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This weekend I am finally working on expressing my personal brand as a domainer. My goal is to expresss it all in one image. I wanted to share the draft I currently have (image below) and also urge others to share in this thread.

I know that my path - never risk much, strive to serve the very value end of the market at least mainly (I would never turn away a $$$$ offer though :xf.cool:), particularly attune to domain name phrases for nonprofits or marketing campaigns, etc. is different from many (and that is good that different people serve different markets).

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Note I have changed from saying we to I, and stress that I am one person? Is this a mistake do you think?

I say I specialize in niches, but did not specify what they are (although my catalog categoreis sort of do this). Do you think I should specify some of the niches?

While I like domains for nonprofits, have I gone too far down that road in this statement?

Welcome feedback on mine and really welcome similar 'brand statements' from other domainers.

Thanks and have a nice weekend everyone.

Bob
 
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Other good sites people can recommend?
Another top tier brokerage worth checking out is the well written “About” page at Igloo, for example:

“Formerly Domain Advisors, we wanted a distinct brand to represent our new direction and growing company. We chose Igloo.com because it's fresh, creates interest, and provides a lasting, memorable image with our clients and within the industry. We found our cool, now we can help you find yours.”

igloo.com

But there’s no reason at all not to look for inspiration at consultancies etc outside the industry. For example, I was looking at KPMG’s new dot brand site recently and they also have a great “About Us” page, for example:

“At KPMG, we inspire confidence and empower change in all we do.”

There’s also a cute photo of a little girl on her dad’s shoulders, drawing a picture of the world on a wall. That’s very compelling and inspiring, “worth a thousand words”.

home.kpmg
 
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Wow, NPs never sleeps!

Even though I was still working on things, I decided last night just before I went to bed to move some content to my home page. I played around an hour or two, got tired and decided I preferred it to my previous one, and left it active. I did not mention it was live and the thought never occurred to me that I would awake to numerous comments on it! So just to assure you it is very much a work in progress. I do still plan to include the second part, but somewhere not on first page I think. Thank you for all of the new comments and suggestions, everyone!

@4pm (and others) Yes I will definitely improve mobile readability - thanks for the link to Google fonts page that I did not know about. I do want something that feels like script on the main one.

Love the business-card style contact box
I do too! Even give my NPs handle for DM from domainers :xf.cool: I am still not quite yet happy with size and where it is placed, but I like it overall. For obvious reasons I am leaving them as image to reduce scraping of info.

"How Transactions Work" and "How Fast" boxes, are squeezed in almost as an afterthought.
Yes definitely not their final form. They are readable on a computer or iPad but not on mobile phone. More work!

Wondering if your "brand" is really a personal mission statement? Or a "about me" page
It is deciding more clearly in "who" I want to be / am as a domainer, and sharing that.
I agree it could well, and normally would, be in an about me page.

@BrandableDomain I love the powerful, simple message in the KPMG example you shared. Please keep examples of taglines, about statements, branding statements etc. coming, people. I agree that by no means do we need to look only in domain community for examples we can learn from.

Thanks so much everyone!

Bob
 
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I think every Domainer, who is serious about the business should have own brand and own website. I can't believe many just redirect their domains to sites like brand bucked and give them all the traffic and pay them for the listing and the commission. It is better to have own website with sales landing pages of each domain and drive all your traffic to the sales pages, you still have a chance that traffic from one domain can lead to a sale of another of your domain, commission free, and you can still list the domains with platforms like Sedo or Afternic, these who won't force you to give them free traffic. My two cents.
 
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The parralel between domains and real estate is often used, so I did a bit of searching around personal branding for real estate agents. While much of it is common sense, I found the following article helpful.
http://blog.homespotter.com/2016/07/15/the-beginners-guide-personal-branding-for-real-estate/

I found Step 2 from the article reproduced below particularly relevant

"Step 2: Focus on What Makes You Different — Once you’ve identified your target audience, your next step is to start thinking about what makes you different than your competitors. The answers you come up with will ultimately help you shape the core of your personal brand. To zero in on what makes you different, ask yourself the following questions:
  • Why do my customers work with me instead of other agents?
  • What are my areas of expertise?
  • When it comes to real estate, what am I passionate about?
  • What am I known best for?
  • Who do I love to help?
  • Why did I become an agent? What are my career goals?
In addition, you can also zero in on what makes you different by asking your past clients the following questions:
  • Why did you choose to work with me and not another agent?
  • What was your experience like working with me? What stood out to you?
  • What mattered most to you during our interaction?
  • Would you refer me to your friends? Why or why not?
  • What can I do better for my future clients?
RECOMMENDED RESOURCE: The Brand Called You by Tom Peters for Fast Company"

Bob
 
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Hey Bob.

Without having looked at in great detail, i would also loose some text. Too much text and you will lose people. Try to condense it now to 1 or 3 sentences.
 
