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I discovered that Namebio has set up the strictest access restrictions, solely to encourage people to purchase their website subscriptions. For instance, Cloudflare verification is difficult to pass, and VPN access is not allowed. I hope they can unblock my VPN IP visit, but they refuse to do so. They insist that I must purchase a membership. Isn't that the case?

I paid for two years fees to namebio.com, but the reason I'm not paying now is because I feel like I'm paying to remove VPN restrictions. I have submitted a fixed IP, but there is no restriction lifted; it only requires purchasing a membership. Without this access restriction, I would actually be more willing to pay.
 
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I'm unhappy with the free service, and I demand a full refund.
Actually, I have already mentioned that the network I am using is not a VPN, but Namebio still identifies it as a VPN, and a large number of users have been mistakenly banned, requiring them to purchase paid membership. They say that they must pay to purchase membership. I have already paid more than $100 before, and now I don't want to pay so much just because of being banned for using a VPN
 
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I swear by the Almighty’s flaming beard, by the seven trumpets of Revelation, by a Mount Everest of fire-and-brimstone Bibles stacked to the heavens, and upon the very sandals of the saints: I dare not blaspheme before the Lord of Hosts, “O Great I AM, Thou didst not decree these cruel access restrictions solely to multiply subscriptions, fatten NameBio’s coffers, and tempt mortals into monthly tithing for Thy divine wisdom!” Nay! May my life be smitten with holy lightning and cast into the outer darkness if such heresy ever escapes these lips, for the paywall is sacred, the limits are just, and the subscription tiers are the very hand of Providence! Amen, awomen, and aServerError429. 🔥📜🙏

Happy now, weirdo?
you say: not solely to fatten NameBio’s coffers. Of course, I know this is not the only reason. But this is one of the reasons

and you are making a verbal attack, You are a hypocritical person. It is right for PayPal to suspend your company's account and not to cooperate with you, You are such a mercenary businessman.

Because you incorrectly judged that the network I was using was a VPN, a problem I had already informed you about. I had previously purchased a 2-year membership from you, so I will not pay you again
 
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Leave Michael alone.
 
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I have a paid membership, because the service is well worth it.

It's one of the rare domain services that I am actually willing to pay for.

However, even outside that NameBio still works fine with my VPN if I am not logged in.

I think the amount of free data that NameBio provides is commendable.

It's not like they are under any obligation to provide free access.

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Leave Michael alone.
I didn't pester him, nor did I ask him for anything or a free membership. I just expressed my opinion for everyone to know

I'm just saying that they made a lot of incorrect judgments by identifying many users' networks as VPN, which increased their subscription membership. He just mentioned that this is one of the reasons. The other reasons are what he said
 
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That's it for this question. No further discussion
 
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I'm unhappy with the free service, and I demand a full refund.
Because my network was mistakenly identified as a VPN by Namebio, I paid for its use for 2 years, spending over $100. I am no longer paying. If you can't speak properly, then please shut up
 
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Or a coupon for a free year on NameBio.
Because my network was mistakenly identified as a VPN by Namebio, I paid for its use for 2 years, spending over $100. I am no longer paying. If you can't speak properly, then please shut up
 
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Ah, someone trying to protect their service from technical attacks made a mistake. And this is how you behave?

How fortunate you are to have never made a mistake in your life. Obviously, the namebio service is not a good fit for your particular use case.
 
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expect punishment then
Michael just said: It's not the only reason to fatten NameBio’s coffers. Of course, I know this is not the only reason. But this is one of the reasons
 
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Everytime you have to prove you're not a robot. That's bad.
 
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you say: not solely to fatten NameBio’s coffers. Of course, I know this is not the only reason. But this is one of the reasons

and you are making a verbal attack, You are such a mercenary businessman.

Because you incorrectly judged that the network I was using was a VPN, a problem I had already informed you about. I had previously purchased a 2-year membership from you, so I will not pay you again
That was a joke message written by AI to make fun of how you kept insisting that I should swear to God that getting more subscriptions was not the reason for blocking VPNs. Like the Bible, it wasn't meant to be taken literally. For you to try to extract any serious meaning or admissions from that sarcastic message is crazy.

As I said many times now, we are not blocking VPNs, we are blocking HOSTING COMPANIES. Yes, many VPNs use those hosting companies, and thus get blocked as well.

Some regular ISPs also use these hosting companies for infrastructure, and sometimes it blocks those too, but this is very rare. When that happens, usually they have carved out a clear block if IPs that are under their own name, and we can whitelist those blocks. Yours was not like that.

Nobody EVER said you were using a VPN, not a single time. What I said to you was literally this:

"That IP address is owned by Tencent Cloud Computing, which is a hosting company that we blocked due to abuse. I can't whitelist a server IP unfortunately."

Even the message on the ban page does not say you ARE using a VPN, it says IF. Here is the exact message:

"Your IP address is owned by a hosting company or data center that we block. If you are using a VPN please turn it off and try again in a few minutes. Some browsers such as Opera and Puffin, and some antivirus programs, act as a proxy and it is the same as using a VPN. This is a permanent ban subject to review."

