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What a surprise today when I noticed the huge changes on the website LLLLSales.com, now redirecting to ShortNames.com by @rpanella.

More features and now a lot more data info than just the 4L.com

Personnally, I really like the new "Fixed Price" menu for the 4L. I am not really in other short like 5L, 6N, 7N, but it is nice to have it all in one place.

What do you guys think of it?



Previous: https://www.namepros.com/threads/llllsales-com.561686/
 
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Just checked the site today after a long gap and was surprised. Nice work indeed! Keep it up!
 
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ShortNames is one of the tools I use each and everyday.
The UI is easy to work with and the data are priceless.
Bottom line, they are quite good so far.

Looking forward to be able to make an account.
I hope that they will add some features like:
- be able to save queries based on specific filters and criteria
- get notifications based on that queries straight on my email

Big thumbs up for them! ;)
 
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@rpanella could you bring .CC out of "other"
 
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I pushed a couple new updates today:

1) It's now possible to search on many different extensions separately (including .cc, @domainerfella) instead of just the main few. For now I took the most popular ~30 based on quantity of sales in our database, and the rest are still grouped in Other.

2) I've added a new section for hyphenated short domains (http://shortnames.com/hyphenated) for anyone interested in those. Sales data goes back as long as we've been collecting it, and there's a number of search filters to drill down into different types of hyphenated names.

The next big update will be adding user accounts with the ability to personalize things, subscribe to searches, etc. I will be posting a survey to get some user feedback in the coming weeks.

Also, I will be at Namescon Saturday (tomorrow) evening through Wednesday if anyone is there and wants to grab a beer and talk ShortNames or LLLL.coms! Feel free to contact me if you'd like to meet up. :)
 
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Hi Russel (@rpanella), i have a question about the 'Other Tags' filters at for ex. 5N. Does the order of the filters reflect deminishing worth ?
i.o.w. do you think that 98711 is worth more than 11119 ?
And 11235 (2r) more than 11211 (4n)
Or are they grouped by type of filter ?

After more thought on this, i think it is just by type :)
So if that is the case, what do you think the order in worth should be, maybe (of course: Everybody reply please) the following ?
{For every filter the worst pattern !}

4r-4s-4n-Pal-3r-3s-Abab-3n-2r

Examples:
4r: 91111
4s: 95432
4n: 11121
Pal: 97179
3r: 97111
3s: 97543
Abab: 12125
3n: 12511
2r: 11256
 
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Wish @rpanella : The 'Other Tags' now work as OR filters.
If a toggle switch would be added, so that these filters would work as AND filters ... that would be very nice :)
 
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Hi Russel (@rpanella), i have a question about the 'Other Tags' filters at for ex. 5N. Does the order of the filters reflect deminishing worth ?
i.o.w. do you think that 98711 is worth more than 11119 ?
And 11235 (2r) more than 11211 (4n)
Or are they grouped by type of filter ?

After more thought on this, i think it is just by type :)
So if that is the case, what do you think the order in worth should be, maybe (of course: Everybody reply please) the following ?
{For every filter the worst pattern !}

4r-4s-4n-Pal-3r-3s-Abab-3n-2r

Examples:
4r: 91111
4s: 95432
4n: 11121
Pal: 97179
3r: 97111
3s: 97543
Abab: 12125
3n: 12511
2r: 11256

They are simply grouped by the type of filter and are in no particular order. My guess would be repeating tend to have higher values, but I have not personally done any analysis on the sales data based on tags for numerics.

Wish @rpanella : The 'Other Tags' now work as OR filters.
If a toggle switch would be added, so that these filters would work as AND filters ... that would be very nice :)

The reason we use the OR operator for the Other Tags filter is because it seemed more useful to be able to follow multiple similar types with one search. Because a name can belong to multiple tags, it does make sense to have an option for the AND operator, and it may be possible to add in the future if there is enough demand for it.
 
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Hi, Let's keep it short.
We know that LLLL.com's are selling pretty well here on Namepros. But, what about 4 letter domains with other extensions like .NET, ORG, CO, INFO...?

Do they have some value? Are they selling well too here?
 
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There are a few suspicious sales from today at Shortnames. All Godaddy Auctions, all registered to the same owner, all registered at Enom. The "sale" prices are well below the current floor for these LLLL names. They are not expired auctions. Also, the names are listed elsewhere with a $10,000+ Buy Now price.

afnp.com
hpeb.com
cfho.com
 
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I was bidding on these but had a call and forgot to return before the end
 
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There are a few suspicious sales from today at Shortnames. All Godaddy Auctions, all registered to the same owner, all registered at Enom. The "sale" prices are well below the current floor for these LLLL names. They are not expired auctions. Also, the names are listed elsewhere with a $10,000+ Buy Now price.

afnp.com
hpeb.com
cfho.com

The ending prices on these 3 auctions is correct, and they all appear to have been 7 day Public Auctions (not Expired Auctions) as you mentioned. They ended with 22 bids on afnp.com and 17 on each of the others. For some reason Public Auctions seem to often close at lower prices than similar Expired Auctions, I'm not exactly sure of the reason behind that. Perhaps the fact all 3 ended at the same time may have just happened to be a time when less buyers were actively bidding.

If the whois doesn't update on them within a reasonable time and it looks like no sales actually took place, they will be removed from the site.

Also interesting, it appears the seller purchased them all on Namejet recently for $515 each (http://shortnames.com/llll/sales#2hpebBafnpBcfhoAAA), so these sales would be for a pretty significant loss.
 
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