Bodis landers VS BIN landers

[davidc1]

Hello,

Is there anyone who made a test using bodis as a lander ?

I now use dan landers and also list my domains on sedo and afternic.
I tested bodis during few hours and see that I have significant revenues using them, so i'm thinking of using them for my landers yearly instead of dan.

Is there somebody who tested them for selling domains, there is only a link at the top of the page, it's ads focused and not sale, but maybe the difference between them and dan landers for making domains sales is not so high.

 

[AEProgram]

Not sure what exactly you people mean when you say that the redirect does not work with ad blocker.
I use Brave browser it has ad block enabled, the redirect was working fine until recent, I did not update the browser, I disabled updates, it is Bodis did something.

With ad block enabled when I visited some of my domains, it would show blank page then redirect to lander page after about 10 seconds, something happened in September that this does not work anymore.
In fact this were my suggestions to Bodis not sure why they removed this great feature, I even suggest them to improve timing so it will work faster, to improve user experience so they not leave.
Would not be surprised if it's Google request to remove this auto redirect.

Now think how can be something that did not updated to suddenly stop working?
Answer is simple Bodis side changed something.

not all adblocking is the same, ublock is what I mostly test against

 

[alcy]

Afaik adblocking popularity varies by country by some reason. Some countries (Greece) do have up to 70%, but average is 40%-50% I think...

As for tier2 ads, G requires exclusivity (sort of), so, at according to my tests, 2tier appears if and only if G does not offer any ads for this domain/visitor combination:
- faillisted domain
- unsupported country for adsense (Cuba, Iran, a few others)
- unsupported country for adult domain (Russia, Peru, Gulf countries...)
- God knows what else

In other threads, at least 2 different members reported that enabling 2tier was necessary for bodis to start forwarding visitors with ublock origin to forsale URL.

ok today I changed all to url forward like u said.. i use dan lander...i had bodis lander b4... and enabled tier2.. have u tested it needs tier2 enabled or this info u got from others?

god only knows how many sales I lost due to this bodis bug over years... but...better late
than never...

p.s. how long is the wait if blocker enabled b4 it goes to dan?

 

[tonyk2000]

have u tested it needs tier2 enabled or this info u got from others?

I always had 2tier enabled, so cannot confirm 100%. But, it makes sense - the same technology involved...

god only knows how many sales I lost due to this bodis bug over years...

Might not be too critical, as what we are discussing is "ublock origin". The most strict and advanced one. Other adblockers are less strict, some do still allow ads on parked domains, and with others (like brave adblock mentioned earlier in this thread) the forwarding was always working (until September in brave case). But, if the sales are more important, or if the domain earns little from ads - I'd stop parking it anyway...

how long is the wait if blocker enabled b4 it goes to dan?

A few seconds. God knows why...

 

[davidc1]

For the moment I have 2 sales through bodis landers and 0 through dan landers

 

[AEProgram]

my master lol !

The problem in this industry, is noone test things hisself and near to everybody think they know results without testing or by following others...

I dont tell bodis is performing better than dan, i need more time to know it.
A few weeks would be enough for as i sell a lot but it could cost me a lot if i lose a lot of sales.

I see that bodis could bring me around 100K per year if I use their landing instead of dan's, but I dont know how much I'll lose. I lso record at the same time sales made by afternic, to see if the part of the split test with bodis landers makes more than 50% of my afternic's sales, if it's the case i could consider the same buyers came on the lander, cannot buy and found another way to buy the domain.

you could earn 100k a year from parking? sure, don't let me interrupt your delusions, I am starting to enjoy your fairy tales.

 

[tonyk2000]

firefox windows, and it seems it's the more common adblocker

OK, just found windows workstation with firefox. Adblock Plus - with default installation - shows ads on parked domains. No issues. However, after I excluded "acceptable ads" and enabled extra protection in settings - bodis did not forward me

How many endusers change default setup of adblock plus? We do not know.

Can bodis do anything? We do not know. It is not a rocket science to detect a parked domain, so it may well be that there is nothing we can do in this case.

As an enduser, I prefer not to see any ads - which is why I'm using advanced solution - ublock origin with custom rules for missed ads.

As a domainer, I want sales So, as as matter of fact, my parking is limited to those domains which earn at least something above pocket money, or those domains which are not for sale either temporary or permanently...

