Regarding Google PageRank

jane118 · Apr 9, 2004

i have this site

bannershop.ca

if i go to it via typing in "bannershop.ca" only the pagerank is none

but if i type in "www.bannershop.ca" the page rank is 4

whats up with that

Elefekt · Apr 9, 2004

It depends what ppl link to.

Like i link to http://bannershop.ca then it reads specifically for that URL.

But if i link to http://www.bannershopt.ca then it will be that URL.

So basically you can conlude more ppl are linking www.bannershop.ca rather than just bannershop.ca

Hope that helps.

Wesley · Apr 9, 2004

Really? Wow, that helps me out a ton

Anthony · Apr 9, 2004

That's a good point. I really think it would make more sense for Google to evaluate PageRank based on the www.------ and without www. versions of the site, since they are the same page afterall.

Raf · Apr 9, 2004

Id have to agree with Elefekt, great explanation. :tu:

pelican · Apr 9, 2004

it is better to link with www.

Dan Grossman · Apr 9, 2004

Originally posted by Anthony
That's a good point. I really think it would make more sense for Google to evaluate PageRank based on the www.------ and without www. versions of the site, since they are the same page afterall.

They're not always the same site, although Google usually recognizes if they are the same after repeated crawls and merges their entries in search results under one of the variations of the domain. PR on the toolbar doesn't always reflect PR used in SERPs either.

Anthony · Apr 10, 2004

Originally posted by Dan Grossman
They're not always the same site, although Google usually recognizes if they are the same after repeated crawls and merges their entries in search results under one of the variations of the domain. PR on the toolbar doesn't always reflect PR used in SERPs either.

That's true, although they are most likely the same site. I wonder how that would affect PageRank...

d0mainguru · Apr 10, 2004

This is a silly mistake from google point of view, they need to fix it really and for the pr to undertsand taht http:// and www are the same thing

Dan Grossman · Apr 10, 2004

You need to fix your understanding of the Internet to know that domain.com and www.domain.com don't have to be the same, and in enough cases aren't to warrant assuming there might be different content on the two URLs if some people link to one and another to the other (otherwise the domain without www.* wouldn't have gotten any PR).

Peter · Apr 10, 2004

Originally posted by d0mainguru
This is a silly mistake from google point of view, they need to fix it really and for the pr to undertsand taht http:// and www are the same thing

how do you conclude that http and www are the same

http is a protocol

www is an extension put onto a domain but could easily be ww1 ww2 etc etc as many large companies do (each would point to a different server)

WebsiteMax · Apr 12, 2004

Yes, filth is right, www is not with http so like Elefekt said, I noticed this one of my sites as well.

BuLLDoG · Apr 12, 2004

the www on your domain is just like a subdomain and can point to a diffrent site, I have seen a few sites that the domain.com points to one site and the www.domain.com points to a completly diffrent site or some use one for testing purpose. It would be cool if google reconised if your domain.com and www.domain.com was the same site and gave you a PR on both.

Dan Grossman · Apr 12, 2004

Internally, Google does recognize it after enough crawls (you'll notice search results will stop showing both and only have one domain format), but they usually don't assign one PR to both on the toolbar.

webscorpion · Apr 24, 2004

All my domains have the same PR on different "formats":

http://www.domain.com
www.domain.com
domain.com

csmaster2005 · Apr 24, 2004

heh, never noticed that about google page rank

Peter · Apr 24, 2004

google's pr rating seems to be buggered at the moment.

ive got sites with nothing on it and all of a sudden a couple of weeks ago they got pr of 3

CoolGuy · Apr 24, 2004

Oh okay that's was why I kept getting 0.

:D

csmaster2005 · Apr 24, 2004

heh, hope the new site I start gets a good pagerank

Dan Grossman · Apr 24, 2004

I wish PR actually meant something. What used to be huge changes (PR6 to 7, PR0 to 4) now do almost nothing to actual search ranks.

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