RareGirl.com -- Non-payer

That sucks!

Similar situations happen every single day on GoDaddy.
Nothing you can do if the buyer don't want to go forward and honor his offer.

Does it mean that Godaddy do not block non payers ? I had similar situations , but it was on Flippa ...

Seems like a complete waste of time to me. It does happen every day on GoDaddy, both ways. I've paid and locked up money only to have the name never transferred and then I spend a couple hours of time keeping on top of GoDaddy to give me the money back. And on the other hand, accepted terms that never get payments.

The only possible reason it matters is if you can find out who it is and then actually link them to a "notable" account here at NP. Otherwise, you're totally blowing time and money on something that is just a matter a "principle" kind of thing.

Either way, it sucks, and I wish you the best of luck with it. Just don't waste your own resources on a moron for no reason.

21x20 said:

Seems like a complete waste of time to me. It does happen every day on GoDaddy, both ways. I've paid and locked up money only to have the name never transferred and then I spend a couple hours of time keeping on top of GoDaddy to give me the money back. And on the other hand, accepted terms that never get payments.

The only possible reason it matters is if you can find out who it is and then actually link them to a "notable" account here at NP. Otherwise, you're totally blowing time and money on something that is just a matter a "principle" kind of thing.

Either way, it sucks, and I wish you the best of luck with it. Just don't waste your own resources on a moron for no reason.

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This happens because our industry allows it.

Then domainers just roll over and accept it; there are no real consequences for unethical behavior, perhaps a fine of a few bucks by the sales platforms.

So the moral lightweights just keep doing the same thing over and over because buyers and sellers throw up their hands, and say, "But what can we do?"

Don't worry -- life goes on -- this specific sale is not a game changer for me.

It's just irksome...

Godaddy should at least give details like sedo. An agreement is made and you can see the buyers or sellers info. This is basic transparency that this industry lacks in most cases!

Ms Domainer said:

This happens because our industry allows it.

Then domainers just roll over and accept it; there are no real consequences for unethical behavior, perhaps a fine of a few bucks by the sales platforms.

So the moral lightweights just keep doing the same thing over and over because buyers and sellers throw up their hands, and say, "But what can we do?"

Don't worry -- life goes on -- this specific sale is not a game changer for me.

It's just irksome...

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Exactly -- irksome. But that's all it is. You weren't injured. You may have spent some time considering the offer and the value of it before clicking accept, but so far, that time is all you're out in this situation. Unless you chase the white rabbit down the hole, then you're out whatever legal fees you spend and the additional time. We both know very little is likely to come from that. (Work smarter, not harder. All the same, Alice *did* actually have quite an adventure following that little hare.)

Past that, you're picking on the industry... People are rude and inconsiderate in plenty of places in life. On the roads, at the grocery store, in restaurants and on and on. My wife and I do direct sales product (cause it's cool and we're building a nifty little biz) and our company contract says new sellers can change their mind. And that does happen, even in our physical world -- people chose to buy something or get involved and they change their mind.

Sure, domaining is a virtual environment where people buy and sell digital assets relatively anonymously. Nature of the beast, it's going to have a bigger share of this kind of thing. We're trading air -- perhaps even just 0's and 1's. Even compared to real estate which is a more local thing where people are more apt to do business in person with actual pens and tangible ink.

Again, just my humble opinion, but spending resources on something like this to prove some sort of point to someone just doesn't make dollars, cents or sense.

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The amount is large enough that I may consider legal action, at least to the extent that I may contact a lawyer to send a letter to Go Daddy to release the person's details.

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You have no damages and they won't release that information to you. Spend the energy and time if it makes you feel better, but your expectations of what will happen are not realistic, IMO.

Might be wasting money on a lawyer. Read into the fine print on GD and see if there is some wiggle room for the buyer to back out.

You still really are jumping the gun if the still have a couple days to "Pay up"
You seem pretty mad that they didn't pay immediately. After the 2nd then get mad. Until then read up.

Back to round two on a non payer are you?

Like round one of your fight did not get you the money.

Now you want to fight another round with another person?

Good luck!

brindle123 said:

Might be wasting money on a lawyer. Read into the fine print on GD and see if there is some wiggle room for the buyer to back out.

You still really are jumping the gun if the still have a couple days to "Pay up"
You seem pretty mad that they didn't pay immediately. After the 2nd then get mad. Until then read up.

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It's been almost a month, so I'm hardly "jumping the gun," at least by putting a notice on here about it.

Perhaps the buyer will see this; after 2/2, Go Daddy will automatically cancel the sale, so I'm actually giving the buyer a chance to pay up.