 

[davidc1]

OK, just found windows workstation with firefox. Adblock Plus - with default installation - shows ads on parked domains. No issues. However, after I excluded "acceptable ads" and enabled extra protection in settings - bodis did not forward me

How many endusers change default setup of adblock plus? We do not know.

Can bodis do anything? We do not know. It is not a rocket science to detect a parked domain, so it may well be that there is nothing we can do in this case.

As an enduser, I prefer not to see any ads - which is why I'm using advanced solution - ublock origin with custom rules for missed ads.

As a domainer, I want sales So, as as matter of fact, my parking is limited to those domains which earn at least something above pocket money, or those domains which are not for sale either temporary or permanently...

I have default config and it's the same, no ads, no redirect, only blank screen...

 

[AEProgram]

OK, just found windows workstation with firefox. Adblock Plus - with default installation - shows ads on parked domains. No issues. However, after I excluded "acceptable ads" and enabled extra protection in settings - bodis did not forward me

How may endusers change default setup of adblock plus? We do not know.

Can bodis do anything? We do not know. It is not a rocket science to detect a parked domain, so it may well be that there is nothing we can do to in this case.

As an enduser, I prefer not to see any ads - which is why I'm using advanced solution - ublock origin with custom rules for missed ads.

As a domainer, I want sales So, as as matter of fact, my parking is limited to those domains which earn at least something above pocket money, or those domains which are not for sale either temporary or permanently...

Anyone that thinks that a parked page that shows millions of users a blank white page is better than a lander that loads with information about buying the domain, is a shill for the parking company.

Obviously if your parking makes you a lot of money, you have different decisions to make. However, parking revenue for most domainers is nothing much.

In my opinion Bodis can fix this, they could design the area that shows the link for buying the domain in a way that will not cause ublock to block that area.

Bodis is one of the last few reliable parking companies left, their attitude on this matter is not good.

 

[biggie]

How many endusers change default setup of adblock plus? We do not know.

Hi

perhaps the real question should be:
how many internet users have some type of adblocker?

and out of those,
which adblockers is used the most
and out of those,
which is most effective in blocking parking page ads?
and out of the most effective, how many users have it?

and out of all those people, how many still type domain names in their browser?

just asking....

imo....

 

[AEProgram]

Hi

then that means 57.3% don't use ad blocker.

and again, out of how many of that 42% that do have it, how many use the most effective blocker which prevents ads from showing on parked pages?

or how many of them have ublock and how many have some other product that's less effective?

but if we back up just a foot or so...
then exactly how many internet users are we talking about?

because 57.3% of the population on earth that surf the internet and don't have ad blocking, is a lot of traffic.

imo....

40% of US users use adblockers, that's about 130,000,000 people. ublock is the second most popular adblocker and probably will overtake adblock soon. Regardless, domainers have no business sending millions of potential buyers to a blank white page. One lost sale in most cases will wipe out all that parking revenue for a year.

Bottom line, people should immediately without delay send users to a page that loads for maximum number of people.

 

[davidc1]

It's not so easy to calculate the best ROI with and without parking.

Domains sales dont comes from landers only, afternic+sedo is a large part of sales venue.
I also dont know for the moment if the part of afternic+sedo will be higher if the landing is bodis instead of dan. In that case tha will mean I dont lose the sale as my customer found another way to buy.

We all know that there is a % of chance per domain os selling it at a certain price. Not sure parking bring less money than selling... 1 missed sale will not destroy parking revenues...

10% of chance of selling a domain at $500 in a year with landers+other venue, if landers is 50% of chance of selling domains, that mean 5%of chance of selling a domain at $500 in a year, that mean it's better to put a domain in parking if it brings $25 per year.

Parking could also be a long time investment, as year after year benefits will continue to grow for choosen domain. I mean, i could prefer renewing domains which are making money with parking instead of not renewing them if they are unsold.

 

[davidc1]

bad result for bodis lander, first 10 price requests were for dan landers, none from bodis lander
So i keep a small percent of my domains with bodis landers (domains that bring me the more money with parking), maybe 1% of my portfolio.

 

[biggie]

anyone that suggests domainers should park names at a place that leads millions of potential buyers to a blank lander is either a parking company shill or does not have the ability to think properly.

If you tell me you do 100k a year in parking, I have a right to ask for some names and you have a right to say no.

