域名|Chinese Perspective

[Kassey Lee]

I believe only short and easy-to-remember domain names are sustainable, regardless of where in the world you live and which cultural background you come from.

Now that the Chinese domain market has become a hot topic, I myself want to understand this trend too. Is there any real meaning behind each domain name sold in China? Here, I'd like to share with you what I've found as I read the Chinese news everyday.

GZX.com
GZX can stand for 更自信 (even more self-confident) which can be used in many fields such as education, self-help, and even consumer products to raise your self image.

XLY.com
XLY can stand for 夏令营 (summer camp) or 新领域 (new field) which can be used in recreation and high-tech products.

New: Follow my blog posts on NamePros for updates.

 

[Kassey Lee]

News with Chinese source...

533.com sold for 2.72m CNY in auction. 533 rhymes with 我想想 (I think about it) and can be used for educational games and ability testing. Similar to the sale of 677.com I reported on April 23, this domain name still has a operating site owned by a company founded in 2003 providing study abroad programs. Are they closing the business? Or they are having cashflow problem? Reason for sale is unknown. >>

5191.com sold for 230k CNY in auction. 5191 rhymes with 我要就要 (I want, and I just want) and can be used in many consumer-oriented products or services. The number 1 is increasingly liked by end user companies because it rhymes with 要 (want), 意 (opinion), 艺 (art), and 衣 (clothes). >>

GP.cn and RF.cn sold again, for 1.09m and 750k CNY respectively in April 29 auction. GP.cn has been sold several times, with the most recent one being April 12 for 1.12m. GP has excellent meanings, such as 股票 (stock as in stock market), 挂牌 (listed on stock market), 购票 (buy ticket), 光盘 (optical disc), and 公平 (fair). RF rhymes with 瑞丰 (lucky and abundant), 日丰 (abundant every day), 日付 (daily pay), 热风 (hot wind), and 乳房 (breast) >>

32.cn sold for 1.6m CNY in April 29 auction. 32 rhymes with 相爱(love each other), 三爱 (three loves), and 商爱 (love business). 32.cn was sold in April last year for 1.7m, then resold again in September for over 2m. So, its price has dropped significantly. >>

746.com was sold for over 900k CNY in recent auction. 746 is the dialing code for the Yongzhou city in Hunan province (湖南永州). Already, 746.com.cn is a portal on Yongzhou. >>

Also, today's post: Being Creative in Domain Names >>

 

[London555]

Kassey-re your newsletter "companies thinking outside the box for a .com name" We own a small hedge fund and were looking for a name just in case we enter China but also in case we wanted to sell the name in the future to a financial institution. We came up with eGeGu.com ( "gegu" shares in a public company).

 

[WhoaDomain.com]

what is the Pinyin acronym or abbreviation for Terrible/Awful? and are there any equivalents to these words in Chinese pinyin? I looked up suck or sucks and just pulls up something along the lines of the VERB not the adjective. can you help? looking for those letters that translates to Terrible or awful or bad

Bad?
Terrible?
Awful?
Sucks?

Thanks.

 

[London555]

what is the Pinyin acronym or abbreviation for Terrible/Awful? and are there any equivalents to these words in Chinese pinyin? I looked up suck or sucks and just pulls up something along the lines of the VERB not the adjective. can you help? looking for those letters that translates to Terrible or awful or bad

Bad?
Terrible?
Awful?
Sucks?

Thanks.

kepa or kepa de

 

[WhoaDomain.com]

kepa or kepa de

yea thanks london. I already knew that but how do you turn that into Chinese (western character) pinyin abbreviations?


so like will kepa or can it be turned into KP? tried it. doesn't mean terrible or awful. instead it means. "I am afraid". I'm looking for 2 letters that is understood as translating into the words Terrible or sucks or awful.

tried Kep which "can" work as terrible short for kepa but I'm looking for much short. any ideas?

 

[London555]

yea thanks london. I already knew that but how do you turn that into Chinese (western character) pinyin abbreviations?


so like will kepa or can it be turned into KP? tried it. doesn't mean terrible or awful. instead it means. "I am afraid". I'm looking for 2 letters that is understood as translating into the words Terrible or sucks or awful.

tried Kep which "can" work as terrible short for kepa but I'm looking for much short. any ideas?

