discuss .Co registry RESERVING pending delete domain names for themselves?

same for .CLUB

Some more examples:

Is it dependant on the registrar? I mean does the name have to be dropping to be reserved or are they stopping the registrar renewing for another year and then auctioning them off like GoDaddy does.

D Haynes said:

Is it dependant on the registrar? I mean does the name have to be dropping to be reserved or are they stopping the registrar renewing for another year and then auctioning them off like GoDaddy does.

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I don't think the registrar is reserving the domain names. Initially, I thought a particular registrar is reserving the domain names. But then yesterday, I compiled a list of some domains which were supposed to drop and become available for hand registration. There were multiple registrars.

For ex: HaveFun.co was registered at Namecheap
Adrienne.co was registered at Tucows
SpaceLabs.co was registered at GoDaddy

One more domain name that was supposed to drop yesterday - Nonsense.co was registered at Enom

Crysis said:

I don't think the registrar is reserving the domain names. Initially, I thought a particular registrar is reserving the domain names. But then yesterday, I compiled a list of some domains which were supposed to drop and become available for hand registration. There were multiple registrars.

For ex: HaveFun.co was registered at Namecheap
Adrienne.co was registered at Tucows
SpaceLabs.co was registered at GoDaddy

One more domain name that was supposed to drop yesterday - Nonsense.co was registered at Enom

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So the GoDaddy name will have already gone though their expired auction process without any interest before dropping and being reserved?

D Haynes said:

So the GoDaddy name will have already gone though their expired auction process without any interest before dropping and being reserved?

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Yes. These are pending delete domain names. I believe Godaddy name has already gone through the Expired auction and closeout process before dropping and becoming available for hand registration.

Thanks for the info @Crysis.

May be they are studying why such "very good" names are dropping. LOL!

That's always the problem when you designate human functions to robots.

From their official site...

There are a number of names that have not been made available to the public for a variety of reasons. .CO Internet has established business policies and procedures around these names in accordance with international best practices. There are three types of name lists that have been withheld from general availability within the .CO namespace:

• Premium Domain List: The Premium Domain List generally consists of names reserved by .CO Internet S.A.S. for future sale via public or private auction and/or privately negotiated transactions, including single and double character names, keywords and generic terms.
• Restricted Domain List: The Restricted Domain List generally consists of names stipulated by the Colombian Government as restricted and not available for registration.
• Reserved Domain List: The Reserved Domain List generally consists of names reserved by .CO Internet S.A.S. for promotional and/or other strategic purposes, and/or for its or its affiliates’ internal use.

The .CO registry has not published a publicly available list of all the Premium and Reserved domain names.

http://www.go.co/company/premium-names

Bull if true

creataweb said:

Bull if true

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How is what they are doing different from what the other registry and registrars are doing, have been doing? I vaguely recall the former GoDaddy CEO talking about ethics in regards to fees. But since then, 1000+ new tld launches. I think all parties are testing new pricing ideas now.

Look at xyz another popular one. $55,000 "Recommended first year fee" for Tier 1 domains. $13,000 for Tier 2. We are a long ways away from a few tld 10 years ago.

https://gen.xyz/premiums

nothing new

even .io is doing the same bone .io cam.io etc not dropped but reserved and later registered in park .io and auctioned

chandan said:

nothing new

even .io is doing the same bone .io cam.io etc not dropped but reserved and later registered in park .io and auctioned

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First, Bone.io, Cam.io etc. are not exactly mediocre domain names. They can be considered as premium domains. But, my concern was that the .co registry is reserving even mediocre domain names like Artinvestor.co, NxStage.co, etc for the past few weeks.

Secondly, Park.io is a domain back-ordering service. We can backorder pending delete domains and when more than one person backorders the same domain name. it goes into an auction. As far as I know, they don't support external auctions.

https://park.io/support

"Can I list my own domain for auction on Park.io?
Sorry, not at this time. We may add this feature in the future."

Finally, .io registry is not auctioning premium domain names at Park.io. They have tied up with Divido Ltd, a UK based organization specializing in providing proven platforms enabling TLD Registries to outsource the release of premium domain names in a fair and transparent manner.

https://www.divido.org/

John Napoletano said:

How is what they are doing different from what the other registry and registrars are doing, have been doing? I vaguely recall the former GoDaddy CEO talking about ethics in regards to fees. But since then, 1000+ new tld launches. I think all parties are testing new pricing ideas now.

Look at xyz another popular one. $55,000 "Recommended first year fee" for Tier 1 domains. $13,000 for Tier 2. We are a long ways away from a few tld 10 years ago.

https://gen.xyz/premiums

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The big difference is that .CO is a ccTLD not a GTLD or NGTD. Ethical standards need to be much, much higher.

