.mobi .Biz vs .Mobi?

Danto · Nov 28, 2009

Is .biz a worse extension than .mobi
I have .biz too! - which extension should I drop?

Thanks

Danto

nicedomains · Nov 28, 2009

i like biz better

jmcc · Nov 29, 2009

Numerically, .biz is a fourth choice TLD for most registrants. The initial registrations were largely brand protection registrations by companies who owned the .com or ccTLD variant. Now that kind of registration volume has declined dramatically in recent years.

As for .mobi, it has a lot of growing to do yet. A significant number of the domains registered in .mobi are still parked on Godaddy's parking page.

Regards...jmcc

Carlton · Nov 29, 2009

Those are two very different extensions (apples and oranges). Without knowing the domain name itself and how it can be used, it's difficult to render a meaningful opinion.

John Baron · Nov 29, 2009

drop both of them and go get yourself a nice .com :p

dotker · Nov 29, 2009

liror said:
drop both of them and go get yourself a nice .com :p

lol same here!

scandiman · Nov 29, 2009

Carlton said:
Those are two very different extensions (apples and oranges). Without knowing the domain name itself and how it can be used, it's difficult to render a meaningful opinion.

And judging from your sig you know a thing or two about both extensions.

noonoo1 · Nov 29, 2009

Danto said:
Is .biz a worse extension than .mobi
I have .biz too! - which extension should I drop?

Thanks

Danto

I think you can evaluate .biz and .mobi by looking at how many of the big companies use these tlds.

I would say .mobi is used far more.

dotker · Nov 29, 2009

I think you can evaluate .biz and .mobi by looking at how many of the big companies use these tlds.

I would say .mobi is used far more.

Number of indexed domains by google as of today:

.com 2,880,000,000
.mobi 1,530,000
.biz 6,180,000

jmcc · Nov 29, 2009

dotker said:
Number of indexed domains by google as of today:

.com 2,880,000,000
.mobi 1,530,000
.biz 6,180,000

Those are the numbers of indexed webpages rather than domains.

Regards...jmcc

FanCube · Nov 29, 2009

.biz has never really taken off for serious websites. I mostly see .biz domains used by small businesses that does not really relay on the Internet but needs a domain name for a "business card" website containing basic contact information etc. and an e-mail address. Often small businesses chose .biz because it is available and because they are not prepared to pay for a similar .com

.mobi is going slow but could grow. For example google.mobi and foxnews.mobi are examples of large organizations using .mobi domains.

.biz is more or less just a failed "new" .com One could call it a "poor man's" .com

.mobi is an extension for a new type of sites - mobile sites. Just like .org is recorgnized and used for non-profit sites, it does make sense if .mobi will be the equivalent for mobile sites.

I just never understood why the TLD for mobile devices was given four characters... Why not .mob or simply .m?

dotker · Nov 30, 2009

jmcc said:
Those are the numbers of indexed webpages rather than domains.

Regards...jmcc

yes im just posting which is mostly used not mostly squatted domain extension. :P

FanCube said:
I just never understood why the TLD for mobile devices was given four characters...

It simply looks horrible for me why type in longer word for a mobile phone? some sites simply use m. as their subdomain which is more practical. now i wonder who ever thought of the 4 letter & what were they thingking.

concept for a mobile extension is not that bad but not great either.

noy.com · Nov 30, 2009

The reason why it is not .mob is the fact that MOB in English means mafia. Can you imagine a serious website called casino.mob or money.mob? )))

And there are no real gtlds with less than 3 characters. Hence .mobi

.biz is good only with premium 1-worders for now. I bought, e.g., Press.Biz

The fact that it means the same as .com really hurts it. (commercial vs. business is like mobile and cellular)

.mobi has higher potential, imo

John Baron · Nov 30, 2009

noy.com said:
The reason why it is not .mob is the fact that MOB in English means mafia. Can you imagine a serious website called casino.mob or money.mob? )))

And there are no real gtlds with less than 3 characters. Hence .mobi

.biz is good only with premium 1-worders for now. I bo
ught, e.g., Press.Biz

The fact that it means the same as .com really hurts it. (commercial vs. business is like mobile and cellular)

.mobi has higher potential, imo

good point about the mafia thing

dotker · Nov 30, 2009

err they should have just used mb or something smaller, since its mobile..it should be smaller.

scandiman · Nov 30, 2009

dotker said:
err they should have just used mb or something smaller, since its mobile..it should be smaller.

