All Domainers are Cybersquatters According to TheHill.com

lets be truthful, :hehe: many of us are

I guess anyone who buys anything and resells for a profit is a squatter. I guess a car dealer is a squatter, real estate agent a squatter, art dealer a squatter.

Brad

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PACs and Lobbyists = Politician Squatters .... I guess we could coin the Phrase PoliSquatter

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jealousy is normal, they missed the boat, anyone doing good or at the top of anything will be a target or surrounded by haters, let them keep drinking the hateorade while we keep moving forward , the shift of media to online formats will only be increasing so I expect dumb asses writing articles on topics they don't understand will only increase.

It is rather strange that they are making a bigger deal out of someone registering the domain name, than the security breach itself. I think this case is a non issue frankly.

They should be thank full the domain name, SecretServiceShootsSalahis.com was not registered!

Maybe they will pass a Bailout for us called Squaters.....perhaps we can call it the something like: Squaters Loyalty Bailout and then tack on 300 other projects and push it through as quick as possible so no one knows what was actually passed.

E.g. This BS Health care Bill etc

well my grandma also thinks what I do isn't "honorable", because she generally doesn't like people earning money by buying stuff cheaper and selling for more, that doesn't make me feel bad, as do not such journalist views...

SpareDomains said:

jealousy is normal, they missed the boat, anyone doing good or at the top of anything will be a target or surrounded by haters, let them keep drinking the hateorade while we keep moving forward , the shift of media to online formats will only be increasing so I expect dumb asses writing articles on topics they don't understand will only increase.

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You're right let this dude keep drinking his HATEORADE! He miss the boat. PLAYA HATA!

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Don't hate the playa hate the game!

MrSpartan said:

"cyber-squatting,” the practice of buying a domain name that someone else may want and selling it back to them at a higher price.

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:zzz:

oil rights, mineral rights, water rights are squatters, how many foreign companies are in countries around the world sitting on rights to natural resources that the people of that country own? Where does it end

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mitch007 said:

lets be truthful, :hehe: many of us are

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maybe you need to rethink how you register domains, its a few that give us all a bad name.

ssamriga said:

well my grandma also thinks what I do isn't "honorable", because she generally doesn't like people earning money by buying stuff cheaper and selling for more

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Isn't "buy low, sell high" the universal tenet for any kind of business? I'm not sure how one could make a living doing it any other way.

well who are the fat banks' trading desks then?

Ronald Regging said:

Isn't "buy low, sell high" the universal tenet for any kind of business? I'm not sure how one could make a living doing it any other way.

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LOL, I was thinking the same thing. It's what every business in every industry does and if a company doesn't opperate that way they go bankrupt and close or become a charity.

Domainers have an image problem that can only be overcome by educating the general public.

Domainers will have to do it, no-one else will do it for us, they have no incentive to do so.

The media is not helping and it is not in their intrest to do so. Stories about a "sleezy cyber squatter" sell far more copies than "A domainer did a good thing" stories. Let's face the truth, even all of us would read the firsts story first...

Do domainers have an association/trade group/organizations of some sort? If yes, educating the public should be on their agenda...

Edit: Part of the education should also include educating new domainers about trademarks etc. Registrars have no incentive to do so. They make damn good money from all of the TM violaitions.

MrSpartan said:

"cyber-squatting,” the practice of buying a domain name that someone else may want and selling it back to them at a higher price.

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So then a business owner who buys a domain for their business and either due to unforeseen circumstances needs to resell it OR perhaps they get an offer they couldn't refuse...is a cybersquatter by this definition? Huh?

I swear, give anyone a website, newspaper, microphone, Twitter account, or whatever medium to broadcast their message to whomever and all of a sudden they're an "expert" these days. A bunch of sheep will read that and believe it and further perpetuate the mainstream bias against the domain industry. I'm kind of curious how real estate moguls got past the "landsquatter" status...I still hear people complain about people that buy up all properties in such n such area, but rarely ever anymore, and a lot of people that do it are championed. Why is the domain industry frowned upon still considering that?

I'm beginning to believe that people are more on Tiger and his drama lately not because of what he did wrong, but because they're taking the opportunity to hate on him for making a billion dollars from "playing a game" and they themselves can't (or more like haven't bothered to try). This attitude seems to be everywhere, and the truth of the matter is there is no easy money except for people lucky enough to have rich relatives who share the wealth...even those of us in this industry that don't have to work as hard to make a lot now, we sure as heck had to work hard to get to that position. People working hard making very little are doing the wrong work, plain and simple, and rather than figure out what they could be doing differently, hating on others that have it figured out takes less effort and thought.

