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Hi,

My husband's bar/restaurant has recently closed, and I'm looking into how to sell the domain name we had for the business...Home.

What do you think it could be worth? I've had it for probably 10 years, maybe more.

Also, is it possible to simply lease the usage of the domain? I'm thinking about generating long term income, if at all possible.

Thanks for your opinions!
 
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I think its a very good domain name.

Its brandable and easy to remember.

Have you thought about trying to sell it to any of the big beer companies? You could try and send them an email to enquire would they be interested. Its a top quality domain I would guess at around 20k+ to the right end user.
 
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It's an exceptionally good adjective/noun keyword name. I think I've actually used that very name as an example when describing what constitutes a good adjective driven keyword name...

Definite live-auction material.
 
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On reflection, you may even well surpass 20k. It is a fantastic name.
 
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Great name! I agree with the above appraisals: to the right end user low to mid $xx,xxx at least!
 
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This is a classic example of a somewhat big-time .com name being found 'in the wild' ; where someone had a business in the 1990's, had the foresight to buy a generic keyword/keyphrase name but used it for a relatively small personal venture.

I was in Michigan about six years ago when I drove by a small shop in a strip mall that had their web address lettered across their front window. I actually turned the car around and drove back to do a double take... Highly relevant, industry-pertinent one-worder .com being used as a webpage for this dinky little place. The name was probably worth more than the business. I went in and asked the guy if he had any interest in selling the name- he kinda smiled, knew exactly what he had (and what I was getting after) and gave me the back story... which summarized with his not being interested in selling...

Anyway, seeing a domain like ColdBeer.com being used for a little hole-in-the-wall bar on the Eastern Shore of MD is kinda awesome. Definite throwback to the mid 1990's :gn:
I don't know if this name is lease material. Its 'value' really isn't as a keyword specific search term as much as it is a picture-perfect, generic branding platform. People don't really 'lease' unique, fundamental building-blocks related to their brand. They buy them, or brand on something else. If you had some beer related names that generated a ton of type-ins from people seeking some specific sort of beer-related information, that would be a lease candidate.
 
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I think its a very good domain name.

Its brandable and easy to remember.

Have you thought about trying to sell it to any of the big beer companies? You could try and send them an email to enquire would they be interested. Its a top quality domain I would guess at around 20k+ to the right end user.

On a related note, who do you find it best to contact at these companies to make an offer. At a small company it's relatively easy to find someone, but at the bigger ones, it's not like you could email the CEO of Anheiser Busch (in this case) very easily and get a response.
I have some domains that I think would have a good shot at being sold to some end-users, but never knew the best way to contact them. Is there some department you've found to be the most appropriate to inquiries like this? Would appreciate your insight and suggestions.
 
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This domain is a gem as far as branding goes. I think it could sell for $20K - $50K

Brad
 
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there is a compnay that specializes in leasing domain names , cant remember their name but no doubt a google search would find them , i would keep this asset unless i got 50k minimum , you can alwaus put in one of the 'traffic domain auctions' if reserve not meet .......keep it , lease it

we love your name !
 
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the technical contact on this domain either owns or operates dmv.com, wonder if he was the genious behind recommending the purchase to the owner baxk in the day. If you can sell and get $50K from a domain in this economy, when your cost is nil, you would probably get a better return on having the $50K cash, and earning whatever interest, than having the lease payments, with no cash in hand.
 
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On a related note, who do you find it best to contact at these companies to make an offer. At a small company it's relatively easy to find someone, but at the bigger ones, it's not like you could email the CEO of Anheiser Busch (in this case) very easily and get a response.
I have some domains that I think would have a good shot at being sold to some end-users, but never knew the best way to contact them. Is there some department you've found to be the most appropriate to inquiries like this? Would appreciate your insight and suggestions.

In the case of a name like this, you would start by finding *every* small, midsize and large beer manufacturer in all English speaking countries. Remember: Mars or Hershey didn't buy Candy.com. Melville Candy did. It's entirely possible that the behemoths won't 'get it' (or, maybe a few of them "get it" but navigating the corporate bureaucracy makes it difficult for decisions to be made...) while some trendy, smaller outfit will get it. The costs associated with acquiring good domain names are still a pittance compared to what an operating business spends on advertising and marketing, so don't write off the smaller concerns. They have marketing budgets too, and while not as comparatively large as their bigger competitors, still large enough to make a helluva domain sale (this is why premium, industry relevant generic domains are still way 'cheap')

From there, you would determine who handles their marketing and advertising. I would imagine the larger ones have some in-house capacity for this, as well as contracting for it on an as-needed basis. Smaller concerns probably contract exclusively. Further, you would find out any/all external advertising agencies and marketing firms that handle/have handled beer marketing and ads, even if they aren't at the moment.

You would compile lists of CEO's, CTO's and COO's too- at the beer companies, the marketing agencies, any beer/beverage related trade unions or organizations, trade organizations for beer distributors, importers, wholesalers... Just as important as targeting the decision-makers is targeting the people who influence the decision-makers. This is tech; tech is usually delegated, save for decisions like this.

