New gTLD Domain Extensions!

I'm thinking I might buy kxx.guru

Not mine ...

Street.Photography sold for $2800

My .com-related stock ain't droppin'; seems to be as strong as ever. Haven't looked too closely, though.

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The argument that the gTLDs are going to "kill" .com is just plain silly and aren't worth refuting.

I have noticed that there has been a sudden silence regarding the new gTLDs, and the numbers aren't (so far) encouraging.

I have some (slight) skin in this, so it's not good news.

But it is early days.

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Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.

Albert Einstein

I do not understand why this is even a topic. .Biz info, xxx etc for the most part where big flops (not for the registrars but for the joe schmore fantasy chaser). Will there be impressive sales? Sure! but if you believe you will be the one who will be a winner, meaning you will fall into the 0.000000001% category, I suggest you play lotto instead, the return is way way bigger.

Alternatively, invest some money and create your own few extensions (.sheep .junkie .giantfool) and allow the endless number of sheep to buy pipe dreams off you.

it is impossible for other generic TLD extension to kill .COM as it is one of the oldest and and by far the most popular extension which everyone (old and young) are using to look for the sites they want. Next to .COM is .NET which is yards away from the popularity of .COM so even if .com is actually for companies who want to establish their online presence people get the notion that it can be and should be used by everyone.

It is impossible to kill the .COM for now
what if there is a new GTLD of a . single letter for example .c or .a
There would be a huge chance that they might give it competition
But then again .com has an established value and an aged factor on it's side
All speculation for now

I've wasted money on .BZ .CM and a couple of other extensions like this. I think people should buy them to protect their brand. But to resell or to create a money making website is maybe not going to happen. Like .IO... I've only been to 1 .IO website. It was forecast.io.

AEProgram said:

Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.

Albert Einstein

I do not understand why this is even a topic. .Biz info, xxx etc for the most part where big flops (not for the registrars but for the joe schmore fantasy chaser). Will there be impressive sales? Sure! but if you believe you will be the one who will be a winner, meaning you will fall into the 0.000000001% category, I suggest you play lotto instead, the return is way way bigger.

Alternatively, invest some money and create your own few extensions (.sheep .junkie .giantfool) and allow the endless number of sheep to buy pipe dreams off you.

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.giantfool :lol:
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I must agree with most posts regarding the strength of The Almighty .COM thus far. :tu:
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I don't see any new gTLD's as big websites so far...

Ms Domainer said:

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I have noticed that there has been a sudden silence regarding the new gTLDs, and the numbers aren't (so far) encouraging.

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I think these new gTLDs would have been more popular if the roll out was marketed better. All the new .whatever holders should have pooled $$$ for a big marketing campaign.

Domainers and TM holders are snagging early gems that's about it.

I think it's way too early to compare apples and oranges, however the difference between these new names and previous attempts is possibly the sheer volume and the big money behind some of the players. I tend to think especially companies like .canon and .sony will pay big bucks to get their extension noticed. I also think law of averages suggests there will be noticeable development over the coming years. I have previously stated it may take a generation but it will happen and when all those damn kids get their teeth into their favourite .apps website they will soon embrace the whole idea. I have always said 'I would mind owning Free.Music' ….. Will .com go away , not likely, we see ads for .hotels and the like here in australia and that is great exposure for the extension. Remember 'Content is king' If a new site has good content it may rise up quickly through the ranks. One thing is that these sure are interesting times

I think it's a matter of common sense here.

First of all this is not the first time that new tlds are introduced and so far nothing affected negatively the .com. ( the opposite is true )

Second : domainers ( and big companies ) are buying them: the first ones hoping in a big sale to while the second ones to protect their brands.

Third : when all of them will be released it will be such a mess that Google will come to chop some heads.

No one seems to think or worry about what end users will do and this is one of the main problem domainers have and always had as the majority selects names with " domainer " filters rather than " end user " ones. My point is that a small medium company that needs its own name will search for the light in this foggy mess : the lights are .com and the country tld ( according to the market they want to target ) If I had a business I would definitely spend 10 for a com than 1 for a .whatthehell as I would like to be sure my name will rank, will be easily understood and searched by my customers and will be as unique as possible.
I am also so so so curious to see how all the .whatever will rank on Google.

These new .wathevers are a bad xerox of domain hacks which have never been a good move and investment as , again, they were bought by domainers for domainers. Even delicious had to change its name!

Will they be interesting sales? YES Will some companies buy them? YES Will we see a 7 figure sale? MAYBE Will this increase the value of .coms ? ABSOLUTELY YES!

They are simply a money machine for registrars who charge xxx for a .mybehind. Fine...but not with mine!

Maybe in the future when a many of them will be" cleared out " and just a few will be commonly accepted then I will think about them but not now.

SDX said:

.giantfool :lol:
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I must agree with most posts regarding the strength of The Almighty .COM thus far. :tu:
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I don't see any new gTLD's as big websites so far...

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An interestingly balanced () perspective on objectively comparing something that has been out for 20+ years and used by millions, against something 3-4 weeks old, and just barely even getting started. May as well compare the vitality and strength of a newborn to that of a prime conditioned pro football player. Guess it's all a perspective how things are measured for personal pov justification.

...just sayin'.