NameTrader.com said:

So then a business owner who buys a domain for their business and either due to unforeseen circumstances needs to resell it OR perhaps they get an offer they couldn't refuse...is a cybersquatter by this definition? Huh?

I swear, give anyone a website, newspaper, microphone, Twitter account, or whatever medium to broadcast their message to whomever and all of a sudden they're an "expert" these days. A bunch of sheep will read that and believe it and further perpetuate the mainstream bias against the domain industry. I'm kind of curious how real estate moguls got past the "landsquatter" status...I still hear people complain about people that buy up all properties in such n such area, but rarely ever anymore, and a lot of people that do it are championed. Why is the domain industry frowned upon still considering that?

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I think that the answer is to somehow get the word out to the public about what most domainers do and what ethical domaining is. Domainers (and hopefully also the businesses domainers directly support) will have to do this, no-one else has the incetive to do so. Do we have a trade-group or something similar the represents us?

Heh, considering what a cheese-ball Bob Parsons APPEARS to be (that may be completely unfair, as I have never met him or spoken to him) he would make one heck of a convenient target for some kind of a congressional panel, so domainers may even need lobbyists sooner or later (as much as I dislike that industry).

It would also help to attempt to somehow educate the public on the basics of intellectual property. I have encountered a person who thought that someone who does not live in, or may not have even visited Atlanta, for example, has "no business" registering a name like AtlantaHotels//com.

The clear and very common TM violations will also have to be somehow curbed. Seems like at least on ebay a noticeable number of the names for sale are TM violations. I wonder what percentage of all new regs are TM violations? Hopefully small in % terms... But it appers to be a safe bet to says that it is still numerically signifficant.

NameTrader.com said:

I'm beginning to believe that people are more on Tiger and his drama lately not because of what he did wrong, but because they're taking the opportunity to hate on him for making a billion dollars from "playing a game" and they themselves can't (or more like haven't bothered to try). This attitude seems to be everywhere, and the truth of the matter is there is no easy money except for people lucky enough to have rich relatives who share the wealth...even those of us in this industry that don't have to work as hard to make a lot now, we sure as heck had to work hard to get to that position. People working hard making very little are doing the wrong work, plain and simple, and rather than figure out what they could be doing differently, hating on others that have it figured out takes less effort and thought.

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Yep, jealousy is probably a big factor. The general public seems to think that domainers register some name that doesn't "belong" to them and then sell it for hundreds of thousands. That percepion is frequently the expectation or at least the dream of new domainers also. The pubic doesn't realize that for those who make money it's usually many modesl size sales adding up.

Car lot buys some cars. Sits on them. Advertises them and hopes someone will come along who can "use" one. None of them are sold first. Secondly they all take precious resourses to make. Kind of a gamble, but thats the way it is done.

if you look at that angle or point of view or even use that term so are the land investors who sit on their lot and wait for it to sell at higher price are squatters.

bah.. whatever it is thats their problem for being ignorant in the age of information.

goodkarmaco said:

Car lot buys some cars. Sits on them. Advertises them and hopes someone will come along who can "use" one. None of them are sold first. Secondly they all take precious resourses to make. Kind of a gamble, but thats the way it is done.

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dotker said:

bah.. whatever it is thats their problem for being ignorant in the age of information.

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The problem is that the "information" most easily available to the general public is usually terribly one sided.

Edit: And in reality it isn't "their problem" at all because when a potential end user with a false negative impression of domainers recieves your email or phonecall and ignores them because he thinks that you are a cyber squatting criminal, it is very much YOUR problem, they couldn't care less.

MrSpartan said:

Here is the definition of cybersqatting they provide...
"cyber-squatting,” the practice of buying a domain name that someone else may want and selling it back to them at a higher price.

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Must be a slow news day - what's the difference if I replace the word domain with coins, cars, houses, condos, etc etc etc... I don't hear the "journalist" <-- and I use the term loosely, trying to get people worked up about these other businesses...

Had they a decent fact checking department, they would have used the term domain investor - but that probably wouldn't sell newspapers. I thought "cyber squatting" was the practice of buying a TRADEMARKED domain name...blah blah blah.

As my old friend Ronman used to say... MORONS.