About what to expect on average money wise per year with a premium .com portfolio?

[buyresaledomains]

About what to expect on average money wise per year with a premium .com portfolio?

Hello. Just getting into this arena of domaining. I have many I have found available but haven't pulled the triger to buy most yet. I'm pretty comited as is though. Lets say I continue down this road and over the next year or two I aquire a couple hundred premium .com domains. Given I put in the time to sell them correctly what is a realistic expectation of return on my investments? I have a full time job and a few part so I will be in no rush to sell them and I will not depend on their income for food on my table. Just some additional money would be nice.

Thanks for your experience.

 

[Kate]

About what to expect on average money wise per year with a premium .com portfolio?

Between $0 and $20,000,000 probably Impossible to answer that question. But suffice it to say the majority of domainers are losing money, yet some have been in the 'trade' for years and aren't newbies any longer. I hope that answers the question in a way.

I have many I have found available but haven't pulled the triger to buy most yet.

Are we talking about unregistered domains ? Then ask yourself why they are still available in 2013. They can be had for $10 right now, so why would they sell easily for $1000 or even $100 ?

I aquire a couple hundred premium .com domains. Given I put in the time to sell them correctly what is a realistic expectation of return on my investments?

I'm not sure you're on the right track. It's very typical for newcomers to register hundreds of domains that turn out to be worthless, and that will blow a hole in your wallet. Quality > quantity.
Also think about the registration and renewal fees. You'd better own one quality domain rather than 100 mediocre domains.

What do you mean by 'sell them correctly' ?
The only way to sell domains correctly (imo) is to have domains that somebody else would want :talk:
In fact, you know you have good domains when it is the end users that come to you.
Domains that nobody wants will rest on your hands.Not every domain has the potential to sell.
Do research, and resist the urge

 

[Name Trader]

Premium Domains are usually 1 word dictionary .coms. How many of them do you have? As sdsinc implies, you cannot hand reg Premium Domains anymore, and they go for a pretty penny should any actually drop. You need a business plan. Not just a touchy feely idea.

As a rule of thumb, you are lucky to turnover more than 1% of your portfolio every year. But as sdsinc again implies, this is an impossible question to answer specifically. Much of it will depend on your skills as a Domainer.

 

[alien51]

Almost every genuine premium domains, are already taken these days.

And people these days who own genuine premium domains, know they ARE genuine premium domains, so it will cost you an arm and a leg to acquire those.

And in case you paid an arm and a leg to acquire those genuine premium domains, you will now be forced to resell them for the price of an arm and a leg and a couple more of your body parts, so you can profit out of it.

Which means, there's probably very few people out there who are willing to sacrifice their life to buy your genuine premium domains.

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So most likely, you will have to settle on acquiring Pseudo-Premium domains (most likely in the Aftermarket)... give or take in the range of 1-2K US Dollars each. Then you have to resell them for like 3k US Dollars each (which is a tough goal) to earn a decent profit.

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If you are looking at Dropped domains, then these are Hypothetical/Imaginary Premium domains. It could take you years or decades to resell those, unless you quit your day job and go full time on how to convince naive "End-Users" that your Hypothetical/Imaginary Premium domains, are BRANDABLE domains they can use for their business.

 

[Trader]

First say me how much premium there, also say me what is premium for you,give an examle? woohoo where are you, others are where??

 

[buyresaledomains]

Thanks guys. Yeah I would say they are pseudo premium names. 1-2k range.

 

[Friend42]

Are you love to daisys?

 

[buyresaledomains]

Are you love to daisys?

Nor am I in love with daisys. It's just what my site looks like so I thought fitting.

 

[biggie]

Thanks guys. Yeah I would say they are pseudo premium names. 1-2k range.

:talk:


"pseudo premium"

what the hell is that?


i've heard of premium, triple premium, double premium and anit-premium and premium unleaded




can you post some examples in appraisal thread?


cuz even if your names would qualify as premium by everybody's standard, there's no guarantee they would earn anything, let alone an amount someone could tell you.


as it's up to each respective domain owner to monetize their own names and some owners may have more knowledge in conversion tactics for their names then a counterpart who doesn't.

in the voice of yoda....all equal not are we

 

[buyresaledomains]

:talk:


"pseudo premium"

what the hell is that?


i've heard of premium, triple premium, double premium and anit-premium and premium unleaded




can you post some examples in appraisal thread?


cuz even if your names would qualify as premium by everybody's standard, there's no guarantee they would earn anything, let alone an amount someone could tell you.


as it's up to each respective domain owner to monetize their own names and some owners may have more knowledge in conversion tactics for their names then a counterpart who doesn't.

in the voice of yoda....all equal not are we

I currently only have 15 domains lol. But I have 150 quality ones I have found available that I just need to talk myself into buying. None are hfjf.com. Nor will I ever. They are all keyword ones. And all .coms. Here is one I have registered that is a good example. "familyhomedaycare.com"

Seo and web design I am guru at. Domains just learning.

 

[Kate]

Selling undeveloped domains is not the same as selling websites.