HI

millions of potential buyers or millions of internet users?
because all of them are not potential buyers.

i have often suggested that those who use ppc and say their earnings are slipping, to rotate to other platforms, when not using a rotator like above.

so, does that make me a shill or i don't have or have lost ability to think properly?

probably best solution for those who are concerned about adblockers, is to send traffic/leads to their own website, instead of using these platforms.

but if folks are making money with ppc,
i'm certainly not going to tell them to switch to landers with no ads.

imo....

 

[AEProgram]

HI

millions of potential buyers or millions of internet users?
because all of them are not potential buyers.

i have often suggested that those who use ppc and say their earnings are slipping, to rotate to other platforms, when not using a rotator like above.

so, does that make me a shill or i don't have or have lost ability to think properly?

probably best solution for those who are concerned about adblockers, is to send traffic/leads to their own website, instead of using these platforms.

but if folks are making money with ppc,
i'm certainly not going to tell them to switch to landers with no ads.

imo....

Most domainers do not make much with ppc to justify showing blank landers. PERIOD. Many threads on here people discussing what they earn from parking, you rarely see any numbers that justify blank landers.

 

[topdom]

I think parking companies should offer javascript free landing pages with ads. Only once clicked JS should become active on the new page/link. This way they can avoid blocked ads. But I think, tracking people's activities also make money, not just clicks, and parking companies don't want to lose that (unshared) power.

 

[AEProgram]

Did you try the Bodis landers with Escrow as a choice? If not, do you think that this might make a difference? Maybe businesses and professionals may more readily recognize Escrow.com as a name, rather than Dan?

Now that dan is with godaddy and it says on all pages, that issue is not relevant anymore.

 

[tonyk2000]

bad result for bodis lander, first 10 price requests were for dan landers, none from bodis lander

You mean you expected to have all requests on DAN, but for some domains directly and for some domains via bodis parking with Dan as forsale URL? What exactly was tested?

 

[tonyk2000]

If their reputation overall still is good, buyers still may be inclined to use them--with caution, of course.

Buyers will be required to provde KYC docs both on them as a natural person, and their company (if any), just to be able to pay. Will all the potential buyers be happy to do this, just to purchase something online, including impulse purchases?
Also: https://www.trustpilot.com/review/escrow.com

 

[LoveCatchyDomains]

Buyers will be required to provde KYC docs both on them as a natural person, and their company (if any), just to be able to pay. Will all the potential buyers be happy to do this, just to purchase something online, including impulse purchases?
Also: https://www.trustpilot.com/review/escrow.com

Wow. After reading those TrustPilot reviews, those Bodis landers going to Dan are looking better and better....

 

[davidc1]

Forget bodis if you want to sell domains...
After a split test i see that i lose too many potential buyers.
I only keep bodis for traffic domains that bring money not all my portfolio.

 

[AEProgram]

If a buyer is genuinely interested in buying a domain and the Lander shows a blank page, they will investigate further or just type the name on GoDaddy or their registrar which most likely will be part of GD or Sedo premium network. Simple.
I dont see any big issue here.
Domainers must be confident and relaxed.

You are describing a buyer that is hung up on one specific name. Many buyers when they have an idea, they go to their browser and start looking for names that might work for it, blank landers will be ignored, they will just keep on trying. Obviously some go to godaddy to search, but many use their browser address bar.

Blank landers should never be acceptable, it is bad business and all the relaxation in the world won't change that.

 

[phaethon]

If I were interested in traffic revenue, my strategy would be the following:

1. choose all the names that you don't think would get you in TM trouble if the ads the parking company placed looked like infringement. Especially, exclude the high value/high price names where many companies might think UDRP might be cheaper than buying the name.

2. Put them on parking (or rotator) for 1-2 months.

1-2 months is not long enough, some names earn revenue within 6 months even within a year.
The basic problem is 99% of domainers are really impatient and don't understand how domain investing works. They blame parking or sales landers. The actual problem is always the lack of quality names. And waiting is the key.

 

[AEProgram]

it seems that there is a redirect to dan landers when an adblocker is running

post the domain that behaves that way

 

[tonyk2000]

it seems that there is a redirect to dan landers when an adblocker is running

Yeah, but if any only if you use custom forsale URL in domain config. Any and all "built-in" forsale destinations, as well as bodis-powered contact form, are not working (no forwarding) with ublock origin...