Services similar to Efty?

Haris · May 6, 2019

Hello everyone

I am looking for services similar to Efty but less costly. Not saying Efty is too expensive. I have been paying $84 for the past 2 or 3 years, but just because I can no longer use PayPal (The reason why I don't auction on NP anymore), I will be charged the new price of $144 for the same service. That's how Efty's system is and Doron can't change it.

So are there any services similar to Efty (Not ToughDomains)?

I used Bodis landing pages before I came across Efty, they are obviously not as good but they're totally free and has escrow.com integration, from what I can remember.

What I would like in the service:

1) Unlimited domains is better but at least 500 is fine.
2) A main webpage where I can showcase the best domains, it's not necessary because buyers would probably care for a contact form on the landing page and not a main site but I think it's better to have a main page.
3) SSL
4) Payment integration ( not really necessary though)
5) Cost less than $100 per year.

The rest of the services offered by Efty are not important to me.

Thanks!

Mr.company · May 6, 2019

https://www.domainholder.io/pricing

Haris · May 6, 2019

leadnetwork said:
https://www.domainholder.io/pricing

Is this your service? If not then what's your experience with them?

Thanks!

Rob Monster · May 6, 2019

You can do all of this at Epik for free:

- Domain management is free, including for external domains
- NamePros members can park external domains for free
- SSL certificates are now included free with parking landers. See example here.
- Integrated payment processing and escrow

The new SSL Epik parking landers also look great on mobile devices.

As for inquiries, we route the full contact details -- whatever the inquiring party gives us is transmitted to the buyer. The seller has the option of completing their sale through.

Detailed instructions are here:

https://www.epik.com/support/knowledgebase/selling-and-leasing-domains-on-epik/
https://www.epik.com/support/knowledgebase/enable-a-coming-soon-or-domain-parking-page/
https://www.epik.com/support/knowledgebase/creating-and-managing-a-custom-marketplace-portal/

For parking external domains for PPC, we do have to approve you. Other than that, anyone can do this today, for free, at Epik.

Jv1999 · May 6, 2019

stating the obv: Undeveloped.com, Namesilo landers

TCK · May 6, 2019

Hi Harris,

I would like to invite you to check out Domain Market Pro. It’s a domain management and marketing platform that allows you to build your own domain marketplace.

DMP has all the features you listed and many more.

The basic plan allows up to 500 domains and is under 100.

Here is a comparison of DMP to efty:

https://domainmarketpro.com/features/

There is a similar thread here with more details as well:

https://www.namepros.com/threads/sites-like-efty-com.1135355/

One feature that I think you may find helpful is that DMP has a default payment option that does not require any integration. “Huh?”, you ask.

Yes. How it works is, the buyer fills out a form which sends a “purchase order” and then you can follow up with the buyer on how to complete the payment via whichever means you want.

You can also offer other options to pay such as Wire Transfer or escrow.

Using Epik or undeveloped or another 3rd party marketplace is recommended and will give you more exposure. But having the domains land on sales pages at your own branded marketplace increases opportunities and allows you to capture leads and deal directly with potential buyers,

DMP also helps you to get a better understanding of potential budget of a buyer.

https://domainmarketpro.com/testimonials/

https://domainmarketpro.com/showcase/

Let me know if you have any questions. I’d be happy to help you in any way I can.

Best Regards,
Tom

Steven McEvoy · May 6, 2019

All these services seem like a waste to me, Just throw up a WP website and make it your own.

TCK · May 6, 2019

Steven McEvoy said:
All these services seem like a waste to me, Just throw up a WP website and make it your own.

Sure. If you have the skill, time, and can make it secure enough. It takes time to forward hundreds of domains to your WP-powered landing pages. At Domain Market Pro, you can set the DNS in bulk for ALL of your domains. Import those domains via CSV and it’s all taken care of.

Additionally, we have invested significantly in infrastructure and security to protect sites from attacks.

I have seen many domainers with design skills start building sites on WP but then giving up and leaving them unfinished or getting hacked.

DMP allows you to build your own branded marketplace and is built from the ground up for domain sales. WP isn’t.