And then also says this in a notification:

"Note: Paying members are allowed to access the site through a VPN."

Show me where ANYONE said you were using a VPN. Go ahead... I'll wait. Your IP address is owned by one of the largest cloud hosting companies in China and I'm not going to whitelist it. If your IP shows as Tencent because of a VPN, you can turn it off.

If it's because of your ISP, that sucks for you. You can complain to them and ask them to work with Tencent to register a "sub-assignment" or "customer assignment" to their blocks of IP addresses within Tencent's allocation, to properly identify the ISP as controlling those IP blocks. Then I could whitelist that ISP, even though it is within a large allocation of IP addresses that we otherwise block due to abuse. Otherwise my hands are tied.

So to recap:

1. We do not directly and intentionally block VPNs. We block hosting companies, which indirectly blocks a lot of (but not all) VPNs. Which I'm ok with, because if free users are also anonymous it is harder to enforce our ToS.

2. We do this 100% as an anti-bot measure, not to force or encourage paid subscriptions. Paid subscriptions are simply a way around it, because it would be inappropriate to block someone who is paying for a service based only on their IP neighborhood. If you insist on believing otherwise, even in the face of my candid responses, then nothing is going to change your mind and I don't really care to be honest.

3. Nobody said you were using a VPN. I said your IP is owned by a hosting company that we block, and due to how the IP is registered with the RIR, I'm not able to unblock it, since I can't distinguish it from the rest of Tencent's cloud infrastructure for hosting servers.

That is all. Take from that what you will, that seems to be your habit anyway.
 
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That was a joke message written by AI to make fun of how you kept insisting that I should swear to God that getting more subscriptions was not the reason for blocking VPNs. Like the Bible, it wasn't meant to be taken literally. For you to try to extract any serious meaning or admissions from that sarcastic message is crazy.

As I said many times now, we are not blocking VPNs, we are blocking HOSTING COMPANIES. Yes, many VPNs use those hosting companies, and thus get blocked as well.

Some regular ISPs also use these hosting companies for infrastructure, and sometimes it blocks those too, but this is very rare. When that happens, usually they have carved out a clear block if IPs that are under their own name, and we can whitelist those blocks. Yours was not like that.

Nobody EVER said you were using a VPN, not a single time. What I said to you was literally this:

"That IP address is owned by Tencent Cloud Computing, which is a hosting company that we blocked due to abuse. I can't whitelist a server IP unfortunately."

Even the message on the ban page does not say you ARE using a VPN, it says IF. Here is the exact message:

"Your IP address is owned by a hosting company or data center that we block. If you are using a VPN please turn it off and try again in a few minutes. Some browsers such as Opera and Puffin, and some antivirus programs, act as a proxy and it is the same as using a VPN. This is a permanent ban subject to review."

And then also says this in a notification:

"Note: Paying members are allowed to access the site through a VPN."

Show me where ANYONE said you were using a VPN. Go ahead... I'll wait. Your IP address is owned by one of the largest cloud hosting companies in China and I'm not going to whitelist it. If your IP shows as Tencent because of a VPN, you can turn it off.

If it's because of your ISP, that sucks for you. You can complain to them and ask them to work with Tencent to register a "sub-assignment" or "customer assignment" to their blocks of IP addresses within Tencent's allocation, to properly identify the ISP as controlling those IP blocks. Then I could whitelist that ISP, even though it is within a large allocation of IP addresses that we otherwise block due to abuse. Otherwise my hands are tied.

So to recap:

1. We do not directly and intentionally block VPNs. We block hosting companies, which indirectly blocks a lot of (but not all) VPNs. Which I'm ok with, because if free users are also anonymous it is harder to enforce our ToS.

2. We do this 100% as an anti-bot measure, not to force or encourage paid subscriptions. Paid subscriptions are simply a way around it, because it would be inappropriate to block someone who is paying for a service based only on their IP neighborhood. If you insist on believing otherwise, even in the face of my candid responses, then nothing is going to change your mind and I don't really care to be honest.

3. Nobody said you were using a VPN. I said your IP is owned by a hosting company that we block, and due to how the IP is registered with the RIR, I'm not able to unblock it, since I can't distinguish it from the rest of Tencent's cloud infrastructure for hosting servers.

That is all. Take from that what you will, that seems to be your habit anyway.
You admitted it, yet you actually shifted the blame to AI. Why isn't namepros like your website? Aren't you trying to get more people to purchase your membership. You are a hypocritical person. PayPal has banned your account and stopped cooperating with your company. Isn't it because of your hypocrisy and greed

You admitted: Setting strict access restrictions is one of the reasons for increasing company's revenue, as you can sell more memberships, which you can purchase, if you find it inconvenient to use, you can purchase a membership; if you can't stand it and don't want to purchase a membership, then don't use website. Why doesn't namepros have this problem? I've visited over 1000 websites and none of them have this issue.
 
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