In short, you would compile one big-ass list of names, addresses, emails and phone numbers.

Then, you would generate buzz.

Phase 1 would start the process with a simple, chic lander on the domain- something to the effect of "For the first time ever, ColdBeer.com is being made available for sale... There can be only one owner of this amazing marketing platform; will it be your company?"

From there, I'm a fan of direct mailing little three color postcards with relevant information.
After that, a phone calls, then letters, either reiterating what we talked about on the phone, or re-introducing the name, since the earlier phone calls never got through.

You'll probably start to get some return contacts. Here, test the waters to see if you don't get any white-whale type offers. There's a good chance that at least a few of them will 'get it' and want to close the deal without risking losing the name by making a whopper of an offer right up front, but don't plan on this. Plan on it going to auction. If you do get such an offer, though, be prepared to hop on a plane, fast.

Phase 2 would be similar to phase 1, but with finite sales information included. Auction dates, times, starting prices, etc. Again, more phone calls and voice mails - not the point of being a nuisance, but to the point that the sale of this name is cemented in their minds.

Here, you get your auction plan in the works, with a starting bid/reserve
in mind.
The only time you use email is as a method of post-contact communication. You do not initiate contact with email, as emails are garbage in situations like this. Always have been, always will be.

I could probably write 10 pages on this, but I'll stop here. Good luck. It's the sort of name that might bring XX,XXX, but with bigbigbig upside potential if the right people get excited over it and want it badly enough. If I owned a beer company, I would not be outbid on this name.
 
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Keep writing those pages...have him hire you, you are on the right track.

Coldbeer.com is indeed a franchise. Just for fun I played with my magicjack international and called overseas. I talked to Heiniken (Netherlands) and Baltika (Russia). Hold onto your hat.

This is potentially a low to mid $,$$$,$$$ name, just based on my assessment of the people I chatted to for a few minutes. Ironically, this name may even be worth more than "cold" by itself, though not as much as "beer".

Bottom line: I believe this question for asking for a valuation is beyond the scope of such a forum. You may consider (actually, "SHOULD" consider) getting an outside seasoned agent to sell this name, as the final price they may get would be well beyond that of any amateur seller. You will probably gross more from the sale of the domain than you have your entire business career selling beer.

Coors would seem to be the most likely target, as much of their advertising is based on how cold their beer is. They've spent tens of millions of dollars developing a label that turns blue when the beer is cold enough to drink. I would go for at least 3 million myself, but that's only because I know the brewery mentality. The domain selling pro would probably have a better play on it.
 
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Rantwire, you could be right. Its an absolute gem of a name, one of the top 50 I can think of.
 
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Very nice, i have drunk a few of those in my time, being an Aussie! I agree it is ideal for a large beer company to run a promotion with, such as VB in Australia do.

I would think this would be a great domain to lease out, whenever a company wants to promote a new beer, or just redirect people to contests they are running ATM.

Thats what i would do, park it and offer it to several large brewers to lease.

If you realy want to sell it i would talk to a domain broker, like the two Ricks for example (Rick Schwartz, Rick Latona).

Great domain.
 
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Could you imagine the lucky owner? Worked long hours 7 days a week, did their own thing from week to week, business failed, then think oh, we will just see if we can get a few quid for the domain name. Then realize you have had the jackpot winning ticket all along lol

I am not sure it went exactly like this, but its a nice thought.
 
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You have a million dollar baby!

forget the lowballs of $xx,xxx.

Congrats on a fine name and will enjoy a cold one tonight(Coors Light) in its honor. Yeah, seven figure sum is worth it to the company that picks it up. They spend more than that for a 30 second spot commercial in the SuperBowl.
 
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What an awesome name! I've had some good luck approaching advertising agencies with generic product domains (none of this level of quality, but still decent product/service generics.) Oftentimes if you dig around a little for companies that are producing online campaigns for retail clients it is possible to find some sincere interest. Additionally, I have found ad agencies to be amenable to short-term agreements that amount to "renting" a domain, especially if presented to them at a substantially reduced price. The net result of that is that I had a national ad company spend who knows how much advertising a domain for me, and still owned the domain (and latent traffic) once they were done with it.


Frank
 
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I think this is a great domain, but it is certainly not in the top 50 domains. As far branding it is very nice, but it shows virtually no traffic which million dollar keyword domains normally come with.

Brad

Rantwire, you could be right. Its an absolute gem of a name, one of the top 50 I can think of.

You have a million dollar baby!

forget the lowballs of $xx,xxx.
 
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As far branding it is very nice, but it shows virtually no traffic which million dollar keyword domains normally come with.

Given the domain though, and who the end-user would probably be, I don't really think traffic matters. If one of the beer companies wants to buy this for a promotion, or even use it for something more permanent, I think the past traffic will have little impact on the sale price. It's not like they're buying an established site based on its current stats/future potential and are going to continue to run it, they'll only be after the domain and what it could do for them.
 
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