Oh brother, is this silly debate still roaming the threads of NP? And to think some people wonder why this section is a ghost town.

BitcoinDK · Nov 30, 2009

It depends on the domain name and who your targets are.

Looking at Google Trends, it seems both are decending in search volume:
Google Trends: .biz, .mobi

-REECE- · Nov 30, 2009

Completely agree.

I never understood the choice of 4 letters for a mobile extension either and I do think they would have been better off going with something shorter. If memory serves me correctly, ICANN had no interest in allowing 1 letter extensions and that is presumably the reason .m wasn't chosen.

Honestly, I think the best decision would have been to try and reach some sort of agreement with the .mo registry like VeriSign/.tv.

.biz reminds me of .cc -- like you said, it seems more or less like an extension which failed to capitalize on the success of .com, whereas other extensions such as ccTLDs or .org might be used as a cost-effective alternative to .com, however they don't come across as that to non-domainers (if used appropriately).

FanCube said:
.biz has never really taken off for serious websites. I mostly see .biz domains used by small businesses that does not really relay on the Internet but needs a domain name for a "business card" website containing basic contact information etc. and an e-mail address. Often small businesses chose .biz because it is available and because they are not prepared to pay for a similar .com

.mobi is going slow but could grow. For example google.mobi and foxnews.mobi are examples of large organizations using .mobi domains.

.biz is more or less just a failed "new" .com One could call it a "poor man's" .com

.mobi is an extension for a new type of sites - mobile sites. Just like .org is recorgnized and used for non-profit sites, it does make sense if .mobi will be the equivalent for mobile sites.

I just never understood why the TLD for mobile devices was given four characters... Why not .mob or simply .m?

shockie · Nov 30, 2009

if you had to pick, then go with the .biz.

if you want a mobile site in the future you can always just use m.domain.biz, which would do much better than a .mobi - even for mobile browsing and development.

freeflow · Nov 30, 2009

shockie said:
if you want a mobile site in the future you can always just use m.domain.biz, which would do much better than a .mobi - even for mobile browsing and development.

Well m.domain.biz is even longer than domain.mobi by one Character (count how many times you have to click to get to the "." or "/" on some phones) and IMO it doesn't look as good as the mobi especially for promotion.

shockie · Dec 1, 2009

freeflow said:
Well m.domain.biz is even longer than domain.mobi by one Character (count how many times you have to click to get to the "." or "/" on some phones) and IMO it doesn't look as good as the mobi especially for promotion.

learn to quote the right person regarding size.

development-wise (which is what my reply was about), using a developed .biz with a m. subdomain is better.

scandiman · Dec 1, 2009

shockie said:
if you want a mobile site in the future you can always just use m.domain.biz, which would do much better than a .mobi - even for mobile browsing and development.

Please provide a shred of evidence beyond your opinion.

shockie · Dec 1, 2009

scandiman said:
Please provide a shred of evidence beyond your opinion.

thanks for asking.

Google and MSN Loving Subdomains & SEO | Search Engine Journal

next... :blink:

scandiman · Dec 1, 2009

shockie said:
thanks for asking.

Google and MSN Loving Subdomains & SEO | Search Engine Journal

next... :blink:

That's an article from '07 discussing the possible merits of subdomains. No mention of biz or mobi, nor is it saying that subdomains are better than second-level domains. So keep hunting for something else to support your claims.

shockie · Dec 1, 2009

scandiman said:
That's an article from '07 discussing the possible merits of subdomains. No mention of biz or mobi, nor is it saying that subdomains are better than second-level domains. So keep hunting for something else to support your claims.

this article from 2007 is still more recent than any article suggesting otherwise (none, lol). it also makes sense in other ways too, although if you can't see how this article relates then we probably shouldn't even go there... yet.

m. would be the subdomain.

the discussion is about m.domainwithequity.ext > newuntrusteddomain.mobi.

subdomains pass equity while newuntrusteddomain.mobi has none.

if you'd like i can create a new thread in the .mobi forum that outlines this fact better. i would've thought that the dots could be connected but i guess not...? does anyone else see the connection...? :blink:

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