Steven McEvoy · May 6, 2019

TCK said:
Sure. If you have the skill, time, and can make it secure enough. It takes time to forward hundreds of domains to your WP-powered landing pages. At Domain Market Pro, you can set the DNS in bulk for ALL of your domains. Import those domains via CSV and it’s all taken care of.

I get what you're saying but You can put up a WP website with a theme from themeforest or anywhere within 30min. The DNS in bulk can be done with some extra coding or plugin.

TCK said:
Additionally, we have invested significantly in infrastructure and security to protect sites from attacks.

All the WP owner has to do is pay for a plugin like wordfence to help with security.

TCK said:
I have seen many domainers with design skills start building sites on WP but then giving up and leaving them unfinished or getting hacked.

This is pure laziness and can easily avoided with logging in daily and clicking a simple button called update plugins. Those domainers are not 100% behind there business and have given up on it.

TCK said:
DMP allows you to build your own branded marketplace and is built from the ground up for domain sales. WP isn’t.

This can easily be done with WP and more customizable...

TCK · May 6, 2019

@Steven McEvoy, I think you are making it sound easier than it is. We also do WP development and have developed sites that are both WP/DMP powered.

DMP is ideal for domainers that want to focus on sales.

However, there is nothing wrong to build a site on WP if you have the skills and time.

If you hire a WP developer, the costs can get pretty steep.

Then you have to take into consideration tech support and keeping the site updated with latest security patches.

Again, nothing wrong with that if you have the time and skills or can afford to hire someone.

Jv1999 · May 6, 2019

Steven McEvoy said:
I get what you're saying but You can put up a WP website with a theme from themeforest or anywhere within 30min. The DNS in bulk can be done with some extra coding or plugin.

All the WP owner has to do is pay for a plugin like wordfence to help with security.

This is pure laziness and can easily avoided with logging in daily and clicking a simple button called update plugins. Those domainers are not 100% behind there business and have given up on it.

This can easily be done with WP and more customizable...

Let's say I have a premium theme and I have security plugins... So doesn't that still mean I have to install WordPress for each domain? Is there a way to do it all at once?

If not, then it's kind of hard if you have 1000+ domains.

Steven McEvoy · May 6, 2019

Jv1999 said:
Let's say I have a premium theme and I have security plugins... So doesn't that still mean I have to install WordPress for each domain? Is there a way to do it all at once?

If not, then it's kind of hard if you have 1000+ domains.

No, you can do DNS redirects

TCK · May 6, 2019

Jv1999 said:
Let's say I have a premium theme and I have security plugins... So doesn't that still mean I have to install WordPress for each domain? Is there a way to do it all at once?

If not, then it's kind of hard if you have 1000+ domains.

That would be unrealistic. Another way I've seen domainers do it is create a sales page for each domain on the WP site and then forward the domain at the registrar level. That also is very tedious and time-consuming doing it for each domain.

Saying WP is free is really a misnomer. Because to really make it work you have to spend a lot of time, time you could be selling, or hiring someone. WP developers don't come cheap.

Additionally, if you are going to create your own WP site then you have to take into consideration hosting. There's not only the monthly cost involved but also the cost in terms of performance. WP sites can get bloated and slow the more plugins you install. Shared hosting has very poor performance record and your site is exposed to hacking if either your site or another site on the same server is hacked. At the very least, brute force or denial of service attacks will cause your site to be unavailable.

To get the level of hosting that DMP provides you will need to get a very good VPS at the very least which is much more expensive than even the highest plan we offer. DMP hosting is at the performance dedicated server level.

Bots are constantly fishing for WP vulnerabilities whether that is in the core files or any plugin and theme files.

Plugins like Wordfence work great to prevent IP or port threats but if another site gets hacked then it can make all sites on the same server vulnerable.

Abdullah Abdullah · May 6, 2019

TCK said:
That would be unrealistic. Another way I've seen domainers do it is create a sales page for each domain on the WP site and then forward the domain at the registrar level. That also is very tedious and time-consuming doing it for each domain.