You may be looking for something that doesn't exist - one thing ive learned about pinyin is that words can have many meaning so kepadeche.com could mean "terrible car" etc but im just not sure you can reduce it down to what you want at least in the .com names. One idea maybe to look at Kassey's thread re 0-99 meanings and also a-z meanings and then combine them - good luck.

 

[WhoaDomain.com]

true true. it's ok gave on it. as the similar domains I was interested in that were available were deleted and dropped and no one grabbed them.

ever heard of .sucks? I thought about it late last nite. how .sucks basically blackmailed companies to buy their brand name on this extension or else end up not owning Facebook.sucks.

lol they sold these .sucks reserved domains for huge money.

so I thought what if you chose some big company in China and slapped a "Kepa" at the end of their company name? in .com? of course that's obviously a TM problem. but interestingly enough. many company names in china can be reduced to acronym abbreviations.

so.. Chinese Name Pinyin Acronym + Kepa.com? lol

what do you all think?

I doubt most Chinese companies secure trademarks for the pinyin versions of their company names.

plus letters by themselves would be too much to register trademarks for.

plus all these Chinese extension companies always push the idea that Chinese companies better register their brands in their new extensions to protect their brand to eliminate trademark issues.

is this a bad or good idea?

 

[London555]

true true. it's ok gave on it. as the similar domains I was interested in that were available were deleted and dropped and no one grabbed them.

ever heard of .sucks? I thought about it late last nite. how .sucks basically blackmailed companies to buy their brand name on this extension or else end up not owning Facebook.sucks.

lol they sold these .sucks reserved domains for huge money.

so I thought what if you chose some big company in China and slapped a "Kepa" at the end of their company name? in .com? of course that's obviously a TM problem. but interestingly enough. many company names in china can be reduced to acronym abbreviations.

so.. Chinese Name Pinyin Acronym + Kepa.com? lol

what do you all think?

I doubt most Chinese companies secure trademarks for the pinyin versions of their company names.

plus letters by themselves would be too much to register trademarks for.

plus all these Chinese extension companies always push the idea that Chinese companies better register their brands in their new extensions to protect their brand to eliminate trademark issues.

is this a bad or good idea?

Bad idea-their legal dept would simply show a pattern of "shaking down" companies on your part-not that some don't deserve it - lol

 

[WhoaDomain.com]

hahaha. well of course! but letters just by themselves? slap a Kepa at the end? companies most often TM their full company name and maybe the abbreviations. not the Pinyin Acronyms I think? strange be true. I've noticed some pinyin acronyms of big companies that aren't trademarked.

and a domainer registering can say hey these letters can mean anything around the world. if it just so happens to also mean your company name? and you have a problem with it? well then make an offer. simple as that. but you can't take it or sue me on grounds that these letters translates from pinyin to your company name. plus you didn't register these letters as your trademark.

 

[London555]

hahaha. well of course! but letters just by themselves? slap a Kepa at the end? companies most often TM their full company name and maybe the abbreviations. not the Pinyin Acronyms I think? strange be true. I've noticed some pinyin acronyms of big companies that aren't trademarked.

and a domainer registering can say hey these letters can mean anything around the world. if it just so happens to also mean your company name? and you have a problem with it? well then make an offer. simple as that. but you can't take it or sue me on grounds that these letters translates from pinyin to your company name. plus you didn't register these letters as your trademark.

There's a saying we have in the hedge fund business "The market can stay irrational longer than you can stay solvent" I'd say the same applies here but good luck!

 

[WhoaDomain.com]

There's a saying we have in the hedge fund business "The market can stay irrational longer than you can stay solvent" I'd say the same applies here but good luck!

lol thanks! I know it's not a "Great" idea. but that .sucks company sure is making "bank".

update. just out of curiousity. I checked Baidu.Sucks lol it redirects to http://www.saksfifthavenue.com/.

that's funny! they bought Baidu.sucks ! and Tencent.Sucks too! lol crazy! and Weibo.sucks???

The heck is going on here? lol isn't this Trademark problematic? lol

 

[Kassey Lee]

Also-do you happen to know where the name LUAN.com was auctioned?