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You know me and love of words though:xf.wink: it's part of my brand!
People are weary of many words these days. It's no longer a good branding strategy, except you're New York Times :xf.cool:
 
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@Bob Hawkes I wish you could write on US Politics, Op-Eds. Then we'd do something together at iConvo.com
 
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Bob, you're a bit like the public television of domains, appealing to scientific and creative pursuits, imho.
Your portfolio got me searching for .science and .space names — which I need like a hole in the head, but these extensions are nice and the base cost isn’t bad. Some in your portfolio are rather elegant: frog.science, particulate.science, innocence.space, planetary.design. They suggest to me researchers, artists, hobbyists, musicians as target buyers. To reach such people is one big question. But to make the site more appealing you might strive for home page images that are more sophisticated and cohesive, and make the Catalog Page's array of images all uniform -- at least in color, maybe style of icon too, so they aren't cliparty.

I guess the top .science names would include:

Life
Earth
Space
Ocean or Oceanic
Sky
Geo
Bio
Chem
Paleo
Lab
Rat
Animal
Domestic

A number of these are designated premiums, so I can’t see some of those high prices until it’s actually put into a cart. I think prices of premium names within an extension should be something you force buyers to notice, so they can better understand prices and availability. Also make them think about what they would be willing to spend for a special project of their own.
 
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Bob, you're a bit like the public television of domains, appealing to scientific and creative pursuits, imho
Actually in one sentence you have exactly identified what I primarily hope to be. My personal branding exercise, still in progress, was an attempt to better show that in a way that will encourage them to start the conversation with me.
Some in your portfolio are rather elegant: frog.science, particulate.science, innocence.space, planetary.design. They suggest to me researchers, artists, hobbyists, musicians as target buyers. To reach such people is one big question.
Thank you, and indeed not trivial to reach that niche of potential end users. Some are using only their institutional sites or things like LinkedIn profiles, and others are sort of interested, but hesitant to commit to the technical side of having a domain. I thought I had a seller from the academic world for one of the names you find elegant, and a great conversation, but in the end he decided he did not want to have the technical side of any domain name and website. I did not realize at the outset how difficult this community is to interest in domain names.
Catalog Page's array of images all uniform -- at least in color, maybe style of icon too, so they aren't cliparty.
Thanks for suggestion which I will carefully consider. My catalog is at least working now, so I don't plan a makeover immediately, but your point is well taken.
I think prices of premium names within an extension should be something you force buyers to notice,
I TOTALLY agree. None of my names are premium renewal, but if they were I would make that clear in the description for the domain name, because it would be unfair not to do so.

Now a question for everyone. Do you know of cases, your own or other domainers, where a major reset of the personal brand seemed to make a statistically significant difference in either sales or offers or at least inquiries? I hope the answer is yes, and I hope in 6 months time I can share my own experience, but it would be encouraging to know that some have found that, and this is all not pointless work (as I do too often :xf.grin:).

Thanks so much for the very helpful comments, @ultradog and everyone, and have a great day everyone!

Bob

ps The one side of my 'brand' that I think is not yet well enough expressed is the use of domain name phrases. I've not forgotten that, and plan to work on that. Sometime as I say :xf.wink:

pps @atv and @dande I agree that saying less is usually better in branding, and that competes with my natural tendency to add all of the details. I know I write too much, especially at NPs! :xf.sick: Thanks for commenting, and no I don't have plans to do any writing about US Politics!
 
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Now a question for everyone. Do you know of cases, your own or other domainers, where a major reset of the personal brand seemed to make a statistically significant difference in either sales or offers or at least inquiries?


I always tended to naively believe that the major and critical part
of a domainer's brand is his portfolio and sales...

Maybe i was just plain wrong :)
Nevermind, it happens to me every other day...

Seriously, with current portfolio quality any re-branding
won't help you much in terms of offers/sales. Sorry.
JMO

And it looks like you know that already:
out of i believe ~200 names in your portfolio you value only 2 of them above $1,000.

..and both are .com, despite your well-known optimism towards new TLDs :)

Meaning even your own assessment of your names quality
is quite low. Very low to be precise.
This level of self-esteem is totally not acceptable for a high-profile "self-branded" domainer.
No jokes.

There's a line in your intro (or what you call your text) saying
"i can help you find a right domain fit".

At the same time, looking at your portfolio and prices one should assume that even for your own portfolio you have not cared (or was not able) to find/buy names that you yourself value higher than mere $1,000..

A figure which is even most hobbyist domainers won't bother
pricing/selling their names for..



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I thank you for your comments @4pm. They demonstrate that my personal brand is obviously totally unclear and needs more work. My brand is to sell value domains to those in sectors not currently well served by domainers in a price range that data has illustrated they might be willing to consider. It is not the brand all, or perhaps even many, should have, but it is the brand I am trying to establish.

I just want to increase my sell through rate from the approx 10% of last few years to maybe 15% through more effective branding, and hopefully marginally increase prices. I wondered if a clearer brand would help.