Saying WP is free is really a misnomer. Because to really make it work you have to spend a lot of time, time you could be selling, or hiring someone. WP developers don't come cheap.

Additionally, if you are going to create your own WP site then you have to take into consideration hosting. There's not only the monthly cost involved but also the cost in terms of performance. WP sites can get bloated and slow the more plugins you install. Shared hosting has very poor performance record and your site is exposed to hacking if either your site or another site on the same server is hacked. At the very least, brute force or denial of service attacks will cause your site to be unavailable.

To get the level of hosting that DMP provides you will need to get a very good VPS at the very least which is much more expensive than even the highest plan we offer. DMP hosting is at the performance dedicated server level.

Bots are constantly fishing for WP vulnerabilities whether that is in the core files or any plugin and theme files.

Plugins like Wordfence work great to prevent IP or port threats but if another site gets hacked then it can make all sites on the same server vulnerable.

What is the cheapest plan you have and are they without branding?

Steven McEvoy · May 6, 2019

TCK said:
That would be unrealistic. Another way I've seen domainers do it is create a sales page for each domain on the WP site and then forward the domain at the registrar level. That

Saying WP is free is really a misnomer. Because to really make it work you have to spend a lot of time, time you could be selling, or hiring someone. WP developers don't come cheap.

Additionally, if you are going to create your own WP site then you have to take into consideration hosting. There's not only the monthly cost involved but also the cost in terms of performance. WP sites can get bloated and slow the more plugins you install. Shared hosting has very poor performance record and your site is exposed to hacking if either your site or another site on the same server is hacked. At the very least, brute force or denial of service attacks will cause your site to be unavailable.

To get the level of hosting that DMP provides you will need to get a very good VPS at the very least which is much more expensive than even the highest plan we offer. DMP hosting is at the performance dedicated server level.

Bots are constantly fishing for WP vulnerabilities whether that is in the core files or any plugin and theme files.

Plugins like Wordfence work great to prevent IP or port threats but if another site gets hacked then it can make all sites on the same server vulnerable.

This is completely one sided bogus B.S. information.

No one said anything about WP being free. All you need is domain +Hosting and you can have a WP site up an running. Hosting is super cheap now a days you can be spending form $5- $15 month for your own website. If you can afford $15 a month you will never have problems with bloated and slow websites. Specially getting hacked, if you keep up to date with your plugins.

TCK · May 6, 2019

Abdullah Abdullah said:
What is the cheapest plan you have and are they without branding?

Our plans are outlined here:

https://domainmarketpro.com/signup/

TCK · May 6, 2019

Steven McEvoy said:
This is completely one sided bogus B.S. information.

No one said anything about WP being free. All you need is domain +Hosting and you can have a WP site up an running. Hosting is super cheap now a days you can be spending form $5- $15 month for your own website. If you can afford $15 a month you will never have problems with bloated and slow websites. Specially getting hacked, if you keep up to date with your plugins.

What is bogus about it?

Yes, you can get super cheap hosting. That’s true. But the emphasis is on the word “cheap”.

And it is common knowledge that if you are not careful and install “free” plugins and/or themes then you can not be certain the code is well written and won’t cause issues.

I’ve been there. I have worked with WP for over 15 years. I have fixed hacked WP sites. I think it is very good software. But you have to consider the project and the best software to get it launched. Not all CMS’s are built for infinite types of projects. WP was originally built for blogging. And today it is amazing at that. Through plugins and super themes it has expanded its role to be a general website builder for nearly any type of site. But the plugins and such themes are very bulky, that’s no secret.

If WP works great for you then by all means keep using it.

Abdullah Abdullah · May 6, 2019

TCK said:
What is bogus about it?

Yes, you can get super cheap hosting. That’s true. But the emphasis is on the word “cheap”.

And it is common knowledge that if you are not careful and install “free” plugins and/or themes then you can not be certain the code is well written and won’t cause issues.

I’ve been there. I have worked with WP for over 15 years. I have fixed hacked WP sites. I think it is very good software. But you have to consider the project and the best software to get it launched. Not all CMS’s are built for infinite types of projects. WP was originally built for blogging. And today it is amazing at that. Through plugins and super themes it has expanded its role to be a general website builder for nearly any type of site. But the plugins and such themes are very bulky, that’s no secret.

