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[nothere]

appraisals please. It's a really old name

There's money in dentistry etc etc

 

[bmugford]

The domain itself is easily worth 5 figures IMO.

Brad

 

[slader23]

Personally, I wouldn't sell this for less than 15k, this has great development potential in the medical field as well. It goes way beyond your "mom and pop" dental clinics. There are some big medical media companies that have domains like this and use them as info sites, for example Yourdentistryguide.com/, which is run by Ceatus Media Group. Dental Center would fit perfectly in the portfolio of websites for companies like this, because its a top medical keyword+center. Great name for the field and thats what people really need to be looking at when making these kind of appraisals.

Reseller $1k to $3k.

End User $10k minimum. If you want to sell it quick, $7.5k but I really wouldn't be keen on selling it for mid 4 figures.

 

[nothere]

it's a failure too, so little traffic you don't even have an alexa

so any adsense is probably you using proxies or different ip/devices to churn a little minor coin

Now you're getting out of hand and accusing me of fraud, so you should watch your mouth. I've had adsense since 2003, made $XXX,XXX with zero warnings.

I never said I made that much today, yesterday or last year. Place a $10,000 bet and I'll show adsense figures over the past 10-15 years. I never said to value the site, as it is now, I specifically said name.

It' not my fault you made a fool of yourself as an appraiser in this thread.

FYI: I've had 90,000+ pages on Googe with a diff template and quite a bit of traffic.

 

[Brands.International]

Very good name..can achieve 15k+ for right end user

 

[slader23]

No one looks for 'dental center' the big gun is 'dentist(s)'

so it has no 'development' potential and it's future home for a dentist already using the phrase most likely with a geo right now

dentist(s) is the gem and any prefix with that keyword is gold to mine in development

that's my opinion as a developer and domain name speculator/investor

it's not 'limited' it's my real life opinion doing this for over 20 years

The niche word is dental not dentist, you don't buy "dentist" coverage you buy dental coverage. I don't go to a "dentist clinic " to get my teeth checked I go to a dental clinic. Dental is the consumer facing terminology, dentist refers directly to the occupation. I can't believe you've been doing this for years if you are appraising with such poor logic. Dental is the consumer facing keyword and that is undoubtedly where the majority of money goes into advertising.

Medical insurance is also another niche this name covers.....this name has many profitable uses.

 

[idomainappraisal]

nothere I'm gonna give you a real professional bit of advice

nice job 20K pages indexed in google

the problem is it's not wordpress

so find a guy/girl to get it into wordpress

then get wp clone

then start to clone your site on way better names for dentists

20K pages on a wordpress site you can clone, you can sell dentist directories all day long

so 20K pages = money

your problem is it's bootstrap not WP

once you get into WP you use WP CLONE to clone it all day on way better terms for dentist

anyway, since most names here are for names only I didn't even bother to look at the url

now that you're harping about adsense etc, okay, it's developed

it's a failure too, so little traffic you don't even have an alexa

so any adsense is probably you using proxies or different ip/devices to churn a little minor coin

no alexa means FAILURE yet 20K pages = nice bit of data in a legit niche DENTISTS

So getting it into wordpress and cloning on better domains can let you sell it over and over to newbs not realizing they are getting a cloned directory

For boostrap lovers, WP is the most use css around the themes and plugins are great

Only problem is on shared networks with lots of WP users the load on the servers make the sites slow dogs

Typical WP site on godaddy 2mb now takes 10 seconds to load, yet IF DONE RIGHT on a cloud network built for wordpress the same 2MB site can open in 600 to 900 milliseconds

Today we only do WP development since we mastered it in the cloud environment

That being said, if bootstrap has a plugin line WP clone do the clone in bootstrap

the money in this domain is the 20K pages indexed in google

that is PORTAL type development so the development has legit value if you can get it onto a way better name that will result in way more organic traffic

you can see how the name is now, NO ALEXA it's why you should never had used it for development

Same content 20K pages with good seo on a fast network on a legit dentist keyword .com would mean strong alexa and then you have traffic to monetize it

right now no alexa means failure

but nice job 20K pages

 

[nothere]

How's that 1eMail.com thing going? People must be going nuts to get it first. You should also get 101010101email.com just to be sure.

Traffic, FYI, depends of how much attention you have paid lately to a site. So if you neglect the site for 5-10 years, obviously you'll have no meaningful traffic. But it doesn't mean it it ever had traffic

But you win, you're the idomainappraisal, a legit authority. Please don't post here anymore. I get it. The name has a value of $9.99 and I don't need your appraisal certificate.

 

[slader23]

The domain itself is easily worth 5 figures IMO.

Brad

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I'd price it inbetween CityCentre.com and LoanCenter.com but honestly, if the OP is stubborn on his valuation he get more.

