Boycott Icann's New Domain Name Extension Release, Thread

[unholygod]

The end of domaining ?

Biggest Expansion to Internet in Forty Years Approved for Implementation

26 June 2008

Paris, France: The Board of ICANN today approved a recommendation that could see a whole range of new names introduced to the Internet's addressing system.

"The Board today accepted a recommendation from its global stakeholders that it is possible to implement many new names to the Internet, paving the way for an expansion of domain name choice and opportunity" said Dr Paul Twomey, President and CEO of ICANN.

A final version of the implementation plan must be approved by the ICANN Board before the new process is launched. It is intended that the final version will be published in early 2009.

"The potential here is huge. It represents a whole new way for people to express themselves on the Net," said Dr Twomey. "It's a massive increase in the 'real estate' of the Internet."

Presently, users have a limited range of 21 top level domains to choose from — names that we are all familiar with like .com, .org, .info.

This proposal allows applicants for new names to self-select their domain name so that choices are most appropriate for their customers or potentially the most marketable. It is expected that applicants will apply for targeted community strings such as (the existing) .travel for the travel industry and .cat for the Catalan community (as well as generic strings like .brandname or .yournamehere). There are already interested consortiums wanting to establish city-based top level domain, like .nyc (for New York City), .berlin and .paris.

"One of the most exciting prospect before us is that the expanding system is also being planned to support extensions in the languages of the world," said Peter Dengate Thrush, ICANN's Chairman. "This is going to be very important for the future of the Internet in Asia, the Middle East, Eastern Europe and Russia." The present system only supports 37 Roman characters.

Upon approval of the implementation plan, it is planned that applications for new names will be available in the second quarter of 2009.

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[raredn.com]

Go with the flow and spend this time preparing ways to have a leg-up on the competition instead.

Unfortunately if new extensions come out the only people benefiting will be the people selling the extensions IMO, the companies that put up the minimum $100,000 to get a foot in, not you, not I, not a bunch of newbie domainers either. This same sentiment has been expressed by namepros user estibot.com and also by Domain Name tycoon Rick latona on one of his latest blog posts. Rick Latona is even going to be on the serving end of the domain name extensions making a partnership to buy some extensions next year, but Rick Latona expressed that domainers on the buying end will be getting a dud deal. This has also been my sentiment all along, or this boycott thread would not have been started in the first place.

Personally, I think an overwhelming majority that try to release a new novelty domain name extension are going to fall flat on their faces, seriously and when they do, I wouldn't want to be holding any domain names in their extensions either. Trademarked names like .ibm .cnn .msn and city geo domains aside of course, I have little problem with trademarked and geo extensions myself personally. I have a lot of issue with future novelty domains though like: .cool, .fun, .travel .shop .jobs .film .name .trash .biz .dontbeasucker .pro .cars etc

 

[leftfielder]

I have a lot of issue with future novelty domains though like: .cool, .fun, .travel .shop .jobs .film .name .trash .biz .dontbeasucker .pro .cars etc

:lol:

I see what you mean. Where ever there are big profits to be made, implosion is likely. The internet is very young and this in inevitable. If it doesn't happen now, it will happen later. We all want to sell that million dollar domain before the domain name business implodes.

Your quote get me to thinking about how this will effect advertising and consumer loyalty. How will we all fit in Google's top ONE HUNDRED for our keywords? How do I pick the best site for a cell phone out of THOUSANDS? I can hear my mom saying, "What's their website? .cool? wth?" :lol:

On a serious note. thanks for the clarification of your view. People who know nothing about the internet except for checking email have absolutely no clue and ICANN is acting like everyone is a domainer when we're just a fraction of the world's population. How much damage can a fraction do?

 

[raredn.com]

Indeed pseudo_mod, what the average mom, friend, sister, brother can understand is what to aim for when buying domain names IMO

 

[SonnyCooL]

anyone have the static of DOT com VS cctld Park site static/ratio ???
I heard there is a lot value for dot com but most (ratio/percentage) generic/brand/keyword domain in dot com is PARK site compare with cctld (develop)....

 

[DomainMayhem.com]

Boycotting new markets is usually as effective as boycotting entropy. Good luck with that. Both Entropy and Free Market dynamics are based on large numbers. "Boycotts" are already taking place within the market via the individual decisions of those that comprise the market. If a tld fails that is a natural market result.

Personally I love to see competition in the market, regardless of whether it hurts my own market position... that just means you need to adjust your position. I am hoping for some new excellent tld's to change the market. New markets create new opportunities for investment.

Very well said!

 

[estibot.com]

I agree. The more TLD's, the more confusing the namespace will get to the average user, and the more .com will benefit. Search engines don't always help; competition for Google top spots is so fierce, often when I'm searching for some information, all I get on the first SERP is that "compare prices and read reviews" crap. Often I'm tempted to try the .com just in case there is a good directory or other informative page, even PPC ads - they are often right on the money...literally

.com will keep its value, it may even benefit from this, some new TLD's (.nyc) will succeed, most will fail.

