discuss 5G IS NOT LIKE 4G!

[artstar]

Ok you 5G naysayers u have to research the topic b4 u tear down a niche like 5G!

I see alot of domainers on here saying 5G will never take off.

Well let me say that 5G is THE BIGGEST leap in technology to come in 25 years and it will be in EVERY facet of our lives in time.

It is going to be used in almost every industry on the planet from automakers to hotels, so stop the bad mouthing and get on board!

Mind u I dont really mind the negativity as it means more domains for those who see the potential.

 

[ecalc]

... 5G is THE BIGGEST leap in technology to come in 25 years ...

Telecom network progress is impressive but before you hand out the Nobel prize take another look at genomics and particle physics -- they haven’t been dragging their feet. Regarding 5g domain investing, NP’s showcase thread is a stark reminder that the horse left the barn when Roger Clemens was still throwing cheese -- 5g 1997, 5gwireless 2001, 5gtechnology 2003, 5gtech 2004, 5gnetwork 2006, 5gphones 2006. Phone makers today are appending 5g on branded phone model names, beyond that no naming trend is evident of serious businesses adopting time sensitive sequential numbers. By 2021 5g will be a redundant label and a new wave of domainers will declare that 6g will be HUGE even though the handful of good 6g names are long gone today. Good luck!

 

[Henry Y]

I think investing in the domain niches that can be benefited from 5G is better than investing in 5G domains.

 

[NYJimbo]

Yeah, think about all the money we each made on 4G domains.

I'm done here.....

 

[Paul]

I see alot of domainers on here saying 5G will never take off.

Take off in what way?

• From a marketing standpoint, it's going to be big simply because carriers are investing so much money in it. They're going to tout it as the greatest thing since sliced bread so they can make a return on their investment. With that much money going into marketing, it will probably sell.
• From a technological standpoint, it's kinda nifty. It's nothing revolutionary--there aren't any major technological advancements in it there aren't already available via other specifications--but it's nice to see these technologies adopted in a universal cell standard.
• From a utilitarian standpoint, it's useless for most current applications of cell technology. It's far too high frequency to travel any significant range, and it really can't penetrate solid objects. The higher-frequency, higher-speed version of it is particularly susceptible to these issues. You can get about 40x the range and similar speeds with < $100 Wi-Fi-based stations that rural ISPs are already using. In all but the most optimal conditions, it won't be any faster than 4G.
• It has the potential to increase the availability of high-speed internet in vehicles, especially in the context of public transportation. This opens a lot of doors, especially in densely populated areas, but it's not viable for most fleet tracking due to lack of range and coverage.
• It doesn't really offer much for embedded applications. Neither did 4G, which is why mass-deployed embedded devices typically only use 2G/3G. Speed isn't relevant in that context--range and power usage are much more important.
• It's useful for quick, cheap deployment of internet to houses. In this scenario, your devices won't connect to it directly: instead, you'll have a modem and a home Wi-Fi network, same as before. The advantage is that it obviates the need to have the "cable guy" come to your house, drill holes in walls, and run a bunch of wires; instead, the ISP can just ship you a router that you plug in somewhere along the wall of your house closest to the street. For many ISPs, this is the main selling point and the primary reason they're investing in 5G.
• Initially, we're probably going to see phones that support 5G as a result of marketing hype. There's little practical reason for a phone to support 5G; from such a device, it's going to be roughly the same as 4G, but shorter-range. 5G wasn't really designed for portable devices.

Personally, I hope to see 5G replace open Wi-Fi hotspots. In that context, it's more secure, less prone to privacy issues, prevents implementation of annoying gateway portals that require personal information, and obviates the need for manual selection of and connection to individual networks. This is somewhat unlikely, though--providers could already do this with 4G (or 3G, or 2G), but they don't because it's more expensive, less convenient, and less informative in terms of marketing metrics like browsing history.