My RETAIL valuation is $65k+, Also not sure what the other guy was saying--->"no one is searching for dental centre" My GAKP says 9,900/monthly searches with a CPC of $3.18, so its definitely an emd with lots of potential once developed.

 

[baseballworld]

high 4 low 5 figures to an end user enough said. Don't have the skills to hit that Mark I'd hire a broker then.

 

[slader23]

high 4 low 5 figures to an end user enough said. Don't have the skills to hit that Mark I'd hire a broker then.

Take heed to this, experienced members have been consistent with a 5 figure evaluation. Nothing more to be said. I'm very happy for you OP. I hope you can get a great sale for this name

 

[nothere]

thanks @slader23, found a lot of decent sized companies that may want the name. Apparently Americans spend more than $100 billion on yearly dental care.

 

[Bannen]

It's a very good domain, but has both strong points and weak points. If you type 'dentalcenter.com' in its entirety into Google, you'll see that it is indeed a very common pairing... after 20 pages of top-to-bottom search results of dental centers ALL ending in dentalcenter, I stopped looking. You'll see that it is a very common - in fact pretty much the accepted - term.

That being said, it also makes it a bit of a hard sell, because most companies really want a descriptive term in there as well, like Hillside Dental Center or Jimbob's Dental Center or WhiterTeeth Dental Center, etc, to describe either the area or the owners or even just the image they want to portray. Just 'dental center' has no descriptive term.

Also, though they charge a lot of moolah, dental centers also have high costs of equipment, employees, insurance, etc. It's going to take a very large and lucrative one to buy this domain for a hefty price... and as I mentioned, most of them want a more branded approach with a descriptive keyword. Might get a buyer from among the many large dental centers out there, might not. Seems like a domain that would sell better to someone who has an online business rather than a real world tooth business, because it's more generic and it's ideal for a store. Hard to call this one.

But definitely has strong value, just depends who comes knocking with an offer. A large center, or perhaps a chain of them, might like to rebrand to this because it's definitive. I'd look for centers that have at least a handful of satellite clinics within a large city or county, and outbound email them. And I'd email any website that has an electronic dental biz, like selling equipment, machines, supplies, books, etc, a manufacturer or retailer might really like to rebrand to this. Look at any large dental equipment manufacture on Alibaba and email them too.

Wide swing in valuation; reseller price anywhere in the mid x,xxx at least; end user anywhere in the five figures (Hey, do you think if one of the 'big' domainers had this, they wouldn't get at least that much with all their leads/know-how?). A sober price would be low xx,xxx. With the right buyer and the right negotiation, might get that to mid xx,xxx or better.

My valuation is for the domain alone. I know you've done a lot with it, so of course having a lot of content, links, leads, traffic etc will drive that price up considerably, but I'm not going to try figure all that out for you

Good luck, nice domain

 

[Alessandro Couteau]

I like it !

I agree though, this will be a difficult sale if you go down the road !

I would suggest building a directory for your local dentists and then building off that into 2 or 3 states, build up traffic, start charging money for advertising dental care, and then try 10 states, and then 20 states, manage your payroll and you could become a multi million dollar company off this name ! I have no doubt whatsoever ...

Good work ! Get you an SEO and get a mining pick and get to work

 

[nothere]

Sent dozens and dozens of emails to companies that sell "online services' to dentists and a few dental supply makers in China

 

[idomainappraisal]

high xxxx to end user

just search the top 100 cities in USA for dental center those cities

lots of cities have a 'dental center' operating and they're not a franchise, so some doctors created local practices as 'dental center'

so if they're nyc dental center and have nycdentalcenter.com they would pay high xxxx for it

over xxxx I doubt any dentists will part with that much dough, they don't 'need' it

they own the geodentalcenter.com or their namedentalcenter.com or some adjectivedentalcenter.com

so end user is already using somethingdentalcenter.com and that is a very limited market but 5k or 8K should be found pretty easily

minor money but not bad for paying reg fees for a short time and even 20 years is a short time

I'd find the end user now and move onto better names

decent name though just a very limited end user market and I dont' think a speculator will give you even low xxxx for it

mid xxx from a speculator maybe

good luck, decent name though

 

[nothere]

high xxxx to end user

.....

decent name though just a very limited end user market and I dont' think a speculator will give you even low xxxx for it

mid xxx from a speculator maybe

good luck, decent name though

So the end user for you is a dental center? Very limited thinking.

minor money but not bad for paying reg fees for a short time and even 20 years is a short time

I am sure it has already paid the reg fee for the next 10,000 years with minimal work. Of course things have changed in adsense world but

 

[Cdomains]

Very good name, but it will be hard to sell for a good price.

At first glance any experienced domainer would say this is a very good name, and it is.

However, the market for this name could be a tough sell if you want to get a high amount for it.