 

[jkennedy]

End...no
Impact....yes
Kill .com....I don't think so.
I keep hearing how .com values will fall drastically, but I say there might be a short period when the value decreases a little, but com will always be king and will bounce back. These new changes will hopefully be a big boost to the domain business, and hopefully there will be money to be made all around.

Hang on, it's gonna be a wild ride.

 

[IAmAllanShore]

Poetic, and I'm late to the game, but spot-on :tu:

And yes, much like new.net or web.com promoters lost my business, so will any registrar who attempts another .ws late night MLM scheme that these are destined to become.

-Allan :gl:

It's already that way - And "Domainers" are still the driving force causing newer extensions and fads to keep going around in circles. Face it , it's nothing new in this industry. Most of the news we see that supposedly is proof that "This company supports this extension" is actually not proof at all - It's "This company is trying to protect it's Brand by registering any approved extensions it can". With the latest ICANT news ... The sky is the limit !
There can be a new "Grand Illusion" every week now for people to drool over.

 

[kemjika11]

We already have some crazy threads on NP about this...

I don't think it will affect good+ premium names much, but it will weaken really poor names.

 

[Ronald Regging]

This whole ICANN thing has been exciting. The forums have transformed from a relaxed business setting into one of those end of days, apocalyptic doomsday forums. I'm just waiting for people to start handing out the Kool-aid. (We really need to add a Kool-aid Man smily!).

 

[weblord]

this can be false prophecy for all you know it.

 

[Web Master]

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[Easydoms]

Someone I know at work asked me about icann and who they were after reading an article on the net, he was saying how cool it would be if he could reg his ext if the plans went ahead, which leads to the following!!!

If joe blogs for example wanted create his own ext purely because he wants to set a website up for his own personal use, then mr big fish come along and says to icann, hang on but we want that, who wins?

Joe blogs the innocent party who saw a chance to get something unusual and different or the million pound company who have the best lawyers in the country!!

I do think it will open a can of worms and cause a lot issues for all`concerned.

 

[GoPC]

I think they will simply refer to their current rules regarding the issues. You're right though...it will be interesting to see what trouble some guys with unlimited funds might cause. LOL

TMs are still TMs though and those vested in them have far more to fight for (or loose) than a simple single domain. I think you will see ICANN be more active in policing these and I think you will find more Companies more aggressive in protecting them.

The one thing that surprises me is the policy of "bidding" on the extensions. I suppose, if NBC were outbid for the domain by some other party interested in the ext, at some point it might be reduced to nothing more than a lawsuit over the proper ownership of the mark.

Maybe this WILL get exciting. LOL!

GoPC

 

[Ronald Regging]

The one thing that surprises me is the policy of "bidding" on the extensions. I suppose, if NBC were outbid for the domain by some other party interested in the ext, at some point it might be reduced to nothing more than a lawsuit over the proper ownership of the mark.

Maybe this WILL get exciting. LOL!

GoPC

More than likely the bidding wars will be for premium generic keywords like .realestate or .auto. I can see the possibility of more than one company wanting to maintain those types of extensions and when that occurs, ICANN wants to get paid. Someone made an interesting point though... ICANN may require that for a company to run an extension, the extension must be open to the public to register. The whole reason they are doing this is to open up the name spaces for more Internet users and to probably make even more money from registration fees. While offering closed extensions to companies who want to brand under a specific TM might seem like a neat idea, it offers absolutely nothing to the Internet as a whole if people can't register domains under the extension.

I don't really know what they are planning exactly, but then again, if I know ICANN, I doubt they even know exactly what they're doing yet either.

 

[Sir Regalot]

Is creating new type of domain names worth the effort?

Finken says these new domains may work for well established companies, but for a new company trying to get off the ground, ".com" is the way to go. Other top level domains don't attract a lot of people.

http://www.ksl.com/?nid=148&sid=3727865

 

[GoPC]

I don't really know what they are planning exactly, but then again, if I know ICANN, I doubt they even know exactly what they're doing yet either.

Well said! ROTFLMAO!!!

GoPC

 

[JamesDavid]

How soon till we see an .xxx?

 

[labrocca]

While offering closed extensions to companies who want to brand under a specific TM might seem like a neat idea, it offers absolutely nothing to the Internet as a whole if people can't register domains under the extension.

I agree. I can't see why ICANN would allow walled gardens for extensions. The idea of NBC having their own extension is a novelty idea but doesn't really push ICANN's agenda of opening up new extension USE for the public.

And Joe Blog would have an incredibly hard time running an extension. It's not a small venture. It will cost yearly $xx,xxx MINUMUM in software and hardware costs.

 

[nrmillions]

I agree. I can't see why ICANN would allow walled gardens for extensions.

what about other walled garden extensions such as .edu and .gov and .mil?