I did a Baidu search and eName is the only company that reported the sale, so I assume the auction was held by eName.

CHina will still look "next door" and see another big business opportunity in India, because they already know how big business has gotten in China already.

I recently read a Chinese article that said Chinese have acquired very short numbers and letters of many ccTLD so the day will come when citizens of the respective countries realize they don't own their country's best domain names and have to pay high prices to get them back.

 

[TRY]

Hello kassey, just want to say thanks for the info, and thought you'd find the following article interesting http://www.chinacheckup.com/explanations/understanding-chinese-company-names

 

[London555]

Hi Kassey-we just bought hk16.cn your thoughts? Thank you!

 

[Kassey Lee]

just want to say thanks for the info, and thought you'd find the following article interesting

Thanks for the info. I've been using the terms "legal name" and "trading name" to distinguish the two. Trading names are what consumers recognize and remember.

-we just bought hk16.cn your thoughts?

I'd like to know your thoughts instead. How did you decide to acquire this name? How did you determine it has good value? Thanks.

 

[London555]

Thanks for the info. I've been using the terms "legal name" and "trading name" to distinguish the two. Trading names are what consumers recognize and remember.

I'd like to know your thoughts instead. How did you decide to acquire this name? How did you determine it has good value? Thanks.

Ahhh ! Im not sure it does but here's what I think a company in "Hong Kong" or China could use this name because it's short and the "hk" along with a very low number ( 16) is very easy to remember. Exactly what companies in China are now looking for-or at least i think so. Unless im wrong this name can mean "hong kong want to have fun" .

 

[Kassey Lee]

News with Chinese source...

New rich in domaining? A Chinese article named Rick Schwartz, Mike Berkens, Frank Schilling, Mike Mann, Daniel Negari, Castello Brothers, Mike Robertson, and Michael Cyger as the 八大土豪 (the eight big Nouveau riche or new money) in the domain circle. Really? >>

.cn registration ended long upward growth. CNNIC reported total number of registrations as 18,507,125 in March, with about 1% drop over previous month. >>

Well-known legal service provider 华律网 (Hua Lv Wang) activated its Chinese IDN.IDN 华律网.世界 (Hua Lv Wang.world in Chinese) which redirects to the company's corporate site at 66Law.cn. This may illustrate future direction of Chinese IDN.IDN being used only a name for redirecting consumers to main site. >>

Latest stats on new gTLD registrations: .top has 1,999,969, . wang 1,069,881, and 网址(website address) 339,532. All three belong to Top 10 new gTLD. >>

Also, today's post: Useful 6Ns That You May Not Know >>

 

[London555]

News with Chinese source...

New rich in domaining? A Chinese article named Rick Schwartz, Mike Berkens, Frank Schilling, Mike Mann, Daniel Negari, Castello Brothers, Mike Robertson, and Michael Cyger as the 八大土豪 (the eight big Nouveau riche or new money) in the domain circle. Really? >>

.cn registration ended long upward growth. CNNIC reported total number of registrations as 18,507,125 in March, with about 1% drop over previous month. >>

Well-known legal service provider 华律网 (Hua Lv Wang) activated its Chinese IDN.IDN 华律网.世界 (Hua Lv Wang.world in Chinese) which redirects to the company's corporate site at 66Law.cn. This may illustrate future direction of Chinese IDN.IDN being used only a name for redirecting consumers to main site. >>

Latest stats on new gTLD registrations: .top has 1,999,969, . wang 1,069,881, and 网址(website address) 339,532. All three belong to Top 10 new gTLD. >>

Also, today's post: Useful 6Ns That You May Not Know >>

I was surprised to see Michael Cyger on that list ( i had no idea his blog did so well) but im not at all surprised to see the Castello brothers on the list-not only did they sell Whisky.com for $3million -they also have turned down $5 million for PalmSprings.com ( it's a developed site they own) among others in their portfolio.

 

[vola]

How is the .in market in China? Just wondering...

 

[London555]

How is the .in market in China? Just wondering...

Hopefully good lol we own a few pinyin and i80.in but somewhere here Kassey made a comment on .in but also as did another person and a broker recently told me it's catching on as is .ch in China-good luck.