To give you a very rough idea of the impact of 5G's most glaring issue, you can picture different wireless internet technologies on a sort of spectrum:

• 3G travels pretty far, but it's also slow. It's also reasonably good at bouncing around and through solid objects.
• 4G is faster than 3G, but it's not so great when it comes to range. The speed differences between 3G and 4G are most apparent when you're close to a cell tower and have a mostly-clear line-of-sight. Once you get farther away, 3G is more reliable and will continue to work where 4G doesn't.
• 2.4 GHz Wi-Fi can be faster and more stable than 4G, but it doesn't travel far at all, especially with portable devices. Although it's possible to get 2.4 GHz Wi-Fi working over long ranges with stationary, perfectly-tuned devices, typically it's only going to work within a small enclosed area, like an apartment or small house. If you're in an older building with solid walls, you might not even be able to achieve that much.
• 5G FR1 is moderately fast. It can travel farther and penetrate solid objects better than 5 GHz Wi-Fi. Like 2.4 GHz Wi-Fi, the range can vary pretty widely, but you shouldn't expect it to go beyond a few hundred meters in most situations. It's enough to get from the street to the inside of your house in most cases, but a single station isn't going to cover a whole block. It's also the slower of the two forms of 5G, at least in theory.
• 5G FR2 is very short range. While it has the potential to travel farther than 5 GHz Wi-Fi with a clear line of sight due to increased power, in most practical scenarios, it's probably going to be somewhere between 2.4 GHz Wi-Fi and 5 GHz Wi-Fi. Even when going from the street to a house, coverage is going to be spotty. It's mostly useful for bringing internet to a house without the need to run a cable. Like traditional wired internet, once it gets into the house, you really need a Wi-Fi network to get decent speeds and reliability. It's not something your phone will be connecting to directly throughout your entire house, but it will be able to reach a stationary modem located almost anywhere in a small- to medium-sized modern house.
  
• 5 GHz Wi-Fi can be extremely fast--upwards of 1 Gbps--but it also has very short range and is mostly only useful within a single room. Modern home networks work around this by creating a mesh network; an access point goes in each room, and traffic "bounces" between access points. Because of this, it's typically too expensive for big buildings, as it would require too many access points. Commercial deployments mostly stick to 2.4 GHz.

The relevance to domainers here is that the 5G hype is probably going to be short-lived, on the order of 3-5 years. Once the marketing hype dies down, people aren't going to be googling "phone with 5G support", just as they're not currently googling "phone with 4G support"--either it's going to become ubiquitous and everything is going to support (obviating the need to check), or it's going to die and nobody is going to want it. You're going to want to unload your domains before we reach that point.

If you want to aim for a slightly longer-term investment, 5G home internet won't see as much hype, but it will be longer-lived. In the coming years, consumers are going to have to make a choice: do they want wired internet in their homes, or do they want 5G? This is in contrast with the smartphone market, where there won't be a choice.

 

[noonoo1]

@artstar

Have to say what a great thread, have enjoyed reading all posts!

I just hand regged what i think is a superb 4 char .com that dropped a few days ago by the looks of it.

Thank you for the inspiration.

Mr5g.com

 

[Joakim]

Great technology. But what's so great about 5G domains?

 

[Internet.Domains]

5G has its limitations. The largest being the distance needed between extenders. The 5G signal does not travel far. The infrastructure is running into issues as a result.

In our city the need for more towers is heavily met with resistance due to not only aesthetics, but health concerns as well. I understand this as being an issue in many places.

 

[Recons.Com]

I don't get why are you opening a thread if you are planning to attack anyone expressing opinion that doesn't conform to yours???

 

[Chris Hydrick]

that was just an example mate of tech, it isnt supposed to be taken literally.

No, I get it. But a poor example at that.

In terms of domains, tech aside, it's important to establish a fine line between what's investable and what's not.

All your other examples: CBD, Weed, Crypto. Sure. Because it describes a generic product category, not a branded product category. Phone would have been a better example.

There are currently 1,087 reported sales on namebio containing 'phone'. Opposed to 108 containing 'iPhone'.

Take this a step further and compare the amount of UDRP decisions against the dominant mark 'iPhone' VS the mark 'Phone' and see what is more risk adverse. Both from a domainer perspective, and an end-user developers perspective.

Or compare high sales from domains containing 'iPhone' VS 'Phone'

 

[BaileyUK]

There are two sides to the 5G domain name game. (5th Generation)

First, the positives - If you've got your eye on buying domains of NEW products or services that may only be delivered due to the roll-out of 5G then all well and good. These domains will not feature the term '5G' or anything based around this prefix (or suffix)

Now for the possible mistakes domainers may make: The transition from the current standards to 5G as a service level will be fluid for the end-user, Sure they will notice the upgraded speed levels etc and over the years plenty of new products will enter the market. None of these will refer to the 5G background service level, The user (and market) doesn't care what platform is being used, just on what is being delivered.

