domain BlackandRich.com

[anglinn]

Hi,

Was doing a search...I was surprised to see this one not taken. I think it would make a great site to showcase "African-Americans" that have made it big. Not just in entertainment and sports, but in business, politics and education. It could also serve as the name for a magazine.

Whatcha think...give me your appraisals.

Thanks,
Antonio

 

[WGS_Thunder]

I don't see much value in it. It's a racist name IMO. I see WHITEANDRICH.COM is available. You might want to grab that one too

 

[anglinn]

What the ?!?!

I don't understand your response...

BlackandRich.com would be no different from any other site or organization that showcases the best of African-American achievement. It could be a site to let young African-American youth know that they can achieve success in fields other than sports and entertainment.

At one time in our country's history, to be "white and rich" was an ASSUMED fact of life. Why? Because other races and gender were not afforded the same opportunities as WASP(white anglo-saxon protestant) males. Even today, there are lingering effects of all types of ISM'S(regardless of the country you live in). BlackandRich.com would be no different from Miss Black America or the Essence Awards that were created to show African-Americans and the world that they too could be beautiful and successful. Showcasing the positive attributes of any one group does not mean you are slighting another group.

So, I don't understand the type of response you made.
Antonio

 

[Play1234]

I don't understand your response...

BlackandRich.com would be no different from any other site or organization that showcases the best of African-American achievement. It could be a site to let young African-American youth know that they can achieve success in fields other than sports and entertainment.

At one time in our country's history, to be "white and rich" was an ASSUMED fact of life. Why? Because other races and gender were not afforded the same opportunities as WASP(white anglo-saxon protestant) males. Even today, there are lingering effects of all types of ISM'S(regardless of the country you live in). BlackandRich.com would be no different from Miss Black America or the Essence Awards that were created to show African-Americans and the world that they too could be beautiful and successful. Showcasing the positive attributes of any one group does not mean you are slighting another group.

So, I don't understand the type of response you made.
Antonio

I see where WGS_Thunder is coming from. I too am uncomfortable with anything which suggests racial profiling.

 

[TheBulldog]

Going to have to jump on the racist bandwagon here. totally inappropriate name.

 

[ManicMe]

Just an observation "black america" and polictical correctness no longer favors the term "black" thats why "afro-american" is now used.

 

[WGS_Thunder]

Just an observation "black america" and polictical correctness no longer favors the term "black" thats why "afro-american" is now used.

Why does there have to be any hyphenated American terms. What's wrong with just being Americans?

 

[ManicMe]

Why does there have to be any hyphenated American terms. What's wrong with just being Americans?

I don't know.. I didn't if make up.. but I definetly see and have thought your point on this many times before

 

[anglinn]

Chiming in again!

I do not understand the thinking of some of the NP memebers that have posted in this thread. Showcasing the best of any one group does not slight any other group. The name BlackandRich.com was not meant to stir the pot of racial unrest within the NP community.

I too agree that it would be nice to think of ourselves as just AMERICANS(which is a national viewpoint--the same would be true for anyone that lives within their own respective country), but that is not the reality. Most minorities see themselves in both racial and national terms. I am an African-American that sees himself as both black(not politically correct) and American. Why? Because the reality of my life is that I must deal with some people that have a dichotomy in the way that they view themselves and others.

Viewing yourself as "different parts of the same whole" is a concept that non-whites have a hard time understanding because it is something that they do NOT have to live. For example, Dan Rather use to have a segment(about 45 seconds long) entitled 'Portrait of A Great American'. There were great African-Americans, Latin-Americans and Native-Americans. The term "White-American" was never used when a white-american was showcased. Why? Because it is and has been a natural assumption that to be white automaticaly makes you an American.

The creation of institutions such as black fraternities, sororities, beauty pageants, television shows, civic organizations, business groups and etc were ORIGINALLY created to celebrate a positive viewpoint of blacks, not to slight other races. Should those organizations that were created in the last century NOW close their doors because of the progress we have made? I don't think so. There is still a need for such things(regardless of your race, gender, sexual orientation, religion or ethnicity). This is a concept that holds true regardless of the country in which you live. I applaud any group that wants to say to themselves OR to the world, "We too can be beautiful, rich, successful and all-around productive citizens of the world.

I ask again, how is BlackandRich.com a racist name?

Antonio

 

[estibot.com]

$12

I agree that the name is insensitive.

 

[anglinn]

$12

I agree that the name is insensitive.

To whom do you think it is being insensitive to? I don't believe most blacks would be offended by it. I've asked my fellow co-workers(all same race) and none of them see it as racist.

Antonio

 

[cassius]

It has a racist connotation in that it presumes that being black and rich is a special, rare or curious combination.

 

[Play1234]

It has a racist connotation in that it presumes that being black and rich is a special, rare or curious combination.

exactly.

 

[estibot.com]

I agree with Cassius - that's exactly the reason.

Also, imagine someone setting up a site called WhiteAndRich.com - first thought would be that it's some kind of Aryan propaganda site. Even that domain name would necessarily have a racist connotation although for somewhat opposite reasons.

 

[anglinn]

You are missing the point!

Since posting this appraisal request, I have asked quite a few of my black friends(I am also black) there opinion on this matter...All of them agree that anyone ASSUMING a racist intention is either ill-informed or just picking a fight for the sake of it.

