Beware: Thenamepros.com, name-business.com, certifieddomainvalue.com

[siga]

Update: NamePros now has possession of TheNamePros.com domain name and redirected it to the main site.

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TheNamePros.com : Jeremy Hammond

Appraisal scam. Do not trust

see http://www.namepros.com/639974-another-scam-letter-elite-investment-group-4.html

Posting this here untill his new email address/ site gets picked up by google

Scammer with a domain set up a few days ago.

[email protected]

 

[oveber]

Dealing with scammer. Just 4 fun

Got an mail from an scammer yesterday. Have some time so i answer him:

From:
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Sunday, May 01, 2011 9:13 AM
Subject: re: xxxxxxxxxxx.com
Hello,
We are interested in your domain name for sale.
Please email us your desired price in USD or euros for the domain
name in the subject line.
If you have other names for sale please email us yiur full list with
prices for consideration.
Looking forward to doing business with you.
Regards,
Thomas Lieberman
President
Web Hosting & Domains LLC

Answer:
From: [email protected]>
To:
Sent: Sunday, May 01, 2011 11:25 AM
Subject: Re: xxxxxxxx.com
Price is $50000

xxxx

>>> From: "Thomas Lieberman"
To: [email protected]>
Sent: Sunday, May 01, 2011 9:33 AM
Subject: Re: xxxxxxxxxxxx.com

Dear xxxxxxxxxx,

I'm thinking about 46,000 - 48,000 USD for your domain. What do you
think about this price range?

Have you had your domain names evaluated in the past? I mean domain
appraisals. Without valuation we cannot be sure in the sale price. It's
very important for me in terms of reselling too. But we must engage a
valuation company with REAL manual service. So I will only accept
valuations from independent sources I and my partners trust.

To avoid mistakes I asked domain experts about reputable appraisal
companies. Please check this blog with suggestions from other sellers
and buyers:
thenamepros .com/ Archive/21804632.htm

Do you sell domain with a web site or just the name?

Domain without content is ok with me. Web site is not necessary.

If, for example, the valuation comes higher you can adjust your asking
price accordingly. It will be fair. I also hope you can give me 12% -
15% discount.

After you send me the valuation via email (usually it takes 1-2 days to
obtain it) we'll continue our negotiations.

What is your preferred payment method: Escrow.com, International wire
transfer, PayPal.com or something else?

Hope we can come to an agreement fast.

Looking forward to your reply.

Answer:
Price is $50000
Apresial is on you if you want ,take as many you need. Dont mail me
back for appraisal. Only for buying.

xxxxxx

>> It's a big risk to proceed without professional valuation. I already
spoke
to industry experts and they prohibited me to do business without
valuation..

Without manual valuation nobody will buy. You'll sit on your domain for
years in this case, paying renewal fees to your registrar. Just think
about
it. So sooner or later, you'll have to obtain an appraisal. Why waste
time
now?

As a seller, you can use a valuation certificate to sell names to other
buyers. I cannot do the same because I don't keep control over your
domain.

I'm still interested in your domain. Hope you'll change your position. I
simply don't want to take additional risks.

Thank you for understanding. I'm looking forward to doing business with
you.

Answer:
Then you can make your appraisel at namepros.com, not thenamepros.com. I`m
sure you dont have problems with that?
xxxxxx

As a seller you should provide me with an appraisal first. This is a
reasonable practice.

I've found not all the appraisals are accurate. So I accept real manual
appraisals from trusted sources only.

I don't trust $14-$20 services. Nobody will do a research for $14. We need a
real manual service.


As to the most known brands: the more orders the company gets, the less time
they can afford to spend on each appraisal.

I wanted to use AccurateDomains.com but looks like this company has a bad
reputation. I also read some bad review about Afternic's appraisal service.

I was told about manual research service fro mDomain Mart.com]. It
costs - $200/hour.

Many experienced sellers suggested usCertified DomainValue .comas
a trustworth manual service. They charge about 50 eur name not per hour.
We've read only positive comments about them. And I have my own positive
experience with this company and their support.

Answer????

Anyone have some ideas to answer him today?

 

[TroyS]

I just received one from fresh domains on sedo and afternic. I just reported it as spam to GoDaddy. Hopefully they will take action.

Offending email domain: name-investors.com