If WP works great for you then by all means keep using it.

I agree with you. Wordpress needs constant maintenance and compatibility check of new plugs and updates which can break sites. I use it and I know the problems it has.

alcy · May 6, 2019

if u go undeveloped way... they offer you link to all your names.. with searchbar etc.

its all free.

cheers.

TCK · May 6, 2019

alcy said:
if u go undeveloped way... they offer you link to all your names.. with searchbar etc.

its all free.

cheers.

It’s not free when you consider commissions and the fact you are sending them free traffic that can convert into sales of either your domains or someone else’s. When you go to the home page from any one of your domain pages then the domains listed are from all sellers.

Jv1999 · May 7, 2019

TCK said:
It’s not free when you consider commissions and the fact you are sending them free traffic that can convert into sales of either your domains or someone else’s. When you go to the home page from any one of your domain pages then the domains listed are from all sellers.

Unless you're making sails every month, their commission is very reasonable.

What your company is offering and what efty is offering is a monthly fee.

your lowest plan is $7 per month for 500 domains. But I'm not sure it includes payment processing and escrow. Imho, the most important feature of a landing page is the ability to BIN.

I looked through two domains in your showcase, and you actually have to click through several pages, before you actually see the first domain name for sale. And then when you click on that, there's just no BIN. There's a small field at the top where it says "your offer" (not even a BIN). and the rest of the form is the buyer's info...

Undeveloped and Namesilo and EPIK -- and even GD all let you BIN. That's a powerful feature.

I suppose for high x,xxx names, non-BIN landers are great because the buyer is serious. But for xxx sails and low x,xxx even, even the successful, final buyer can't be arsed to email back or fill out a form. They want to BIN. Also, they maybe be wishy-washy and when they FOMO into your domain with a BIN, it's irreversible for Undeveloped.

I'm saying, for lower-priced domains, you have to make a path to fast checkout to maximize your sail %

so i guess it all depends on what people need! If you're doing quick flips throughout the month, then a landing page without a BIN (like TCK's company) is not advisable. But if you're a super pro domainer who only makes mid-high x,xxx sails per year / few months, then TCK's company is the best thing ever.

But @TCK if your company offers BINable pages, then it becomes probably on par with Undeveloped.

karmaco · May 7, 2019

Did Efty tell you you were going to pay $144? I am also grandfathered into the $84 dollar yearly rate and have not heard about a price hike for grandfathered accounts.

TCK · May 7, 2019

Jv1999 said:
Unless you're making sails every month, their commission is very reasonable.

What your company is offering and what efty is offering is a monthly fee.

your lowest plan is $7 per month for 500 domains. But I'm not sure it includes payment processing and escrow. Imho, the most important feature of a landing page is the ability to BIN.

I looked through two domains in your showcase, and you actually have to click through several pages, before you actually see the first domain name for sale. And then when you click on that, there's just no BIN. There's a small field at the top where it says "your offer" (not even a BIN). and the rest of the form is the buyer's info...

Undeveloped and Namesilo and EPIK -- and even GD all let you BIN. That's a powerful feature.

I suppose for high x,xxx names, non-BIN landers are great because the buyer is serious. But for xxx sails and low x,xxx even, even the successful, final buyer can't be arsed to email back or fill out a form. They want to BIN. Also, they maybe be wishy-washy and when they FOMO into your domain with a BIN, it's irreversible for Undeveloped.

I'm saying, for lower-priced domains, you have to make a path to fast checkout to maximize your sail %

so i guess it all depends on what people need! If you're doing quick flips throughout the month, then a landing page without a BIN (like TCK's company) is not advisable. But if you're a super pro domainer who only makes mid-high x,xxx sails per year / few months, then TCK's company is the best thing ever.

But @TCK if your company offers BINable pages, then it becomes probably on par with Undeveloped.

Thanks for checking out Domain Market Pro.