As I have asked before, who are the people being offended by the title, "Black and Rich". Trust me, I don't believe most blacks find it offensive because it combines two positive terms. The NP members that have responded must not be living in the REAL world.

***Here is a perfect example of how race can affect some peoples view of other people's handling of financial matter. Several years ago I worked at an investment group as a telemarketing rep. I was told by a fellow black guy that I needed to use my nickname(Tony) instead of using my given name(Antonio). Why? Because Antonio sounded too ethnic and it discouraged white males from giving me the financial information I was trying to get from them to pass onto a Senior Broker. He went on to say that in his dealings, successful whites were apprehensive about giving our taking financial advice from minorities because if THEIR advice was so good, why weren't they(minorities as a whole group) in better financial shape. He was correct in his assessment. It is sad, but true. When I started going by Tony, my responses went up dramatically because the people on the other end of the phone assumed I was white.

WhiteandRich.com would be considered racist by most people because it states something that has been a historical 'possibility" because of racism. to say anything else(***andrich.com) is just saying that is possible to be something other than white and be successful.

With your train of thought, BlackPlanet.com would be a racist site. Ask some blacks you know if they believe such a domain name is racist when they first hear it and then get back to me.

Antonio

 

[TheBulldog]

Probably more of a knee jerk liberal thing.....

So you would also be ok with blackandpoor.com?

 

[seven]

Re

It's funny how any time you say the word black it gets the white people all stirred up.

Blackandrich isn't racist.

That's a good name.

BET is black entertainment television

Does that mean that it's special for a black person to be an entertainer?

I bet someone like Sean Combs would pick this up in a second.

Easy to remember, catchy, and would probably be a popular site or mag.

 

[cassius]

Hey, I just wanted to pop back in and make clear that I did not mean to jump on or call out the OP. As I said, the domain name has a racist connotation - but I don't think it is overtly racist or implies racist intent on the part of the person who registered it.

There can be no doubt that if you look at the statistics, African-Americans (taken as a whole) do face more economic challenges than do whites.

When I was in college I worked in restaurants to pay the bills. I worked with many African-Americans who faced very difficult economic prospects. While many of them were clearly intelligent, the education provided by the city schools was miserable and none of them had any immediate hope of attending college. Quite frankly, it saddened me a great deal and made me question the notion that we are anywhere near social equity in today's society. These were all quality individuals who had grown up economically disadvantaged and had never really been shown a vision of how they could lift themselves out of that situation.

IMO, we should never shy away from the facts for the sake of political correctness. And the sad fact is that African-Americans are disproportionately poor. I hope that some day this isn't the case. But unfortunately, it is today.

That said, there are many, many African-Americans who are doing very well financially and professionally. And there is nothing exceptionally rare or curious about it. So the problem with the name is again its connotation of what it means to be 'black and rich'.

Best regards,
Cassius

 

[seven]

Hey, I just wanted to pop back in and make clear that I did not mean to jump on or call out the OP. As I said, the domain name has a racist connotation - but I don't think it is overtly racist or implies racist intent on the part of the person who registered it.

There can be no doubt that if you look at the statistics, African-Americans (taken as a whole) do face more economic challenges than do whites.

When I was in college I worked in restaurants to pay the bills. I worked with many African-Americans who faced very difficult economic prospects. While many of them were clearly intelligent, the education provided by the city schools was miserable and none of them had any immediate hope of attending college. Quite frankly, it saddened me a great deal and made me question the notion that we are anywhere near social equity in today's society. These were all quality individuals who had grown up economically disadvantaged and had never really been shown a vision of how they could lift themselves out of that situation.

IMO, we should never shy away from the facts for the sake of political correctness. And the sad fact is that African-Americans are disproportionately poor. I hope that some day this isn't the case. But unfortunately, it is today.

That said, there are many, many African-Americans who are doing very well financially and professionally. And there is nothing exceptionally rare or curious about it. So the problem with the name is again its connotation of what it means to be 'black and rich'.

Best regards,
Cassius

It's not a racist connotation whatsoever. It just has race in it, so you think it might be racist and I don't think you know what to say after that.

You're thinking too much.

It's a good domain name with potential, don't read so much into it.

 

[anglinn]

Probably more of a knee jerk liberal thing.....

So you would also be ok with blackandpoor.com?

Showbiz2,

It is NOT a knee jerk liberal thing...It is a fact of life.

If the playing field of life was level then I would see your point, but it is not. Is life fair, NO. Do we ALL have negative situations we must deal with as we go through our lives, YES. But that is not what I am talking about!

Anyone that belongs to a minority group has a little EXTRA to deal with "above and beyond" what the dominant group must deal with. For example, can a white-man, knowing the private conversations that are had between other whites in his presence deny that there are still people that still have negative views about other races and gender. Do you believe those people that express racist views(outside the presence of the people they are talking about) make their life decisions based solely on the character of individuals? I don't think so. So, lets be real. I am talking about those things most people don't talk about OUT loud, only in private.

BlackandRich.com is in no way a racist name. For those who keep responding, keep this in mind:

I am a fellow domainer that saw a domain name that I thought was catchy, easy to remember AND had a positive message, "You can be Black and Rich". Nothing more! As I stated before, it could be the name of a magazine or website that showcases the best of African-American success. Not just entertainers and sports figures, but people in business, politics and education. How is that racist in intent?

Antonio

Antonio