the same way. I wouldn't personally go through this angst of going for a .net, when you have so much choice out there. You must have some other preconceived notions, like it must be an LLL/LLLL domain. Whereas you should be looking for a domain with the word "domain" or "name" in it. Plural if at the end of the name, singular if at the beginning. Unless you are going to brand the name to your business. Then it doesn't matter what the domain is called or what extension you use. But it will cost you more in SEO services. Domains with "domain or "name" in them, are usually already "branded" to the selling of domains. I would personally recommend you stick with a .com domain, since selling .com domains from a .net address seems a bit iffy to me.
     
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  25. alien51

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    I agree. Resell and Projects, are two different things.

    Reselling a .NET domain is a difficult prospect.

    If you are trying to build a project on a .NET with the purpose of reselling it as a website package, i am not pretty sure about that idea either. Simply because a buyer looking at your business, may not necessarily have a strategy in mind on how to proceed with owning an online business on a 2nd-rate extension. Most of them have a ".COM is King" in mind, and would be wondering why on earth you have a website running on a .NET ?

    If you are planning to run a .NET "project", this means it is assumed you know exactly what you want, and what you are doing.
     

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