As a CIRA member, I know for sure such things won't be allowed to happen in .CA. The only names that should be reserved are those that are emds of cities, municipalities and provinces. Apart from that, as a democratically conscious country code top level domain, everything else is left OPEN to the public (Canadian) for registration.

The fact that .co is even doing this is unacceptable. There is big difference between representing a country and representing a brand. .CO isn't .COMPANY, it's the CCTLD of Colombia. The moment management starts to forget that is the moment they need to be ushered out the door.

Crysis said:

Secondly, Park.io is a domain back-ordering service. We can backorder pending delete domains and when more than one person backorders the same domain name. it goes into an auction. As far as I know, they don't support external auctions.

https://park.io/support

Finally, .io registry is not auctioning premium domain names at Park.io. They have tied up with Divido Ltd, a UK based organization specializing in providing proven platforms enabling TLD Registries to outsource the release of premium domain names in a fair and transparent manner.

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after drop time whois were showing reserved . and they registered to uk entity and set auction in park .io

NNNN.co CVCV.co two words of garbage are all reserved, why LLL.co is not reserved.

chandan said:

nothing new

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Actually it is new. Seems like interesting timing...

Crysis said:

Is this ethical?

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At the very least, it's not healthy.
Registries are in a privileged position. In the real world (that the domain industry is able to escape), there are laws and regulations to avoid or limit abuse of a dominant position, and the conflicts of interest arising from such a position.

bitcoin .zone dropped and reserved .

"This name is reserved by the Registry in accordance with ICANN Policy."

slader23 said:

The big difference is that .CO is a ccTLD not a GTLD or NGTD. Ethical standards need to be much, much higher.

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Please support your comments with source links to back them up. Just saying stuff about democracy and ethics doesn't answer anything. You are accusing a company of wrong doing. There is no reason to single them out unless you can show a policy that has been violated.

I linked to their premium and reserved domain policy above, and gave an example via xyz. What they are doing is the industry trend.

http://www.go.co/about/
http://www.go.co/company/premium-names
https://gen.xyz/premiums

In 2014 Neustar acquired .CO Internet for $109 million. Just because .co is categorized as a ccTld on sites like NamePros and NameBio doesn't mean it's be operated as such, and is legally obligated to be operated as such. .COM.CO is the ccTLD like community extension in use in Colombia. Other countries have this split going on like .COM.MX with .MX for example.

The difference is .CO is the short of .COM and is recognized as a global tld. If you think shorter is better then think .COM >> .CO. It's not marketed as a ccTLD for Colombia.

https://www.home.neustar/about-us/news-room/press-releases/2014/neustar-to-acquire-co-internet-sas

If you have more info please share.

More registry greed? This is the best way to stop any growth on an extension, holding back names

John Napoletano said:

Please support your comments with source links to back them up. Just saying stuff about democracy and ethics doesn't answer anything. You are accusing a company of wrong doing. There is no reason to single them out unless you can show a policy that has been violated.

I linked to their premium and reserved domain policy above, and gave an example via xyz. What they are doing is the industry trend.

http://www.go.co/about/
http://www.go.co/company/premium-names
https://gen.xyz/premiums

In 2014 Neustar acquired .CO Internet for $109 million. Just because .co is categorized as a ccTld on sites like NamePros and NameBio doesn't mean it's be operated as such, and is legally obligated to be operated as such. .COM.CO is the ccTLD like community extension in use in Colombia. Other countries have this split going on like .COM.MX with .MX for example.

The difference is .CO is the short of .COM and is recognized as a global tld. If you think shorter is better then think .COM >> .CO. It's not marketed as a ccTLD for Colombia.

https://www.home.neustar/about-us/news-room/press-releases/2014/neustar-to-acquire-co-internet-sas

If you have more info please share.

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You don't seem to understand. .CO is a CCTLD plain and simple. It is operated as a CCTLD. LEGALLY IT IS A CCTLD. Just because they try to brand it as something else doesn't change that matter. .COM.CO is a second level cctld and so is .COM.MX, .CO and .MX are the top level country code domains for Colombia and Mexico, respectively.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.co

slader23 said:

You don't seem to understand...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.co

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Wikipedia is not a 'source'. Please show us something from ICANN or Ministry of Communications of Colombia that explains what was in Neustar's contract when they acquired the tld. That is pure journalism. Linking to non-source data is not helpful.

"...Ministry of Communications of Colombia initiated a public consultation process involving local and international participants, including members of the ICANN community, with the objective of defining the future of the .CO TLD..."

Above is probably the most important part of the wiki link. I highly doubt "The Future" was a ccTLD.