You will need to have a fair amount of luck and find a dentist / end user who appreciates the value of this name and is willing to part with the big $$.

It is too easy for them to easily add the geo term to the name and be satisfied with that.

You might have better luck trying to sell this name as an e-commerce site that sells dental supplies to dentists.

Looking at it this way you might be able to get the good price this name deserves.

 

[idomainappraisal]

So the end user for you is a dental center? Very limited thinking.


I am sure it has already paid the reg fee for the next 10,000 years with minimal work. Of course things have changed in adsense world but

No one looks for 'dental center' the big gun is 'dentist(s)'

so it has no 'development' potential and it's future home for a dentist already using the phrase most likely with a geo right now

dentist(s) is the gem and any prefix with that keyword is gold to mine in development

that's my opinion as a developer and domain name speculator/investor

it's not 'limited' it's my real life opinion doing this for over 20 years

 

[idomainappraisal]

The niche word is dental not dentist, you don't buy "dentist" coverage you buy dental coverage..

A dental center is where dentists do dental work

Just learn how to use adwords search tools

The money for development is dentist(s) not dental

Very few searches for dental anything and agreed dental insurance is a nice niche, but the only companies selling it are large companies not local professionals and you can expect dental center to pull a niche audience on dental insurance searches

Like I said the only way to make money on this is find a dentist already trading as geo or whatever dental center and let them take it off your hands for mid to high xxxx

Other than that very limited potential end user, there is nothing good about the domain

It's too limited in who can buy it and there is not development potential on it

 

[slader23]

As I expected your only focusing on one facet of a multifaceted name. The word center implies service, information and purchasing. It can be used as an info site, a client facing website for a dental group or a dental insurance affiliate or "center" for an insurance company. You have to look at all the possibilities for a name when you appraise not stick to your literal definition of what something is. Your appraisal is poor because if you were to apply your logic to words like vision then they would be given even lower value because, apparently optometrists would be the only end user and "no one searches" for it. Search volume doesn't matter with names like this before because the value and possible uses are very, very clear, it's not one dimensional . I don't think you should be promoting yourself as a professional appraiser if your not able to understand where value is derived.

 

[nothere]

Cdomains

A dental center is where dentists do dental work

Just learn how to use adwords search tools

The money for development is dentist(s) not dental

Very few searches for dental anything and agreed dental insurance is a nice niche, but the only companies selling it are large companies not local professionals and you can expect dental center to pull a niche audience on dental insurance searches

Like I said the only way to make money on this is find a dentist already trading as geo or whatever dental center and let them take it off your hands for mid to high xxxx

Other than that very limited potential end user, there is nothing good about the domain

It's too limited in who can buy it and there is not development potential on it

So you have 20 years experience. Did you check when this site was registered? I told you it has probably made 10,000 years registration fee (do the math) with less than a week development.

Adwords search tools means jack: most clicks aren't for "dentist" at all but for long keywords.

Now, virtually every dental "practice" is a dental center. You can do a side directory, put dental info articles or WHATEVER, make it a virtual dental center, sell dental products, do dentist websites, insurance and all. Ooops, I mentioned that damn name, dental center. https://www.google.com/search?q="dental+center" take a look...

there is not development potential on it

Change your username. Seriously. This is a .com, in a category where a root canal and a cap can cost as much as $5000 (well, in NYC anyway)

 

[Cdomains]

Just learn how to use adwords search tools

The money for development is dentist(s) not dental

You have to remember it is the dentist who will buy the name and not the people who search for the terms.

While the search terms used to find dental services are relevant, the important thing is if dentists are OK with the term "dental".

If they are then they will be OK with using that term in a name regardless of what search terms are used to find dentists or dental services.

In the end it only matters what the end user thinks about the name as they are the ones who are laying out the $ to buy that name.

 

[idomainappraisal]

As I expected your only focusing on one facet of a multifaceted name. The word center implies service, information and purchasing. .

This name has zero potential for development

Dentist(s) is a development term

Dental Insurance is a development term

Dental Center has no development potential it's a dog for development

Just my opinion and I actually DEVELOP keywords all the time

But you're welcome to your opinion, but you have no insight into what I do or how I do it

I'm not saying I'm a professional appraiser here, you are

Show me one time I made the claim, so your statement is false

 

[idomainappraisal]

Cdomains

Change your username. Seriously. This is a .com on a field where a root canal and a cap can cost as much as $5000 (well, in NYC anyway)

I have dentists as clients, not one uses dental center in their business name, like most professionals they trade

name .com or in the case of dentists nameddm.com

when those dentists have me manage their sem budgets, the term 'dental center' is not bought, since no one looks for it

you buy dentist and specific types of dental work, but dental center is not part of the equation

nothing wrong with my name here I own the .com, in fact it's for sale