Any domain can be developed. Then you sell a website that is SEOed and with revenue, not just a domain.
It's two different things.

If you are looking to sell undeveloped domains, they'd better be good.
Quality domains are found on the aftermarket. Domains they are still available most likely don't have a lot of resale potential, after all anybody can pick them for $10.

 

[buyresaledomains]

Yeah if they can find them. That's the keyword there. Takes a creative mind and a obsessive thumb. Not to many posses both.

 

[Name Trader]

I just looked at your website. There is nothing "Premium" about your domains (I'm sorry to say). You should have no expectations to sell any of them anytime soon, if ever. I drop better domains than them. I think you better re-think your strategy. Because a web developer isn't going to want those names either.

 

[biggie]

I currently only have 15 domains lol. But I have 150 quality ones I have found available that I just need to talk myself into buying. None are hfjf.com. Nor will I ever. They are all keyword ones. And all .coms. Here is one I have registered that is a good example. "familyhomedaycare.com"

Seo and web design I am guru at. Domains just learning.

:talk:

sorry, that's not a keyword domain.

you can't just stick other words in front or behind a term all willy nilly like that and call it pseudo premium.

I just looked at your website. There is nothing "Premium" about your domains (I'm sorry to say). You should have no expectations to sell any of them anytime soon, if ever. I drop better domains than them. I think you better re-think your strategy. Because a web developer isn't going to want those names either.

:talk:


i looked too and have to agree with "stub"

 

[alien51]

So everything has been downgraded to Imaginary Premiums now, i suppose.

 

[buyresaledomains]

Thank you for being blunt. But don't be too harsh. It's literally my first day. I built that site 3 days ago. And bought my first 14 domains 5 days ago. No need to crush my dream before I've had it. My goal is to have premium names. So that's my aim. If my aim was to have rubbish I would call it such.

And I am lowering those prices. My biz plan is not to sell to the likes of you guys. But to sell for $299 to peps that like the name for their biz. And FYI there are plenty of web designers that would like those names. There are only about a million web guys that do tutorial sites and growing by a thousand a day.

 

[GiftedDomains]

No need to crush my dream before I've had it.

These guys are not crushing your dreams.
They are trying to protect you from a nightmare.
Its not too late. You don't have many names.

My suggestion: stop registering names immediately.
Read, read, read, in forums and domain blogs, learn which type of domains can be sold (both to resellers and endusers) before losing more of your hard earned money.

 

[buyresaledomains]

I hear ya. I'll stop being sensitive. Reading is what I'm good at. I'll keep it up. But to be honest all I have seen being sold around here is 4 letter poop. Why scgk.com would ever be better than thesenuts.com is beyond me. Maybe 15 years ago. But not anymore. 2012 and beyond it's all about keyword keyword keyword. At least in my book. Those serious about placing on top of google know they need to let go of vanity domains like ricksbest.com and opt for the longer LAchocolatetreats.com.

 

[buyresaledomains]

For 6+ I my web design name was visibilityinherit.com. Cool in principal but google didn't think so. Try as I might I could not crack googles top 10 on anyone of my 500 tuts. I finally broke down and switched the domain to the one below and in 2 months I more than doubled my unique visitors to 40,000 monthly. All because of a better domain. The content remained exactly the same word for word. That was enough for me. I learned my lesson.

 

[alien51]

My goal is to have premium names. So that's my aim. If my aim was to have rubbish I would call it such.

Premium names these days, are like endangered species. You have MANY competition. Chinese domainers alone number by the billions. Your chance of getting a premium domain for reg fee, is like getting hit by a meteorite from space.

And your chance of having someone PAY YOU PREMIUM price, on an Imaginary Premium domain you own, is a total lottery chance.

Those domain sales you see, many of them are lottery sales. A lot of domainers get fed up with their lottery fate, so they try to bombard everyone with solicitation letters to flush out potential buyers. You may end up trying that route in the future, i could sense.

And I am lowering those prices.

That's a good start.

But some Imaginary Premiums, are really so bad, nobody would pay $10 dollars for them. Seriously.

You can check it out yourself. Come back after a year, and see how many of them you got sold at your asking price.

My biz plan is not to sell to the likes of you guys.

Actually, domainers as buyers, are really cheapskates. If they will resell your stuff, they would have to buy it from you as cheap as possible.

So meaning, no domainer sells to another domainer at "premium" prices. Unless it is really something gold. It's way too late for any newbie to get their hands on those type of seriously premium domains now. It will probably cost you your life to get involved in those. Way too late already. They are probably controlled by the mafia now, so forget about those.

But to sell for $299 to peps that like the name for their biz. And FYI there are plenty of web designers that would like those names. There are only about a million web guys that do tutorial sites and growing by a thousand a day.

That's true. There is indeed a solid market around the $299 price range.

Unfortunately, you are targetting web designers. These guys know their stuff around domains. They won't pay you $299 for domains like that. A lot of web designers are moonlighting as domainers. So they think like domainers as well.