Sure a few key 5G terms will be of interest to the network service providers, but, that will be very short lived, they are already taking about the roll-out of (I think it's called 5R) in 2022, an upgraded version of 5G.

So make sure your keeping an eye on the products coming to market and not the term 5G. I must admit it's been a fascinating insight getting to grips with all the technology behind 5G. Thank you president Trump for making us all take a look behind the News on all the security issues. I now consider myself a fully fledged 5G know-all

 

[barman]

You guys are stuck in 2019 registering 5G names meanwhile I'm in 2050 registering all the good 7G domains.

 

[Paul]

well well u r an expert mai non? google makes us all an expert doesnt it. i know im one thanx to googlegoo.

Yes, I am formally educated in and have professional experience with networking. I wouldn't say I'm an expert, but I'm qualified to make these statements. No, I did not Google the information, although I did double-check my facts before hitting Post.

so r u for it or against? u seem to be on the fence.

That question doesn't really make sense from my perspective. There's no "for or against" when it comes to technology like this. Each technology has its uses. I explained:

• The strengths and weaknesses of 5G
• How 5G is likely to be used in the short term and why
• How 5G is likely to be used in the long term and why
• What all of this means for domain investors, and when you should expect the maximum return on your investment

not that i care but u took alot of time to regurgitate google data.

None of that came from Google.

 

[Paul]

so r u for it or against? u seem to be on the fence.

I should clarify this from a domaining perspective: as both a domainer and an IT professional, I see 5G-related domains as fairly sound investments. A lot of money has already been put into 5G deployments--billions of dollars--so it's not going to disappear overnight. It's decent tech, and it's guaranteed to see at least some success.

I also think it's important to differentiate between short-term hype and long-term utility. Domains that I consider to be short-term investments would include words like "smartphone" and "embedded". Domains that I consider to be long-term investments would include words like "modem", "router", "home", and "internet".

I haven't read this entire thread, but I did notice "5GOEM.com". That's a pretty good long-term domain, especially if it was a handreg. You should definitely hang onto that one for a while, @artstar. Eventually, I'd try getting in touch with Qualcomm, Huawei, and possibly even Ubiquiti. There are some serious 5G OEM battles taking place right now, and they're only going to get more heated as time goes on.

For those of you speculating about 6G, keep in mind that billions of dollars have already gone toward 5G. It's extremely expensive to deploy. While I'm sure 6G will come along eventually, it's probably going to be more of an upgrade to 4G or 5G than a whole new technology. It will probably attempt to use existing hardware as much as possible.

Keep in mind that 5G isn't a replacement for 4G; it has different goals and advantages. While comparable technologies have existed for a while, none have been deployed at the same scale that's anticipated for 5G. With this comes an opportunity for domainers: we're going to see applications for 5G that are difficult to imagine right now. If you're the speculative, risk-taking sort, this is definitely one of the most promising niche opportunities that have come along in a while, in part because nobody really knows how 5G is going to be used. If you guess correctly, you could make a pretty good return. I expect the risk to be relatively low: with the amount of money that's already been spent on 5G, it's definitely not going to disappear overnight.

 

[Chris Hydrick]

so whats great about iphone domains

Maybe. Possibly. Could it be. The iPhone trademark?

 

[Marceden]

I'm not asking what's great about domains.

Which can be used for a business. Like any name for business.

I asked what's great about 5G domains?



Apple is a basic dictionary word.

Apple can break into the 5G world. Will Apple need to rebrand to include 5G in their domain, or is a 5G domain unnecessary?

Most people, who live in a region where apples are present, learn the word apple at a young age. Then apple poured a ton of money into marketing, and computers, and now a large part of the world knows apple as a tech manufacturer.

Why isn't Nike pronounced similar to bike? Surely not because of Nikes phenomenal branding efforts.

Additionally, both of your examples are two syllables. Where as 5G is two syllables in itself. Thus any domain with a 5G prefix or suffix has that going against it.

Can you direct me to an example of developed domains containing 5G, or large companies branded with 5G -- that might be able to demonstrate use?

I tried google searching: site:*5g.com

And noticed more parked domains appear in the search results than anything else...

Will '5G' start replacing companies use of 'net' as a replacement for internet?