The payment processing options are very flexible that include PayPal, escrow, Wire Transfer, and purchase order. Some include fees while others don’t.

Our clients choose what options they want to utilize. Quite a few choose to negotiate rather than offer BIN. Our platform is great for that. But you can offer BIN and get paid right away as well as allow for both BIN and Make an Offer.

So if you want to flip domains quickly then certainly add low BIN prices and you can get paid automatically.

Additionally, the benefit of the integrated shopping cart is that buyers may want to purchase multiple domains if the BIN prices are attractive.

Just to reiterate, DMP’s sales and landing pages can be with or without BIN.

The difference between DMP and undeveloped is that buyers only get to browse your domains and you can customize the sales pitch (plus other pages) and create your own domain sales brand on a unique domain name. This opens up many new opportunities for sales.

As such, DMP is quite different from undeveloped. But that doesn’t say you shouldn’t utilize both.

offthehandle · May 7, 2019

Steven McEvoy said:
This is completely one sided bogus B.S. information.

Agree. No need to subscribe, no need to pay someone to do this WP stuff. I have nothing to sell or any axe to grind and before domaining, very little experience in Wordpress or Content management platforms.

The key to all this is getting traffic to your domains. Zero or no traffic unless you buy traffic domains pointed to your site or cloak pbn’s- which is an entirely different topic and in depth thing.

The downside with third party platforms is you give up control. You use their nameservers and they don't give you exact stats (Location of ip, etc.) that you can see like you do in AWstats in cPanel or stats plug-ins. They also don't give you any SEO advantage, so why not create your own?

I had Efty, Doron is a super nice guy it is nice with landing pages and for managing expiration dates, but no SEO and no detailed stats like if you have your own cPanel- so for me, no further interest.

Shared hosting is cheap, you can get it now for $26 a year I noticed on Namecheap just last week, I have one site with 40K pages there works fine.
https://www.namecheap.com/hosting/shared/

I pay $115 a year on another host and 4 WP sites (no more than that within their bandwidth allowed) and 96 html pages, 100 total and great spam free email service from my host I have used many years, they answer phone 24 hrs too.

Wordpress itself is free and fast to install and fairly simple, great free themes and I don’t pay for many plugins. You don't need many plug in's anyway.

Easiest is point all your domains to one WP site, batch 301 all domains at your registrar (If they have it, Godaddy is really a lame interface btw- NS and NB are great) to the same contact page or home page, no need for separate pages. This isn't difficult, nor time consuming. In 2 years, I have installed 50 + WP sites with no help or instruction just common sense.

One word of caution, the bot world is crazy. Wordfence is a mandatory install within say 15 minutes after a softalicous auto install of WP. Don't delay. You will can get hacked, I know as once I left a new site overnight, next day in 12 hrs I had some ISIS terrorist bullshit page installed by a hacker and ruined the install. Simply deleted and reinstalled. No big deal.

One page html templates, I recently went back to that for some domains- takes 2 hours to collect photos and write content. In cPanel just put in add on domains.

Dm me if you want help, I have nothing to sell here.

Abdullah Abdullah said:
Wordpress needs constant maintenance and compatibility check of new plugs and updates which can break sites. I use it and I know the problems it has.

Use only a few plug ins. Some updates are a nuisance and constant, but it only takes 5 minutes to update, so dump those plugin's that update too often- some rarely like Contact form 7 have few updates.
If you don't use Yoast, then you won't be bothered- those people constantly require it- it's a game with some freebies. So does a stats plug in I am getting ready to deactivate.

Go snoop on websites you like, and then use this site to find out plug ins they use:

https://www.wpthemedetector.com/

All anyone needs on a wp install is:

Contact form 7
Visitor Stats plug in
Jetpack or Yoast if you worry about their crap or ideas (I am a non-believer)
404 to 301 redirect (If domain has prior traffic, backlinks or you intend to erase pages)
bot's blocker or do it in the .htacess file- block nuisance ip's or entire countries

Haris · May 7, 2019

alcy said:
if u go undeveloped way... they offer you link to all your names.. with searchbar etc.

its all free.

cheers.

They charge commission.

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