Well you can measure some things. I think .co had a few hundred thousand first week? A lot of these have 1% - 2% of that, mainly because they're specific/niche. There is no taking off in the future, good names are pretty much gone first day or two.

I look at .name that had 75 new regs yesterday, that was more than:

.bike
.clothing
.singles
.ventures
.graphics
.plumbing
.lighting
.holdings
.camera
.construction
.kitchen

so .name is beating more than half of the new ones in new regs.

They're pretty much dead already. The registration numbers suck so bad, there are actually people out there trying to add them together as if they're one extension.

.web will be the big winner since it's the most generic, should get more numbers than .co pretty easily which I think is at 1.6 million

i think development is the key, the more development the more recognition

JB Lions said:

Well you can measure some things. I think .co had a few hundred thousand first week? A lot of these have 1% - 2% of that, mainly because they're specific/niche.

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Exactly, they're niche specific. And they cost from $12k down to get the better names at first, so compared to $27ea. first come reggin, not really a fair bench mark to compare 'first week regs' to.

Curious why domainers think there has to be mass regs for an extension to be successful? These new extensions are 'specific and 'niche' oriented, and don't need to be used be all, or by a majority of users. With 'thousands' coming, these new extensions are opening a whole new ball game in domaining, and the domainer expectations of 'the way it's always been done', is no longer in play in regards to them and their need of survival, as has been accepted 'to be' in the eyes of domainers. These are built for endusers and when the novelty of the domainer 'grab what we can first' gets just too expensive, and the sales don't happen as they have, the tide will turn to a more passive of a domain name roll out as time goes on. imo. There'll still be speculating and selling, but for only the primo names and not for the prices of past.

And yes, .com will always still be the #1 extension, but what that has to do with the success of these extensions, is naught.

I once read that if you can think of a new way of advertising you make a heap, surely a marketing person can see the potential in these niche specific names, i think it will be 'baby steps' for a long time though

"Curious why domainers think there has to be mass regs for an extension to be successful?"

Went thru this already with mjnels. If I asked you which are the best extensions in order, it would probably be the ones with the most regs usually. Or if I asked which ones are getting the biggest sales, same thing. More regs means higher chance of development, the greater chance the public becomes familiar with them, which can only help the price.

"These are built for endusers"

When you posted that, did you post that with a straight face? These are built for domainers to buy to make the registries/registrars money. If they really wanted them for endusers there are steps they could take to make sure they got into an enduser's hands. General availability isn't one of them. Endusers aren't going to see any good keywords with these extensions, some domainer will have it parked asking too much.

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I love gems, and diamonds are nice

But I also adore champagne

Put them together and ....

Voila!

Champagne.diamonds!

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Ms Domainer said:

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I love gems, and diamonds are nice

But I also adore champagne

Put them together and ....

Voila!

Champagne.diamonds!

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You can get that now for reg fee in .us, info, .co etc

JB Lions said:

You can get that now for reg fee in .us, info, .co etc

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Yes, I know.

I like the term as a standalone.

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JB Lions said:

Went thru this already with mjnels. If I asked you which are the best extensions in order, it would probably be the ones with the most regs usually. Or if I asked which ones are getting the biggest sales, same thing. More regs means higher chance of development, the greater chance the public becomes familiar with them, which can only help the price..

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Exactly the problem. Domainers only are seeing these extensions thru their "How much can we sell them for?", business as usual eyes. Which is fine from a domainer pov. But, again, that is not the intent for releasing them! It's basically doing with domains what was intended originally, which is .com is for commercial, .net for network, .org for organization, etc. but that intent never was followed thru on and basically went out the window. If one uses .equipment as in casino.equipment, pretty good bet there won't be a gambling site on it. But as for Casino.org, are we actually expecting to find an 'organization of casinos'? The shift is now on the tld, not on the sld for content expectation.

JB Lions said:

"These are built for endusers"

When you posted that, did you post that with a straight face?

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Yup. See above.

JB Lions said:

These are built for domainers to buy to make the registries/registrars money. Endusers aren't going to see any good keywords with these extensions, some domainer will have it parked asking too much.

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A few years of $40 to $250+ a year, especially with multiple domain regs, will cut that program out quickly.

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Ms Domainer said:

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I love gems, and diamonds are nice

But I also adore champagne

Put them together and ....

Voila!

Champagne.diamonds!

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Nice one. (Berkins got Yellow.)

I'll scratch that off my note pad now.

"But, again, that is not the intent for releasing them!"

We disagree on that. It's for domainers. Like I said, if they wanted endusers to have them, they can take steps so that happens. These already low numbers would be even lower without domainers.

"The shift is now on the tld, not on the sld for content expectation. "

It's actually on both sides with these new extensions, .com being neutral, just one side.

"A few years of $40 to $250+ a year, especially with multiple domain regs, will cut that program out quickly."

With those prices in mind, they can just get a .com and pay $8 a year renewal. Long term, it'll be a cheaper and on an extension people are going to be familiar with. Also, you have to take into account marketing dollars. You have to get people to remember 2 sides of the . now. .com is very easy, so ingrained that with logos, they don't even need to put the extension. Again, when you look at it long term, .com would be cheaper with less confusion, basically it just makes more sense.

I have had a few on the 'wishlist' but will not pay $249 a year for the sake of it, i am only interested in participating within my budget and will assess my .coms to see how much room i have, am i the only one who would want free.music ??