You criticize that I only price a few domains at above $1000. I disagree.
This level of self-esteem is totally not acceptable

Let me give an example. I live in a high-density older area of the city with a relatively high proportion of seniors. We have a few dozen shops and services in our core area. One of these stores to me has perfect branding. People know what to expect and get it. The store offers great value on most items. They have a fairly broad selection. The people who work there are incredibly friendly and helpful - when they see someone struggling with a walker they rush to help, they offer to find things for you, they bend down or reach up to get items, they always tell you to have a nice day. They are genuinely sad if you came for something and could not find it. They probably don't have a branding consultant :xf.wink: but they have perfectly managed to figure out who they want to be and to authentically be exactly that, the heart of any branding. Now they have nothing in their store more than maybe $25. Does that mean the price defines their self-esteem? Not in my eyes.

Not far away I can enter the tourist area, and the branding is very different. Up class in presentation and prices. Their sales staff are more formal, friendly but reserved. They too brand effectively, but very differently. Do I respect them more because their prices are higher? No (not necessarily less either - just each are being authentic to who they are).

I want to be the friendly, helpful person to offer groups, especially those not well served currently such as artists, academics, one-person companies, and especially non-profits, a domain name in the price they can currently afford. I think within our domain community we need to serve all sectors, we don't all need to chase the business only market for 4 figure and up sales.

But let's talk prices. You indicate that anything below $1000 is not appropriate or acceptable. I disagree.
A figure which is even most hobbyist domainers won't bother pricing/selling their names for.
I know that many would agree with you, but I've looked at a lot of data over the past two years and I think the emphasis on the major sales masks our perceptions. Every day for months I calculate the median NameBio sales price, and summarize them on a weekly basis. The most recent week saw a range from $199 to $240 over the 7 days (predominantly .com sales), the week before it ranged from $205 to $240, the week before that the daily medians went from $208 to $302. If you want to look at more I put links to all my weekly summaries for 2019 here. Yes NameBio is a mix of wholesale and retail sales, but the median sales price of a .com sale is a few hundred dollars. (if you included the real domainer to domaoner sales by adding the under $100 sales the median would move to less than $25 - these have been excluded from the above data). If you analyze the sold domains thread on NPs you also see a lot of sales below your $1000 figure. But the key point is the current domain system is resulting in most not buying any domain at all!

The vast majority of businesses and organizations globally are not buying any domain name currently. They choose a FB, Wix, etc. business page, or no online presence. For example the number of active current users on Wix is about 65x the total number of domain sales ever recorded in the NameBio database. Those that do choose, in most cases select what they can hand register.

I absolutely know that there is a market, a growable one, for 4, 5 and more figure sales to businesses. Many NPs members are doing well with domains for that market. But I think there is also a market, one that our industry is not serving effectively, for domains that are better than hand-registered and priced in the $120 to $1200 range. With the right throughput ratio, and smart acquisitions, I feel that can be profitable.

Finally though, hopefully this price discussion will not divert the main branding emphasis of the thread, and I would like to get commentary on that.
a question for everyone. Do you know of cases, your own or other domainers, where a major reset of the personal brand seemed to make a statistically significant difference in either sales or offers or at least inquiries?
I am not in any way disputing that it is portfolio and selling efforts that are the major determination, as @4pm states, but asking do people know of cases where a rebranding say increased number of offers by 25%. Thanks.

Thank you for your comments. They demonstrate that I am still struggling to get across the personal brand I have and want to establish. More work required.

Bob
 
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I continued to look at examples from the world of real estate regarding personal branding. This article "11 Examples of Perfect Real Estate Branding" by Matthew Bushery led me to some I liked, and some that I did not.

One of the examples I liked best from the article was this one for a California real estate agent. I like that it is graphical, has data but not too data heavy, and in particular it helps you to get to know him a little bit. I like the graphic at the bottom with an informal picture embedded in his full name. What do people think? Do you think something like this would work in the domain world? Examples?

Bob

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I just read a recently published article (by Eric Saelens published on TheDrum) "Why the best advertising in history will always be made by CEOs". The article starts with

"The brands that outperform all competitors in their market always have one and the same thing in common: they are led by boardrooms who truly, deeply love the brand they are responsible for.

The founders – but in many cases also their successor chief executives, who cherish personal involvement in the nuts and bolts of their brand’s advertising – have invariably become outperformers themselves. That can’t be a coincidence. And it isn’t.

The best loved and admired brands in the world are just that because their leaders understand where the true power of business lies: in the most spirited, creative, mold-breaking, loveable brand advertising they can inspire their agencies to create."

You can go on to read the full article here.

While the key point of the article is that brands that reflect a strong personality of a central figure, and that advertise with tight integration with that personality (they use the Steve Jobs and Apple example), I think that there might be a lesson here for personal branding on a much smaller scale. Should your site, and indeed to some degree your domain portfolio, represent your personal interests and values in an unabashed way, and for authentic branding should you not be afraid to say that?

Re portfolio, I am of course not saying look only at that. The key question is always who would benefit from this domain name. But given choices, that seem to have equal end user appeal, does it make sense to go with the domain that you like best, since you will be more effective promoting that name? Interested in thoughts of others.

Have a great weekend, everyone!

Bob
 
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