Eg. NetFlix is old school. 5GFlix is new school?

Grilled as artstar says: Its not about the name its about the marketing. If the domain can be branded. You mention about going onto Google. Please do the following. type in these words. 5g car hire, 5g car sales, 5g courier. These are my domains. I could be totally wrong but if common sense prevails. I have created websites for all of these, added SEO. Within the next two years these will be well established websites. Car companies will not use the actual name as per my domains, but people will use these words as search terms. All car companies will be integrating 5G into there systems. My domains can then be used as redirects.

 

[mistressbellek]

According to GD 5gwear.com sold for $1750. According to DNjournal 5gDefense.com sold for 3,495.

Here are a few 5g sites that I just now pulled up by typing in 5g with popular keywords.

5gMaps.com
5gNews.com

I have more if you want more...

 

[Dondomainer]

Or 5Gsexworker.com

what is 5G sex worker ?..enlighten me

 

[Paul]

yea and we all cant take whatever u write and post with that same grain of salt as it has is simply the same impact isnt it, as u suggested? anyhow i could not care less what people do or dont do i just know what REALITY is in the 5g industry. u r right buddy, dont buy 5g domains people as it is a loser!! this dude is so right its scary!

You love it when I praise your domains and get very agitated when I provide constructive criticism. I've stated numerous times that 5G is here to stay. 5G domains are a relatively safe investment as far as speculation goes. However, not all 5G domains are good; I have pointed out one good domain to you and one bad one.

Rather than blindly assuming that all 5G domains are good or all 5G domains or bad, you should consider the contexts in which 5G is likely to be a search term. "5G online gaming" isn't a good EMD: those search terms aren't going to go together. "5G OEM" is a good EMD: those search terms will go together quite regularly. (The raw number of searches won't be high, but the traffic itself will be high-value, and companies will pay a lot to get those views.)

 

[mistressbellek]

@artstar

Have to say what a great thread, have enjoyed reading all posts!

I just hand regged what i think is a superb 4 char .com that dropped a few days ago by the looks of it.

Thank you for the inspiration.

Mr5g.com

This one is Awesome.

 

[noonoo1]

This one is Awesome.

Love this quote from cnet.com :

"We're not merely relabelling a technology ... [5G] is meaningful," said Mike Haberman, Verizon's VP of network engineering, who was introduced to me on the phone as "Mr. 5G."

 

[ResoluteDomains]

5G interference will reduce weather forecast accuracy by 30%
https://www.wired.com/story/5g-networks-could-throw-weather-forecasting-into-chaos/

Maybe it is long way before properly formalizing 5G.

Haha, not sure where you live but where I am from that would leave pretty much NO accuracy for weather forecasting! LOL (well, I should say where the ARTICLE claims there is actually weather forecasting "accuracy" ..... )

 

[artstar]

Poor comparisons. I don't see the investment opportunity in 5G domains.

Sure, there will be odd sales as in any niche. Only the very very top domains will be of any value, a company might use for redirect or part of a marketing campaign, or an EMD.

Do you envision startups branding around the 5G term?

Do you see 5G banana selling?

hmm,, 5g dork more like it!

 

[ecalc]

5g domains were pointless 15 years ago dont u think?

2004 was too late to hand reg 5g names given the available crumbs, distant rollout date and finite operating window. Exception: 3-character .coms

so r they pointless today?

More pointless than a circle

what else do u suggest domainers do then?

Love your neighbor

leave it alone and move on to what?? cannabis domains? its all the same man.

In the words of that great lady Helen Reagan: just say no

what do u buy btw?

adobada tacos

 

[BaileyUK]

5r? where did u get that info?

On a BBC summary of the security vulnerabilities of China involvement, (published on Monday the 20th) It actually came from a further sub-link (some going back years) as I spent a couple of hours getting myself right up to date on 5G technology , I'll try to find the first link. But I'm not going to delve through everything I read again

If you can't find it mentioned in a Google search of say "5R development or technology" I wouldn't worry to much about it. I been trying to think of what the R may stand for. Revision/Regrade/

Hmm
5Rtech.com already taken.
5Rtechnology.com already taken..

I've stopped looking for any more

All taken in 20015 . Yep sounds like the BBC is right on the money. so if it is right, your way too late already. That puts a thorn in the 6G game then. I'm glad I follow my own advice