At this point, all I really want to know who the person is, and GD has already told me that I would need a lawyer for that.

Yes, I like Sedo's system much better, although I have been fortunate on Sedo.

Another advertisement of qotto.com.

Hope you sell it soon for what you wish and everybody here is relaxed.

Given the opportunity and the information of non payers I never miss the chance to name and shame.

Our unregulated industry suffers from enough abuses as it is.

Sorry I missed the date at the top or was thinking a different date for some reason.

Still a lawyer would be a waste hate to say.
I've been burned on Godaddy and Sedo. Actually more on Sedo.

Good luck and I hope they do come through for you .

21x20 said:

I've paid and locked up money only to have the name never transferred and then I spend a couple hours of time keeping on top of GoDaddy to give me the money back.

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same happend to me twice

took me "several weeks" and "hundereds of calls" to get my money back

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"feels like"

21x20 said:

Seems like a complete waste of time to me. It does happen every day on GoDaddy, both ways. I've paid and locked up money only to have the name never transferred and then I spend a couple hours of time keeping on top of GoDaddy to give me the money back. And on the other hand, accepted terms that never get payments.

The only possible reason it matters is if you can find out who it is and then actually link them to a "notable" account here at NP. Otherwise, you're totally blowing time and money on something that is just a matter a "principle" kind of thing.

Either way, it sucks, and I wish you the best of luck with it. Just don't waste your own resources on a moron for no reason.

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I think it comes down to the need for a good escrow service, and they do not seem to have such a service. Sedo, escrow.com, escrow.domains, Etc., those are decent services that can stop this from happening. I know of a guy that "sold" a domain, and never transferred it. If I am not mistaken, that he got the money, and the domain still.

Another that had no reserve, and the name sold at auction for below what he thought it was worth, so he wanted to pull out of selling it, but in the end, he did sell it when he got desperate enough. That guy also owes me money, but I am not expecting it at this point. That one that sold with the no reserve, I would have loved to have it, but another domainer now has it.

brindle123 said:

Sorry I missed the date at the top or was thinking a different date for some reason.

Still a lawyer would be a waste hate to say.
I've been burned on Godaddy and Sedo. Actually more on Sedo.

Good luck and I hope they do come through for you .

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If I am not mistaken, and it has been a few years since I dealt with Sedo on a transaction, they have the seller push them the domain, and then release the funds and domain to the parties. Currently I have a domain on escrow with escrow.domains.

I can't stop laughing honestly. That's sucks... O baby, that feeling when you think say you don hammer! LMFAO.

Just take heart and guide it next time.

I had two offers I accepted in last 30 days, mid xx,xxx and people backed out. One escrow started and they signed an agreement. Its just part of business. If you know you got great names its easy to move on. If you tried to sell junk overpriced then u need lawyers to help you.

ksusha64 said:

I had two offers I accepted in last 30 days, mid xx,xxx and people backed out. One escrow started and they signed an agreement. Its just part of business. If you know you got great names its easy to move on. If you tried to sell junk overpriced then u need lawyers to help you.

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RareGirl is actually a nice brandable... but that's what it is, a brandable which has an uncertain destiny, which this post just revealed.

Mr. Deleted said:

I think it comes down to the need for a good escrow service, and they do not seem to have such a service. Sedo, escrow.com, escrow.domains, Etc., those are decent services that can stop this from happening. I know of a guy that "sold" a domain, and never transferred it. .

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its not about their escrow lacking
it was the domain that I bought at "buy now"
simply didn't belong to the seller

As we wish for better regulations and transparency, how many would like to see free-look period (like in insurance) and refunds as a norm in future for our industry?

Also, as we hope for buyers making impulsive buys, how many of us are comfortable knowing buyers regretting their purchases?

Mr. Deleted said:

If I am not mistaken, and it has been a few years since I dealt with Sedo on a transaction, they have the seller push them the domain, and then release the funds and domain to the parties. Currently I have a domain on escrow with escrow.domains.

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I think with sedo the buyer just backed out of the deal. I didn't get taken for the domain. Either way it sucks to have it happen and it locks the domain up on there until you figure out the sale won't go thru.

One thing that makes me more upset is when Godaddy sells a domain that can be renewed. I'm sure they have the right, but it's a waste of time.

I win a bid then the person renews it who actually does own the domain(not Godaddy who is selling it as expired). This seems to be shady on GD's part and sometimes the owner.

Tasting sales interest??

frank-germany said:

its not about their escrow lacking
it was the domain that I bought at "buy now"
simply didn't belong to the seller

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That sucks too. Did you get the funds back? Sometimes the names are still listed even after the names are dropped and re-registered, or sold.